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baldguy

(36,649 posts)
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:26 AM Mar 2016

Washington Post Corrects Faulty Report That Nearly 150 FBI Agents Are Investigating Clinton Emails

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/03/29/washington-post-corrects-faulty-report-that-nea/209615

The Post Now Reports "The Number Of FBI Personnel Involved Is Fewer Than 50"
...

On March 27, the Post published a 5,000-word article detailing the FBI's investigation into Clinton's use of a private email and personal Blackberry device during her time as secretary of state. The original story reported: "One hundred forty-seven FBI agents have been deployed to run down leads, according to a lawmaker briefed by FBI Director James B. Comey."

The Post's claim spread throughout the media, with outlets frequently highlighting the 147 figure in their headlines and some using the report to attack Clinton. National Review termed the figure "a staggering deployment of manpower," while Breitbart News celebrated the "FBI recently kick[ing] its investigation into high gear." The Washington Post's Chris Cillizza highlighted the "eye-popping" 147 figure by commenting, "W-H-A-T?", adding that the reported number of agents seemed "like a ton for a story that Clinton has always insisted was really, at heart, a right-wing Republican creation," while MSNBC's Joe Scarborough called the number the "worst kept secret in DC for months." The story was also highlighted in several segments on Fox News.

But the next day, Politico reported that the Post's story might be inaccurate. According to Politico, an official close to the investigation refuted the Post's report, saying that "The FBI does not have close to 150 agents working the investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's email server" and that the Post's "number is greatly exaggerated."


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Washington Post Corrects Faulty Report That Nearly 150 FBI Agents Are Investigating Clinton Emails (Original Post) baldguy Mar 2016 OP
Another HRC hit piece with inaccuracies! mcar Mar 2016 #1
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #2
Please do not imply that another DUer is MineralMan Mar 2016 #4
Par for the course. baldguy Mar 2016 #9
I suppose so. It makes me sad to see it. MineralMan Mar 2016 #10
Thank you MM mcar Mar 2016 #13
No problem. I'm always glad to help. MineralMan Mar 2016 #16
I would like to comment on that person's one_voice Mar 2016 #17
It is shameful and more than a little silly mcar Mar 2016 #20
Thank you, one voice.. i would like to comment on the stalker behavior on that poster's trying Cha Mar 2016 #45
Thank you, Cha mcar Mar 2016 #48
.. Cha Mar 2016 #49
Guess that guy has some issues to work out. zappaman Mar 2016 #15
Some people just don't learn. George II Mar 2016 #25
Beautiful! mcar Mar 2016 #34
Some people have agendas. MineralMan Mar 2016 #36
You might want to consult the ADL on this nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #43
They use the Odin's Cross version rbrnmw Mar 2016 #46
Your mileage will vary nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #51
This! mcar Mar 2016 #54
well said!!!!! Sheepshank Mar 2016 #56
Well, thank you for your suggestion. MineralMan Mar 2016 #47
I am not implying a thing nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #50
Current tension on this website? Seriously? mcar Mar 2016 #55
concede to white supremacists? why would anyone do that? Sheepshank Mar 2016 #57
Ok. zappaman Apr 2016 #58
So fewer than 50 FBI agents that sparkles everything. gordianot Mar 2016 #3
Less than 50 on the server issue, how many looked at the emails? HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #6
The whole stupid chain of events may have been started by Obama Blackberry envy. gordianot Mar 2016 #24
The original story was based on misinformation from MineralMan Mar 2016 #5
Parsing noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #30
The Updated Version noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #31
And several of those MisInformation articles were brought to DU-- riversedge Mar 2016 #7
If any story looks bad for Hillary, it will be posted MineralMan Mar 2016 #11
Sad. and Thanks for post. riversedge Mar 2016 #12
The tentacles of that right wing conspiracy that both hates her and wants to derail her Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #26
Question noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #32
Frankly, it's all bullshit. MineralMan Mar 2016 #35
I think you are saying noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #37
Nothing about the FBI that comes from MineralMan Mar 2016 #38
Anonymous Sources noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #39
Thank you MM for that unusually (for you!) forceful response Hekate Mar 2016 #41
K an R riversedge Mar 2016 #8
I was surprised at that number. Ash_F Mar 2016 #14
msnbc.com is reporting about 12 mythology Mar 2016 #18
She should be concerned if it is 1. Vinca Mar 2016 #19
Move from the investigator phase to the prosecutor phase. nt TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Skwmom Mar 2016 #22
The 150 number was reported a couple of months agon in reletation to the Clinton Foundation/SOS Skwmom Mar 2016 #23
I have to admit TeddyR Mar 2016 #27
lol Jennylynn Mar 2016 #29
There are 2 separate FBI investigations jfern Mar 2016 #28
Right...read somewhere they added agents to invesrigate the Clinton Foundation. Punkingal Mar 2016 #33
NBC News: Federal sources - it's more like, about 12. Bill USA Mar 2016 #40
I think that's disgraceful renate Mar 2016 #42
One day they are pro-HRC the next pro-Bernie....n/t blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #44
If "fewer than 50" FBI agents are investigating her, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #52
The interviews are getting ready to start.. mymomwasright Mar 2016 #53

