What a Hillary superdelegate has to live with thanks to you guys....

[Chichiri]

EDITED TO ADD: Make up your mind, guys. It's a given that I suck for posting this, but do I suck because I shouldn't accuse people on DU of doing such a horrible thing, or do I suck because it's a good thing?

:large

Jared Polis (D-CO) got this with his takeout order. And this is one of the kinder messages he's gotten.

[morningfog]

1. "You guys?" Who are you taking to?

[NuclearDem]

13. Chinese takeout delivery drivers, obviously!

[roguevalley]

35. given that they're mostly lobbyists and other public blood suckers

i am less inclined to feel poorly for them.

[beam me up scottie]

41. Food delivery boys who wish people happy Easter.

[mcranor]

2. Don't you have some work to do in your yard, or something? n/t

[UMTerp01]

3. I have no sympathy

Superdelegates in my opinion shouldn't even exist so I'm not pulling out the violins. Yes, if there are any people who are threatening superdelegates or being vicious then thats one thing but just like you contact your congressperson when you have an issue with a bill they supported or a stance they are taking, this is no different.

[Starry Messenger]

4. Yikes!

I'd avoid take-out for the rest of the year, if I were them.

[CoffeeCat]

5. Love it!

I agree with the sentiment.

Super delegates should know how we feel!

I'm all for being respectful and kind. This note writer was.

We need more of this!

[beam me up scottie]

39. Whoever wrote it was kind and cheerful, they even wished him a happy Easter.

I was expecting a threat, vandalism or something worse.

[upaloopa]

6. Does Bernie even acknowledge that this is going on?

Does he condone the harrasment and bullying by his supporters?

He did a month or two ago.

It's hard to have respect for a campaign that claims to be superior when it's supporters try to intimidate folks

[NWCorona]

18. That narrative is spin

[jillan]

24. No Bernie is not going to silence people who contact their elected representative! It is our right

to contact those that represent us when they are not representing us.

We live in a Representative Democracy - as stated in the Constitution of the United States of America.

[upaloopa]

28. You don't get to intimidate and bully people no matter who you or they are!

Bernie's 2016 campaign will be remembered for it's supporters actions more than anything

[jillan]

34. Is it bullying to contact your elected reps in the Senate to vote for Obama's Supreme Court Nominee?

Is it bullying to contact your elected representative when they are using money slotted for public schools to fund the private prisons?

Is it bullying to contact your elected representative when they say that want to bomb Iran?

No it is not.

And it sure is not bullying to write a handwritten note to your elected official.

My gosh.

Not only do we live in a representative democracy, we also have the freedom of speech.

[Chan790]

79. No, upa...that's how the process is supposed to work.

The American public and his constituents have the right (inalienable) to petition their elected representatives to respond to their grievances. If Rep. Polis considers the very polite note in the OP to be intimidation and bullying, he's too weak-livered to actually hold elected office. I get more-intimidating mail regularly as an appointed Conservation Commissioner of the Town of B________ and a sworn conservation official of the state of CT. (People get really upset over the preservation or culling of trees in the state forest; trail improvements and remapping; land conservation and historic preservation; and farm regulation. If there's a more boring job in holding political office, I don't know what it is.)

If Rep. Polis wants to not be addressed and contacted about his convention vote as a superdelegate, he has options:

1.) He can resign his seat and thus his superdelegate vote. (Not realistic, I'd think he was an idiot if he did this...but it is an option and I'm going to cover all options.)

2.) He can declare his intention in writing to the DNC chair to abstain his superdelegate vote and have a copy printed in the newspaper of the largest circulation in his district. Interestingly, there are rules and bylaws for this...it's an immediate and non-reversable action. He would have no superdelegate vote at the convention. Doing so would lower the total number of delegates needed to secure the nomination by 0.5, which rounds to 1. It would remove any reasons for any campaign's supporters to write him...he'd have the same 1 primary vote in his precinct for the nomination as every other registered Democrat.

3.) He can change his intended vote. I then expect Clinton supporters would start lobbying him to switch back.

4,) He can state that he's not going to be swayed and there is no point in anybody trying to lobby him to their side. This probably deters nobody.

