Sanders, Clinton Set for NY Debate

[applegrove]

Sanders, Clinton Set for NY Debate

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/03/29/sanders-clinton-set-for-ny-debate.html

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Hillary Clinton has agreed to debate Bernie Sanders in New York prior to the April 19 primary, according to a press release from Sanders' campaign. Clinton said during a campaign visit in Wisconsin on Tuesday that she'd be open to it after suggesting otherwise for weeks. Sanders' response on CNN was "Let's do it." No date or further information is available.


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[NWCorona]

1. Called it!

All this could have been avoided too!

[CorporatistNation]

13. Another Shining Example Of The "Front Runner's" Poor Judgement... Point... Bernie Sanders!

[NWCorona]

16. Yes!

[joshcryer]

74. All what?

Clinton has not ducked a single debate or town hall. It's all theater. Gets them both media coverage. Panders to their constituents.

[hrmjustin]

2. If it is in Brooklyn i might try to get a ticket or Rally for Hillary.

This is Clinton country after all.

[bettyellen]

9. if you do and need a DU date, holler for me!

you could do worse! I'm a loud clapper.

HA.

[hrmjustin]

12. Lol. I brt will be next to impossible to get a ticket but you never know.

[bettyellen]

23. I would love to meet you sometime, at any rate.... and I am so damned fun.

So there is that. We should do a NYC meetup before November- shouldn't we? What do you think?
It has been forever for me- the Bush years- since I have been to one.

[hrmjustin]

24. I have never been to one.

A November get out the vote meet up might be fun.

[bettyellen]

38. OMG, you meet the most awesome people. You will LOVE. Maybe a weekend in October?

I'd love to invite an out of town DUer or two to crash here.

[hrmjustin]

41. It might be s plan.

[bettyellen]

43. The last time we did it, there were a lot of out of towners in for the weekend.

Some people split cheap hotel rooms, some crashed on couches. Everyone had people in mind they were excited to meet.
I am not a group person in general, I hate tours in particular.... but they were always cool. It was almost like going to a masquerade party. Because you "know" people but don't recognize them. It's really a lot of fun.

[CorporatistNation]

18. Who Was The "Carpetbagger" Then?

Hmmmm?

If I recall correctly... One of the candidates was... BORN IN BROOKLYN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hrmjustin]

21. Yeah but only one won Brooklyn 5 times.

Nice try though.

[CalvinballPro]

28. Yeah, the same candidate who joined the White Flight out of the city as minorities moved in.

And moved on to the more homogeneous pastures of Vermont.

[thesquanderer]

45. Yes, I'm sure that's why he left Brooklyn.

His civil rights activism in the 60s was all a clever ruse, just in case he was ever going to run for president.

[DemocraticWing]

64. These people act like there's no good reason to move to Vermont.

I've never been there but it sounds great.

[jillan]

67. He left to go to college.

[CalvinballPro]

80. Check your timeline. He left NYC for Vermont in 1968, 4 years after he graduated & left Chicago.

[jillan]

82. Check yours.

By the end of his year at Brooklyn College, Mr. Sanders was more than ready to leave for Chicago.

Funny - it doesn't mention Vermont in there

Oh but here it does....

In fact, Mr. Sanders was on the verge of leaving — first for the University of Chicago, where he transferred from Brooklyn College, and ultimately for Vermont.

[NanceGreggs]

29. Do you mean "carpetbagger" ...

... as in someone who demeans the Democratic Party for decades, and then runs as one because - as he said - he'd get more media coverage that way?

[sheshe2]

36. ^^This ^^

And your sig line too.

[bettyellen]

40. We look a little dimly at people who leave- wonder if they couldn't hack it.

[geek tragedy]

44. you mean the guy who signed up as a Democrat only last year? nt

[JackRiddler]

68. snicker

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"Clinton country." Hee haw.

[Uncle Joe]

3. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, applegrove.

[nichomachus]

4. And once again Hillary gives herself a black eye in the process

She is a terrible campaigner. Just terrible.

[Gwhittey]

63. Well she has not really had to ever run a campaign

2008 was only real campaign she ever ran. Running as a (D) in NY is not really hard. Anything short of being a serial killer and you would win over a (R). 2008 she failed because of same shit that is failing her now. She starts out way ahead and thinks the SD are going to win it for her. She plays dirty and turns off most people except for the low information ones who are blind to the rat-fuckery

[dana_b]

5. so much drama

for one debate. But I bet the ratings will be great!

[NWCorona]

6. Fyi

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/17381/

[LonePirate]

7. Thank goodness this round of nonsensical drama is over.

[Land of Enchantment]

8. Game On! Can we hear about Climate Change and Global Warming--Pleeeease?! nt

[riderinthestorm]

22. +1 million!!!!! nt

[angstlessk]

10. I recon he got the 'tone' just right?

[thereismore]

55. Touche. nt

[rachacha]

11. Great news. Glad she's up for it.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

14. But-but-but---

TONE!!!1!

[ljm2002]

15. Great news!

Thank you Hillary.

