Bernie Sanders has Hillary Clinton right where he wants her

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2016/03/28/why-wont-sanders-quit-the-race-because-hes-winning/

Bernie Sanders has Hillary Clinton right where he wants her

The patter of establishment calls for Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) to end his campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination has built into a hailstorm.

“Bye, bye, Bernie,” the Washington Post editorialized prematurely, echoing numerous talking heads. Politico reports Democratic pols are quietly urging him to pack it in. Even President Barack Obama suggested to deep-pocket donors that it’s time to fold in behind former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. (They already have, Mr. President, they already have).

Some of this is sowed by the Clinton campaign. But most is simple foolishness. It would be inconceivable for Sanders to stop now.

After all, he still has a chance to win the nomination. Sanders just swept through the West, winning five of six contests by stunning margins. In addition, he isn’t just a candidate — he’s a cause. Sanders seeks to build a movement that can make the political revolution needed to transform the country, not simply win the White House. That means a political movement powerful enough to both get big money out of politics and pass Sanders’ agenda. His supporters want and expect him to drive that effort right through the Democratic National Convention and beyond.

[Tanuki]

1. Assuming he wants her 2.5 million popular votes ahead of him.....

[redstatebluegirl]

2. Very good!

[RobertEarl]

13. It's funny, but not good

Funny that she is not a winner. So many, for months now, have been so wrong about Bernie, that we Berners just have to laugh at them. Hell, Bernie was supposed to be done on super Tuesday and before that was never going to win anything or ever raise any money.

Frankly, it is shameful to see what are supposedly democrats acting the way they do. It's like they just don't get what democracy actually means.

[RiverLover]

32. +1 /nt

[bullimiami]

3. And 230 delegates.

People are silly.

Just be realistic. He "could" pull it out, just not very likely.
No reason to go all Baghdad Bob on us.

[RobertEarl]

14. He's already won a lot

And he probably will take almost all the super delegates besides evening up in the pledged delegates in the next two months.

Yall have been selling Bernie short for so long that none of us take you H people seriously.

[Cobalt Violet]

34. and 147 FBI investigators.

Let's not forget she lead there too!

[PonyUp]

35. Jinx! Beat you by 10 minutes!

[Cobalt Violet]

37. It really can't be said enough

[NowSam]

7. many of us believe

that her 1 million fake twitter followers are more legit than vores obtained via the rampanr voter suppression in several states.

[synergie]

11. You mean the ones that supressed more of her voters than Bernies?

Why isn't Bernie upset about the voter suppression that happened in all those caucus states where those who could not take the time off work, had children to take care of or were otherwise unable to attend or participate in the caucus system?

Do those votes not matter, are they not legitimate to the "fake twitter followers" and pretend online progressives who are very selective and imaginative about their concern for actual voting rights?

[Kentonio]

39. Why would you assume that people unable to attend a caucus are more likely to be Hillary supporters?

That doesn't seem like its in any way supported by the evidence.

[synergie]

12. It's probably true, can you imagine how freaked out he might be if there was an

actual chance that he might win and have to deliver on his rhetoric, when he has no actual plans, and has literally done NOTHING to help down ballot dems who are NECESSARY to even begin to entertain his ideas?

Of course he wants her winning by margins he cannot overcome, then he'll never have to face up to responsibility of actually following through. He's been part of the establishment for how long, and what has he gotten accomplished? He can't even convince his colleagues to do anything, not even endorse him.

As long as he loses, he'll still have the adulation of the youth, and can continue exhorting them for the "revolution" he has no idea how to pull off. Nor will he ever have to do the work of governing where one needs to stop with the ideological demagoguery and figure out how to get stuff done, even when it's unpopular. Imagine if he pulled that stomping off and finger wagging as president when he's called to the carpet for compromising on things.

[Kentonio]

40. You appear to have missed the large number of Bernie Dems now running for office on the Dem ticket.

[Betty Karlson]

30. The argument is about the party platform / party future:

He’s proved that presidential candidates do not have to be dependent on big donors. In every race from here on, there will be an insurgent slot waiting to be filled. He’s driven the debate in the campaign, forcing Clinton to adjust her positions and recycle some of his rhetoric. On trade, on Wall Street, on corporate tax dodges and CEO pay, on criminal justice, on the minimum wage and unions, money and politics — his campaign (plus movements like Black Lives Matter and Fight for $15) is opening new ground.

The longer Sanders stays in the race, the harder it will be for Clinton to abandon her new populist pledges.

[GreatGazoo]

31. Clinton peaked too early, again

She does well in Republican states but can't close it out.