5.) He can accept that this is part of his job, the same as all those letters he and every other representative to attempt to persuade him to their position on pending legislation or governmental actions.

[Scuba]

91. "Happy Easter" Keerist, how terrifying!!!

[panader0]

94. and "utmost respect" too! That one sent a chill down my spine!!

[CalvinballPro]

80. You contact a representative through their office. You harrass and stalk people through takeout.

JFC, is there no miserable behavior in support of Bernie that you'll acknowledge is over the line? Something is wrong with you folks, fundamentally.

[senz]

60. Oh get off it.

Sheesh.

[JackRiddler]

67. By your logic constituent letters are "harrassment."

I guess people should just shut up and let their betters decide for them!

[pangaia]

70. It's uoploopa again....

[BillZBubb]

71. If you believe that note was harassing or bullying, you must be a marshmallow.

Another whine from the Clinton club!

[dchill]

77. Once you commit to public service...

You're in public life, especially when it comes to your vote. Customarily, it will represent your constituency.

It's no occupation for the supersensitive superdelegate.

[timmymoff]

88. People voicing their opinion

to members of the democratic party is now bullying and harassment. Goodness.

[Matt_in_STL]

7. I'm trying to figure out what is wrong with this message. Seems respectful.

Maybe he needs to grow thicker skin if this hurt his feelings.

[JackRiddler]

68. Nothing. It's the soul of democracy...

but I'm guessing this thread is part of the preemptive spin to make something this innocent and positive seem wrong.

[Scuba]

92. "Happy Easter" Keerist, how terrifying!!!

[bravenak]

8. You all never get mail that says that? Hmm.

Maybe I'm a superdelegate.

[Matt_in_STL]

10. Maybe the congressman wrote it himself and is trying to pass it off as some sort of threat

Seems to be going around.

[bravenak]

12. Yeah right

[beam me up scottie]

15. LOL!

[TheFarS1de]

23. .....

[bobbobbins01]

95. I don't believe your story.

I think you made it up.

[cherokeeprogressive]

9. "You guys" is disgustingly offensive. You're accusing someone from DU of participating in this.

Unless you want to walk this back, you're saying that someone who READS DU left this note.

That is all kinds of fucked up.

[JackRiddler]

69. Truetrue but...

I would totally leave this note if I get a chance.

What's wrong with it? The device of this thread seems to be to preemptively characterize amicable political speech directed towards representatives in a democracy as "harrassment."

[cherokeeprogressive]

86. Oh I would never alert on it. I think monuments to stupidity should always be left standing.

Disgusting or not.

[Electric Monk]

11. ...

[TheFarS1de]

14. Who is "you guys" ?

Also how dare people petition someone in politics ...... it is almost unthinkable

[GardeningGal]

16. The people in his district have a right to express how they feel. He'll be wanting their vote also.

You also failed to post the entire article, so I'll do it for you. Here is the paragraph you noticeably left out:

While Polis has endorsed Clinton and told the Daily Camera last year she would be a "strong leader" as president, Sanders won Colorado's Democratic caucus and received nearly twice as many votes as Clinton in Boulder County, which is in Polis' district.

Link to full article:

http://www.dailycamera.com/local-election-news/ci_29694062/jared-polis-clinton-backing-superdelegate-feels-bern-from

[LettuceSea]

33. Lucky for him he's running against an amateur. He could eat babies and still win that district.

If they ran Leiung (sp) again, it would be close.

[beam me up scottie]

17. A constituent expessed an opinion and wished him a Happy Easter?

[jillan]

19. Omg - I thought he received a bomb threat or white powder in the mail! But it was just a note from a

constituent. Whew!

C'mon people, get a grip.
I call John McCain or email his office just about every month when he does something that I do not like. He was elected to represent me & it is my civic duty to tell him when he is not.
Does he ever listen? haha. But that is not going to stop me from expressing my concerns.

I'm sure you wouldn't want to silence his constituents, would you?

