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Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:45 PM

If Bernie Closes the Gap and You're a Superdelegate...

wouldn't you be tempted to switch to the candidate with the momentum and supporter enthusiasm, who wins in purple states instead of just the deep south?

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Reply If Bernie Closes the Gap and You're a Superdelegate... (Original post)
speaktruthtopower Mar 2016 OP
hack89 Mar 2016 #1
dchill Mar 2016 #5
hack89 Mar 2016 #7
dchill Mar 2016 #8
hack89 Mar 2016 #9
dchill Mar 2016 #10
hack89 Mar 2016 #11
geek tragedy Mar 2016 #2
onehandle Mar 2016 #3
speaktruthtopower Mar 2016 #4
rock Mar 2016 #6
Garrett78 Mar 2016 #12
Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #13
Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #14

Response to speaktruthtopower (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:46 PM

1. No. You go with the candidate with the most pledged delegates at the convention. Nt

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Response to hack89 (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:52 PM

5. Then you admit it's wrong for MSM to include them...

in their delegate counts?

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Response to dchill (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:04 PM

7. Yes. Not that it matters much

Hillary's lead in pledged delegates is practically insurmountable. Super delegates only play a role if there is more than one candidate. Hillary will enough delegates to win without the supers by early June at the latest.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:08 PM

8. Those goalposts should be on casters.

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Response to dchill (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:15 PM

9. Bernie is the one with huge problems

he has yet to win a big state in a blow out. That is the only way he will get enough deletes to catch up. Hillary can conceivably lose every remaining state and still win the nomination. Bernie can conceivably win every remaining state and still lose the nomination. While neither will happen, that should give you pause.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:18 PM

10. What you're saying is that we both...

should be given pause.

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Response to dchill (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:21 PM

11. I support Hillary. I am happy with the present situation.

She will have some big victories in the next month that will put it away for her.

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Response to speaktruthtopower (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:47 PM

2. no. nt

 

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Response to speaktruthtopower (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:48 PM

3. No. nt

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Response to speaktruthtopower (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:48 PM

4. Most of them committed to her..

before there were any pledged delegates, and her lead is based on the perception of inevitability that created.

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Response to speaktruthtopower (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:58 PM

6. No.

First momentum does not exist (it's a reification). Secondly the SD should vote the way his constituency votes, unless he has a specific reason for doing otherwise. There are political consequences if he doesn't (I mean to the SD!).

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Response to speaktruthtopower (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:46 PM

12. As I've pointed out many times already...

...it's Sanders who is most reliant on "red" areas. Once he wins Wyoming, he will have won the 4 'reddest' states in the US. If you look at the list of 24 states Romney won in 2012 (with #1 being the state he won by the largest margin and #24 being the state he won by the smallest margin), you find that most of the Deep South states are in the bottom half of the list, while the states Sanders is winning are the reddest of the red.

Clinton won, handily, the 2 most important 'purple' states: Ohio and Florida.

And chances are Clinton's lead will be greater a month from now than it was a week ago. A majority of the remaining delegates are in states that Clinton typically wins: populous, diverse states.

The Clinton-Red State meme lives on, but it doesn't become true just because people keep repeating it.

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Response to speaktruthtopower (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:58 PM

13. We have a super delegate here

who is doubling down on her support for Hillary despite the blowout on Saturday, and she's quickly unfriending anyone who calls her out on it. We have another super delegate who announced support for Bernie yesterday. Two remain undecided. If those two decide to go for Clinton, there will be fireworks at the convention in May.

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Response to speaktruthtopower (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:00 PM

14. Didn't Hillary win Ohio, Virginia and Florida?

 

The ultimate swing states with tons of electoral votes.

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