Clinton's donors are maxed out while Sanders has more donations, 5.7 million, than any other campaign.

Clinton last year raised 58 percent of the $110.4 million she has amassed for the primary campaign from donors who have given maximum $2,700 donations, according to an analysis by the Campaign Finance Institute. Those donors are barred by federal limits from giving again for the primary,
...
Her leading opponent for the nomination, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, in 2015 raised only 2 percent of the $72.8 million he’s amassed for the primary from maxed-out donors. Instead, he relied on small donors who have donated $200 or less for 64 percent of his total haul.

Such donors are considered the gold standard of political fundraising because they can continue to give in small increments over the course of an entire campaign, creating a sustainable revenue stream. Additionally, it’s often less expensive to raise money from small donors, because they give online and don’t attend costly fundraising events.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-donors-218569#ixzz44Njg0xB4

2 million donors, 5.7 million donations versus 1 million donors, 58%+ maxed out

[PonyUp]

33. And 147 FBI investigators

[Cobalt Violet]

36. they ignore the reality of this.

The point has to be driven home before we are drive off the cliff.

[SFnomad]

4. Down by over 250 delegates? And more than 2 million votes?

And heading into states where he isn't expected to win?

Yeah, Sanders has Clinton exactly where he wants her.

#smh

[morningfog]

15. Down by 228 pledged delegates. We don't nominate on popular vote.

[SFnomad]

18. Down by 268 pledeged delegates (which is more than 250)

Clinton - 1243
Sanders - 975

Difference - 1243-975 or 268

And Sanders supporters were crying about how if Sanders won by the vote and Clinton "stole" it with Superdelegates, it would tear the Democratic Party apart ... so even though we don't nominate on popular vote, it is still relevant.

[morningfog]

19. It's 228.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/D-PU.phtml

[Tanuki]

20. Either way, it's comical to assert, as the OP does, that this is

"right where he wants her."

[SFnomad]

21. The discrepency is Washington State

Your link shows Washington State as 74 Sanders / 27 Clinton ... I took my numbers from Wikipedia and the NYT. No other website shows the numbers found at your link, yet. I even tried finding that at the voting website in Washington or the Washington Democratic Party website, I didn't see where either of those places show those numbers.

Either way Tanuki is correct, the OP is laughable.

[JackRiddler]

28. 74-27 is correct for Washington.

The rest of the WA delegates have not yet been but will officially be ratified through a process that is now predetermined, although the total may vary by 1 or 2. (Which would be wrong, if you ask me, but anyway...) Another detail that inflates the Clinton lead in the media, however. It's annoying because superdelegates aren't obligated and don't count until the convention, but get projected. Yet the nearly certain WA delegates aren't projected. Something tells me they might have been, if the result had gone to HRC's favor. Anyway.

[demwing]

38. Says the Clinton supporter

[SFnomad]

43. Fact are facts, math is math

At least I'm not in denial about it.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

5. Reminds me of the story about the Raiders linebacker in the 70's

and the raiders were on their own 2 yard line, 3rd down, down by 8 points and this guy says to Madden (coach)

"We got em right where we want em"





Dont get me wrong, I want Bernie to win, but man...

[Number23]

6. This thread is simply... magical.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

8. Wish I could remember his name, white guy that much I remember.

Had to be a white guy, right!

[Number23]

9. !!

[JackRiddler]

29. How did that game turn out?

[Kentonio]

41. I love that you picked a game that the Raiders actually went on to win.

[JoePhilly]

10. So Bernie is secretly a Clinton supporter!!!

Well played Bernie!!

[Nonhlanhla]

16. In the lead? nt.

[AgadorSparticus]

17. I'm sorry, but these kind of posts make Bernie supporters look desperate.

No one wants to be behind. Period.

[SFnomad]

22. Desperate? It makes them look out of touch with reality!!! n/t

[AgadorSparticus]

25. That, too! Nt

[noretreatnosurrender]

23. Read This Earlier Today

Thank you for posting it here.

I would encourage all Sanders supporters to read the entire piece. It's quite well done.

[Tarc]

24. So, he wants to be in a hole, looking up at the nomination that is out of reach?

Feelin the Bern, indeed....

[RandySF]

26. Way in front of him?

[MFM008]

27. Winning?

hmmmmm.

[DanTex]

42. Yup. With an enormous delegate lead. That's where I want her too.

[CalvinballPro]

44. Sanders'/Devine's 42-State Strategy turns out to be failure, who could have guessed?

You're supposed to run to be President of all states, not just some. Bernie blew it, bigtime.