[Gothmog]

20. The bernie bros will alienate far more super delegates than they convert

[JoePhilly]

58. + 1

[Sky Masterson]

21. The person who wrote it must be young

The note would have been more effective if they asked nice and left out the "Use your power wisely".
Kids, Be nice and you will better have a chance to inspire the person to change.
Something like this:

Dear Sir.
I know you are a super delegate who is planning to vote for Secretary Clinton.
Please consider the voters of (Insert state) who overwhelmingly selected Bernie Sanders and let their voices be heard through your vote. Thank you and have a nice day.

The stalker thing doesn't work.




(Edited to remove "/bully&quot

[Matt_in_STL]

25. You may want to look up the definition of bullying

You do actual bullying victims a disservice by trying to push that meme.

[Sky Masterson]

27. I'm not trying to push anything.

Besides Manners.

[Matt_in_STL]

30. Then refer to the writer as rud if that is how you feel

This does not fit the definition of "stalker"or "bully" and denigrates those that are actual victims. This is a congressman who you feel was treated rudely, to which many people would disagree. Words have meaning - please use them wisely.

[Sky Masterson]

38. Well shit.

I guess I need a focus group and a F%^&ing committee to run every line of text through before I post it here.
DU used to be far less of a pain in the @$$

[Matt_in_STL]

40. No, you can choose to use any words you want

Thought I might help you out in not looking like an ass. Carry on.

[Sky Masterson]

44. I'm famous around here for my ASS.

Enjoy your Word Police beat.

[NWCorona]

22. Bullying I tell you!

Imagine that, an elected official getting an earful from his constitutes.

The horror!

[Doctor_J]

26. Has the secret service been notified? This is really a menacing note!

Hide the women and children!

[questionseverything]

36. lol a "threatening" happy easter note

i am amazed at what passes for "harassment"

unreal

seriously , how dare WE THE PEOPLE actually voice our opinions

[beam me up scottie]

42. Did you just tell that poster to have a happy Easter? *ALERTED*

[questionseverything]

48. nono i would never "threaten" anyone with HAPPY EASTER

lol

i was quoting a mean berniebro that dared to write to his elected representative

pssst...when did that get to be a bad thingy?

[beam me up scottie]

51. I dunno, I'm an evul atheist and *I* don't even get offended by it.

A nice handwritten note expressing an opinion And warm wishes from your food delivery guy? You'd think the rep would be happy to hear from one of his constituents.

Maybe he should have included a bribe?

[questionseverything]

56. maybe that was the problem...no bribe

[Jackie Wilson Said]

29. if this was done the other way around, the Bernie fans would be demeaning it and

the Hillary fans would be supporting it.

This is getting boring.

Cant wait for it to be over.

[Ken Burch]

32. So, nobody has any right to try and persuade superdelegates? n/t.

[ibegurpard]

37. OMG unbelievable

That a politician has to put up with persuasion attempts from constituents...
The nerve!

[Lucinda]

43. That is awful.

And almost as bad are the people in this thread that think this is ok.

[questionseverything]

53. exactly why is it "awful"?

[Lucinda]

57. Why do you think it isn't? n/t

[questionseverything]

61. we have every right to contact our elected reps

and this note was respectful and even gracious

[Lucinda]

63. This is trying to intimidate someone ordering food.

Contacting them would be sending mail or phoning their office.
The fact that you think this is ok tells me volumes about you.

[questionseverything]

65.

wishing someone "happy easter" is not intimidating but whatever

[JaneyVee]

45. So should Raul Grijalva and Nina Turner flip to HRC?

Since she won those states?

[EyeOnLife]

49. Nope. They can stay

Because we know now that Arizona wasn't really Hillary's. The provisional ballots will be counted.

[EyeOnLife]

47. Native Foods.

Great food. All vegan.

I recommend the Scorpion Burger.

Polis needs to represent the constituents intent.

[Attorney in Texas]

50. This election is important to Sanders supporters. If Hillary was half as compelling, you'd see her

supporters doing the same sort of things.

There is a reason why Sanders inspires passion and Hillary does not.

