This is how a super delegate in Alaska chooses to respond to a caucus-goer. OMG

[Blue_In_AK]

http://usuncut.com/politics/alaska-superdelegate/

One superdelegate casually admitted to a Bernie Sanders supporter that she’ll vote to nominate Hillary Clinton, despite 81.6 percent of her state voting for Sanders.

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At this point in the conversation, Metcalfe’s tone turned noticeably sour. She patronized Younger, reminding him of her experience as a Democratic Party officer for decades, and essentially told him his opinion on how she should cast her superdelegate vote was invalid, since he was just a voter.

METCALFE: I’m in the pocket of no one. I have no financial connections to Hillary Clinton or any other Democrat. I am a retired union representative. I put in my time in the trenches for 40 years, and I really object to someone like you who has probably done nothing except caucus telling me what to do. I am voting for the best interests of my country. And that would be Hillary Clinton.

Younger retorted that he exercised his right to vote as an American citizen, and that her belittling comment was rude. He then reminded her that he was one of many Alaskans who caucused for Bernie Sanders, and that he and those who supported Sanders in the Alaska caucus vastly outnumbered Hillary Clinton supporters.

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Read the whole thing. It's really appalling and illustrates exactly what's wrong with super delegates and, frankly, the sense of entitlement that some Hillary supporters exhibit.

We only have 16 delegate votes here in the end, one-quarter of whom are super delegates. At least one has committed to the will of the people, but if the other two agree with Ms. Metcalfe, instead of 13 delegates for the convention, Bernie will only get 11, with 5 going to Hillary. Why should she get almost a third of the delegates when she only won 19% at the caucus.

I have my fingers crossed that the remaining two super delegates will do the right thing.


I saw elsewhere on Facebook where Ms. Metcalfe treated another Bernie supporter even worse.

Party officials like this are why Democrats have such a hard time winning in Alaska.

[mooseprime]

1. it may be opportunism, pure and simple

if you're in the american political racket and for sale, the political and financial benefits of backing a successful clinton candidacy seem pretty obvious. what a strange, strange place we live in. having each person put a piece of paper into a box has grotesquely morphed into DWS and this whole vulgar apparatus.

[roguevalley]

16. this is a community here where everyone is accessible. they will regret that

[grasswire]

2. these people don't believe in democracy

They believe in plutocracy. Superior to the hoi polloi --- what were the little people thinking? One person one vote???

[questionseverything]

24. this super delegate is just proving carlin right

it's a big club and we ain't in it

the super's excuse that "conversations with bernie supporters are negative" is bull hockey

we tell the truth about hc and that sounds negative

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. This is actually worst, this same atitude exists in my fair county

it is pervasive, and this is why Democrats are leaving the party. We can vote in the primary anyway, but Dems are barely holding by their fingers to current membership numbers, It is a good question for how long?

Oh and yes, the Dems have a heck of a time competing in San Diego, and it is not becuase this is such a red county anymore.

[jillan]

4. And they wonder why they can't get the under 35 y/o vote.

[cui bono]

14. I don't think they want them to.

The Republicans want less people to vote because that's the only way they win. When more people vote Dems win.

Well, when the voting is all within the Dem Party, it's the right wing of the Dem Party that doesn't want people to vote, hence the disenfranchisement of voters affecting mostly Bernie supporters.

It's always the establishment/corporate side of the contest that doesn't want the people to vote because they know the more people vote, the more they choose the candidate that is actually good for them.

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[Barack_America]

5. They say 1 superdelegate = 20,000 voters.

I think this is 100% true.

I'll bet that for every one SD who says "fuck you" to their distict/state, 20,000 voters decide not to vote for Hillary in the general.

I'm one of Debbie Dingell's 20,000.

[reformist2]

6. She actually thinks her vote is worth more than someone who did "nothing except caucus". Amazing.

No more superdelegates. Ever again.

[pacalo]

8. Erin Burnette (CNN) called out this statement by Wasserman-Schultz...

“Unpledged delegates exist really to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don’t have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists,” Wasserman Schultz said in the clip.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/29/cnn-anchor-on-democratic-superdelegates-sounds-like-the-system-is-rigged-video/#ixzz44LpUENak

Erin Burnett said, “Ouch! That sounds like the system is rigged against grassroots activists, against people like Bernie Sanders."

Video clip at link.

[Vote2016]

9. Sanders needs to clean house at the DNC

[Old Codger]

10. If

The popular vote goes to Bernie and the supers give it to hill it is all over,not maybe,not if anymore but done and finished.... the Democratic party will be finished as a viable entity. Dems will flee to party in droves and unless someone can come up with some sort of unified third party it will end up being a huge mass of Independents who are loyal to no party at all.

[Buns_of_Fire]

19. That's the scenario that scares me.

I don't think it'll happen, but what I "think" isn't going to have any effect on the convention floor.

But if it did, Hillary could forget about redecorating the Oval Office, and The Party could forget about being any kind of viable party for the foreseeable future. Welcome to Chicago, circa 1968.

[Maedhros]

28. It doesn't scare me at all.

Maybe it's time for things to be shaken up a bit? This stale Good Cop (D) - Bad Cop (R) routine isn't getting the job done.

[Buns_of_Fire]

29. Shaking things up royally doesn't bother me, either. I'd just hate to see

a situation develop that could potentially put a Trump or (God Forbid) a Cruz in the WH.

Nice thing, though: The Party of the Damned doesn't like them much better than we do.

[Maedhros]

30. They say if Bernie wins, Congress will be so obstructional that he will get nothing done.

If Trump wins, won't the same thing happen? Democrats will shut him out, and non-Tea Party Republicans will thwart him as well.