Response to mcar (Reply #1)

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
4. Please do not imply that another DUer is
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:52 AM
Mar 2016

any kind of Nazi. That image is symbolic of Ireland and is available for use here on DU in the normal avatars. Such implications are ugly and inaccurate. Thank you for cooperating.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
17. I would like to comment on that person's
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:33 PM
Mar 2016

join date vs when they started posting. That there's a 5 year difference. There are tons of things that could be mentioned about that, but won't .

I find this whole attack shameful and whoever started it ought to be ashamed of themselves. Starting this nasty meme about long term DU'er reeks of bullying. It's disgraceful.



Cha

(297,029 posts)
45. Thank you, one voice.. i would like to comment on the stalker behavior on that poster's trying
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:56 AM
Mar 2016

to equate mcar's "Celtic Cross" with this..

"Whenever I see the Celtic Cross I'll mention that it is a symbol used by the Neo Nazis."

Thankfully he got a hide 6-1.. it should have been 7.

Maybe the next time it will be if he continues to do what he said he would.

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. Some people just don't learn.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:45 PM
Mar 2016
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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
43. You might want to consult the ADL on this
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:31 AM
Mar 2016

because, just like the Nazi symbol (which is also used by Indians, as in the Indian continent, and First Peoples, especially the Navajo) it does have that other meaning these days

http://www.adl.org/mobilehatesymbols/symbol-1.html

And there are more than one person who knows that. Pretending this is not the case is silly.

And yes, given current tensions, I would be careful. Not that the good folks at the News Hour were not punked... you know how fast I would have run if I saw that tattoo? Myself and my husband would have had an urgent breaking news story on the other side of the county to be brutally honest.

check the photo, not necessarily the story

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/17/pbs_airs_segment_with_trump_supporting_family_doesnt_notice_mothers_white_supremacist_tattoos/

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
46. They use the Odin's Cross version
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:34 AM
Mar 2016

Celtic Cross


Also known as: Odin’s Cross, Sun Cross, Wheel Cross

The white supremacist version of the Celtic Cross, which consists of a square cross interlocking with or surrounded by a circle, is one of the most important and commonly used white supremacist symbols. Although usually called a Celtic Cross by white supremacists, its origins date to the pre-Christian "sun cross" or "wheel cross" in ancient Europe. Norwegian Nazis used a version of the symbol in the 1930s and 1940s. After World War II, a variety of white supremacist groups and movements adopted the symbol. Today, this verson of the Celtic Cross is used by neo-Nazis, racist skinheads, Ku Klux Klan members and virtually every other type of white supremacist. It has also achieved notoriety as part of the logo of Stormfront, the oldest and largest white supremacist website in the world.