Now let's get ready to rumble! er, debate!!

[Trenzalore]

17. They were privately negotiating this nicely

Than Sanders needed a fundraising email to give his crowd their outrage of the week.

[CalvinballPro]

31. Exactly. Bernie is now closer to resembling Trump than ever. He even plays the media for free time.

[morningfog]

39. Only one candidate threatened to pull out of the debates like trump.

It was Hillary.

[Trenzalore]

46. They were talking to each other

When Tad Devine decided he needed your $27 and had a good idea on how to get it.

[morningfog]

48. One camp publicly threatened to renege on their deal.

Hillary's.

[bettyellen]

51. One camp lied to everyone saying a NY deal had been made already. Bernie says different on his

web site, but I have seen it added to the litany of lies. HA.

[morningfog]

58. When did he say a NY had been made?

[bettyellen]

60. I saw three posts, one an OP where someone explained to their Aunt that Hillary promised and

so was now a "liar" for not agreeing. Seriously. No one gives a shit about the veracity of what they post, they know people will believe anything. No one corrected the OP, and they ignored it when I did.

[morningfog]

61. Yeah posts are often devoid of fact.

But it was Hillary's campaign itself that threatened to renege on the deal to participate in April and May debates.

[bettyellen]

62. No one denied that- the lie was she had promised NY. Loads of people repeated that....

I think it came from some blogger. I'm sick of this shit!
We are having a NYC DU metope this summer or fall- you should come!

[frylock]

42. Was Joel Benenson in on the scam as well?

[jeff47]

59. Sure! That's why the Clinton campaign didn't mention they were in discussions

and instead said "no".

[Lucinda]

79. Bingo!

[ladjf]

19. This could go either way depending on a number of variables. Risky business.

[MrMickeysMom]

20. Let's do it!

Maybe all the petitions (I signed one) encouraged this to finally happen.

[Paulie]

25. I read here earlier that debates are for losers

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. But, but I thought there were not going to be more debates!

Oh well...

(It is good though)

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

27. Did she get him to agree to change his "tone"?

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

30. Sanders Leads...

Weathervane follows

[redstateblues]

81. he neither leads in delegates nor popular votes

He leads his followers off the cliff

[timmymoff]

32. Well I would guess after polling

was showing her to look hypocritical, she decided to evolve on her debate stance.

[OhZone]

33. Good! She's great in debates! :) nt

[Bluenorthwest]

34. "Politicians who are ahead, dont debate, this applies to all of them." this was said to me just this

morning by some very certain Hillary supporter with a sermon to deliver as they all seem to have.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511604567#post54

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

35. Be careful

Call outs not allowed

[applegrove]

37. I think that that is true. Obviously Hillary has confidence in her ability to do one more debate.

And win.

[bettyellen]

47. Wow, she will use the Sarandon comment against him.

[morningfog]

49. If she tries to, it will fall flat.

I hope she does try, it will only embarrass herself. I don't think she is that foolish though.

[bettyellen]

50. Hmmm, it depends. I think Sarandon is already walking it back today. I bet she won't use

such volatile language again anytime soon.

[jillan]

70. And he can use the Madeline Albright comment against her.

[bettyellen]

71. Is Albright traveling on the campaign trail as a surrogate?

I did not know that! Interesting.

[jillan]

75. She has introduced Hillary as many times as Susan has introduced Bernie.

[bettyellen]

76. Well I'm glad she apologized for her statement then!

[JackRiddler]

73. That's got about a minute left as an "issue"

literally!

Whatever it is, Camp Clinton's bullshit du jour attack for tomorrow has already been decided, you can be certain, and it won't be Sarandon. Not the sort of thing that runs for more than a day.

[Ed Suspicious]

52. She is not very good at this. She invited the image beating she took, then

wound up giving in anyway. Her handlers are inept.

[timlot]

53. Moderator: "Senator Sanders will you denounce the comments made Susan Sarandon and pledge...

to support the nominee?"

[asuhornets]

54. TO: Senator Sanders: Be careful what you wish for.....n/t

[thesquanderer]

56. all it says is that Hillary said she was open to the idea.

It doesn't sound like it was a firm commitment, though it seems like the Sanders campaign is trying to finesse it into one.

[itsrobert]

57. I wonder if Sanders will address why he fled Brooklyn in the early 1960s?

And how does he feel about the Gentrification of Brooklyn now.

[jillan]

72. He left to go to college at the University of Chicago- the #4 Top college in the US.

Nice try.

[RepubliCON-Watch]

77. What a fail. I'd laugh too.

[jillan]

78. I understand that some people think getting a college education from a top University is a joke.

Some people value education and others obviously do not.

[RepubliCON-Watch]

83. Sad to see fellow democrats believe education is a privilege instead of a right. nt

[jillan]

84. Even sadder to see attending a prestigious University is a joke to some.

[burrowowl]

65. Good!!!

[fun n serious]

66. I say do it at ground zero nt

[JackRiddler]

69. They should hold it at Cooper Union

where Lincoln made the speech that would make him president.