[arcane1]

25. The party would have zero credibility at that point

Hell, its already too close to that point.

[sadoldgirl]

11. If the SD go with the winner of the rest

of the delegates, then the rules are kept.

If otoh, the SDs go against the majority, we will
have not only mayhem at the convention, but a
lot of those SDs, up for election in November,
will lose.

Either way, it is clear that more and more voters
resent the rules of the SDs, and that in itself will
stir up trouble. Maybe the platform should be
revised regarding this issue.

[Jester Messiah]

12. I guess they're going to find out what a super delegate's vote is worth in the general.

Spoiler alert: not enough.

[Blue_In_AK]

13. I figured in Alaska,

based on the approximately 10,000 caucus-goers statewide, one super delegate equals approximately 825 regular people. I'm sure it's much worse in larger states.

[jcgoldie]

15. bitch about superdelegates

Sometime when your candidate isn't a couple million actual votes behind in the election. Until then, the "elites are stealing it from us" argument is beyond ridiculous.

[Blue_In_AK]

17. My point is that super delegates should respect the voters of their state

percentage wise, and let the chips fall where they may. I will have no problem with how Ms. Metcalfe votes if the other three supers go for Sanders as they hopefully will, but I think her attitude toward caucus-goers sucks and does very little to generate support for the Democratic Party or her candidate.

[beltanefauve]

20. Are you sure you're posting

In the right group?

[arcane1]

26. Or the right site, for that matter n/t

[reddread]

21. I take it you are 15 years old and ditching history class regularly?

[mhatrw]

18. LIBERTY! EQUALITY! SORORITY!

[Cobalt Violet]

22. she thinks it's better for the country to nominate someone with 147 FBI investors tailing her?

How does one get so deranged? What's so good for the country about that?

[GusBob]

32. 147 FBI agents? You got any proof of that?

eom

[Aerows]

33. I suggest you google the following:

Hillary Clinton 147 FBI agents.

I don't have time to provide all of the links for you, nor do I care, if at this point you 'lack proof'.

[GusBob]

34. Its not true. eom

[obamanut2012]

41. 100% not true

As per the FBI themselves.

[snooper2]

40. That is a lot of investors, she must be doing something right

[VulgarPoet]

23. No one's entitled to my vote. The super delegates can fall in line with their states

or fall out of their seats; I frankly don't care which.

[apnu]

27. The Primary system is more for the parties and not the actual election.

There seems to be a disconnect between what people are voting for in the primaries right now. People seem to be acting as if they are really electing someone, that's not true. All of this is for the parties to deal with, and its an inconsistent mess on both sides.

Super Delegates aren't representatives that the primary voters are electing or telling who to vote for. They know exactly what they are and what their role and powers are.

Berating them, ambushing them, won't motivate them to consider Bernie. The system is what it is, Bernie, when he switched parties, signed up for that. Bernie people need to understand it and start working that system in their favor. They can't change it today, or even in this election cycle, they can only use it to their advantage, and overcome any and all road blocks the establishment will put in their way.

As the old saying goes: "You catch more flies with honey."

[strategery blunder]

36. Way to miss the point.

The OP isn't about the super replying to a BernieBro. The OP is about a super replying to a caucusgoer trying to "work the system" and "catch more flies with honey."

(And yes, even as a Bernie supporter, I'm aware that BernieBros trying to bully supers is not going to get us anywhere.)

The exchange didn't really start to enter BernieBro territory until the super had already condescended to the caucusgoer. At that point, the caucusgoer became offended and defensive, as most anyone would if talked down to like that.

The supers don't want to ever come into contact with the hoi polloi that would lobby them to switch to Bernie. Even if they're elected supers (by that I mean supers by virtue of being governors or congresscritters). No hoi polloi, no matter how respectful, could be "respectful" enough to the supers bearing this attitude for those supers to NOT turn around and make these "how dare they?" complaints. And that's a large part of the problem.

Then again, that's why I'm waiting until the 7 June results are in before I start making these kinds of requests to my local elected supers.

The worst thing is if these supers insist on continuing this kind of arrogance and haughtiness, to the point of "using" their power to overturn the pledged delegate count (be that where it may, it cuts both ways and I won't be asking Clinton supers to switch if she gets to 2026 pledged), they will reap foolishness in November.

ETA: Ironically if the super had been straight up and told the caucusgoer that she has had too many unpleasant conversations with Bernie supporters (i.e. been the actual victim of bullying from BernieBros), that previous such encounters influenced her decision to support Hillary instead, and then politely disengaged from the conversation, she would have received a lot more understanding and sympathy imo.

[apnu]

37. I didn't miss the point.

But the Bernie person should have not even bothered to confront a Clinton supporting super. Its a meaningless task, especially when emotions are high as they are on voting day.

Most supers genuinely believe Hillary is the best choice, nothing wrong with that. We may disagree with that, but we must also accept the system as it is. Bernie threw his hat in this ring, he knows about the supers and he's following those rules.

[drokhole]

31. I guess some votes are more equal than others. n/t

[Gothmog]

35. I was amused by this story

The bernie bro's attempt to convince this long time union member and Democratic party member was very very weak.

[Vinca]

38. Superdelegates in states like this are nullifying votes when their support lines

up with the candidate who lost. We need to have a discussion about superdelegates after this is all over. Even the Republicans got rid of them. That's how bad they are.

[Octafish]

39. People like that take the 'Democracy' out of the Democratic Party.

Gee. One would think the basic concepts would be clear.

As for the union leadership fighting in the trenches for 40 years: You must have missed the battle, because organized labor has been on the run since Lewis Powell wrote his memo.