[Metric System]

54. Seriously, that's your excuse? Hillary supporters are passionate, which is why we VOTE!

[elias7]

52. The problem is you don't get who supports Bernie.

It's not like they're all guys or bros. Getting close to half of all Democratic Party voters and a huge chunk of independents, as well as a chunk of republicans. Men, women, young, old, white, POC..."you guys" need to stop lumping all Bernie supporters together into one ugly unrealistic stereotype.

Besides, if you haven't noticed, there's more snark being dealt by the Hillary crowd these days, just audit a few posts, you'll see. "You guys" are behaving as poorly, if not more.

On top of that, super delegates, IMO, undermine the democratic form with an authoritarian bent, as close to 60% of them are DNC.

[Shadowflash]

55. Yeah. I know, right?

The gall of an American citizen voicing an opinion to a legislator.


Without a large amount of cash along with it.

[charlespercydemocrat]

59. outdated

Superdelegates should not even exist right now.

[Cheese Sandwich]

62. The nerve of some common delivery driver daring to WRITE A NOTE to a member of Congress!!1111!

Terrifying. I hope homeland security was called in to investigate

[nadinbrzezinski]

64. FFSS, elected officials get messages all the time

some nice, some not so nice. It comes with the job. My local congressman knows this by the way. His office got taken over by anti TPP activists. He took it in stride

[Bluenorthwest]

66. Sounds to me like a Colorado elected official heard the views of a constituent. Why does that

bother you? Polis is a Rep, not a Royal, the voter is a citizen not a subject.

Also, that was an individual who communicated with his own Congressperson, not 'you guys'. I do not assume that all Hillary supporters are like the ones who post antisemitic and gay bashing crap. Should I?

[JackRiddler]

73. Wrong class. Besides, this delivery guy...

did he hand over $2K for the campaign? No, he took a tip! How DARE HE?!

[whatchamacallit]

72. Oh no, those poor elites actually getting letters from constituents!?!

Will the horror never end?!?

[rachacha]

74. For shame! Constituents communicating directly with congressmen...

There ought to be a law against that!

[hellofromreddit]

75. Oh no, democracy

Voters are suffering from poverty far more than politicians are suffering from notes.

[monicaangela]

76. Desperation takes many forms...

[PatrickforO]

78. Good. Polis' constituency has indeed spoken. Colorado went for Bernie.

Polis is a good guy but he needs to shed that Third Way skin ASAP because the writing is on the wall here in CO. There are quite a few people talking about 'primary-ing' Bennet from the left, not this time, but next time he runs, and he's not the only one. People here are the same as people throughout the USA. We're tired of politicians getting elected, doing some socially liberal things that don't address our kitchen table issues, and then passing laws (like the TPP fast track) that will cost us millions of jobs. Just like NAFTA, CAFTA and GATS. Did you know that the provisions in GATS are what kept Obama and the Dems from passing Single Payer in 2009 when they could have?

HOW, HOW, HOW is this any good at all for you and I?????

I want my tax dollars used for stuff that actually benefits me, not domestic spying, forever war, war on drugs, privatized prisons and military mercenaries. All that is utter shit as far as any benefit my family might glean from it.

So, Jared, you're a good guy, BUT GET WITH THE PROGRAM.

[cantbeserious]

81. Bernie Is The Only Antidote For The Corrupt Nation Once Known As America

eom

[Dawson Leery]

82. And Trump wants protesters taken away on stretchers.

The extremes on both sides must be stopped.

[Bluenorthwest]

83. Why don't you tell us what punitive measures you suggest for this presumptuous peasant?

The stocks might be insufficient. Perhaps the lash?

[AzDar]

84. The Revolution will not be televised, but it's coming for all those corrupt pols just the same...

[noamnety]

85. The delivery person needs to learn the difference

between a constituent and a servant.

[islandmkl]

87. so...a public political figure is only 'public' in their goddam office?

yeah, tell a fucking intern what you want the rep to hear...

that is corporatism at its fundamental core...

democracy, not so much...

you want to represent. then let the people talk to you...wherever they can find you...

delivery driver probably doesn't attend too many fundraisers...

[frylock]

89. Oh, the humanity.

[snowy owl]

90. Why superdelegates? Why commit before campaign? Stupid! (See John Oliver)

[Orsino]

93. How dare they assume he's Christian?