The Celtic Cross, as typically depicted, is a traditional Christian symbol used for religious purposes as well as to symbolize concepts like Irish pride. As such, it is a very common symbol and primarily used by non-extremists. Most renditions of the traditional Celtic Cross feature an elongated vertical axis (often accompanied by Celtic knotwork) that resembles that of other Christian crosses. Although white supremacists will occasionally use this version of the Celtic Cross, the overwhelming use of this version of the Celtic Cross is non-extremist and, in the absence of other hate symbols, does not denote white supremacy or racism.

It is the short "sun cross" version of the Celtic Cross, surrounded by a circle, that is more commonly used by white supremacists, although even here care must be taken always to judge it in context.

The lace Celtic Cross is an Irish Scots Irish Symbol


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mcar

(42,287 posts)
54. This!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:48 PM
Mar 2016

It's a bastardized version of the beautiful and historic cross that I love. I will not concede this lovely symbol to a bunch of racist a-holes. It is a crying shame that some on this site give them so much control.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
56. well said!!!!!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:36 PM
Mar 2016

that some feel we should concede to the lowest common denominator is disgusting.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
47. Well, thank you for your suggestion.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:01 AM
Mar 2016

However, the image used in that avatar is not any sort of neo-nazi symbol. That avatar is one of he many available to DUers on this website and is included as a symbol representing Ireland.

I'm sorry, but implying that a poster who uses that avatar is some sort of nazi is the height of disgusting behavior on DU. The posts doing so was hidden by juries here on two occasions. I believe that is enough discussion of this, actually.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
50. I am not implying a thing
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:01 PM
Mar 2016

My choice would be not to use it given current tensions on the website. Your mileage will of course vary

mcar

(42,287 posts)
55. Current tension on this website? Seriously?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:51 PM
Mar 2016

When is there not current tension about something? And, the "current tension" involving my avatar is ginned up "controversy" by a handful of posters. There is no current tension involving the Celtic Cross and unless and until Skinner removes it as a choice, I will display it as my avatar.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
57. concede to white supremacists? why would anyone do that?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:41 PM
Mar 2016

Why would anyone give them license to dictate 1000+ years of history that belongs to someone else? And you back them up and give them credence? Are you sure you don't want to walk that back?

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
3. So fewer than 50 FBI agents that sparkles everything.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:43 AM
Mar 2016

Even a misdemeanor will wreck Hillary's ambition.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
6. Less than 50 on the server issue, how many looked at the emails?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:58 AM
Mar 2016

I suspect the truth depends upon what recipe is being considered and how that recipe requires the numbers to be cooked.

My guess is there are also many people who looked at this from agencies other than the FBI.

As always when discussing stories that involve numbers a person must ask, what is the bakery product people are going for?

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
24. The whole stupid chain of events may have been started by Obama Blackberry envy.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:15 PM
Mar 2016

If someone had won in 2008 they too would have gotten a secure Blackberry like the President. The pay grade for Secretary of State was too low for a custom made chip. Next time you support paranoid legislation like the Patriot Act get a clue before you go full in with Blackberry envy and dash your chances for a pay upgrade.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
5. The original story was based on misinformation from
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:54 AM
Mar 2016

a Republican "lawmaker briefed by FBI Director James B. Comey." It never made any sense. It's another anonymous source sort of thing. Why we trust anonymous sources so often escapes me. No named source? Assume the story is wrong, every time.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
30. Parsing
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:02 PM
Mar 2016
The Washington Post issued a correction to both their initial story on March 29, explaining that they incorrectly reported "that 147 FBI agents had been detailed to the investigation" and that multiple U.S. law enforcement officials "have since told The Washington Post that figure is too high" and the actual number of "FBI personnel involved in the case is fewer than 50":


So if you are "detailed" to the investigation does that mean you are specifically assigned to that investigation? If so, there could very well be more FBI agents working the investigation who were not specifically "detailed" to that investigation. They are also in the closing stages of the investigation so I would assume you would have fewer agents working on the case now.

I guess we will all have to wait to see what happens. Hopefully the FBI will report on their investigation soon.

riversedge

(70,177 posts)
7. And several of those MisInformation articles were brought to DU--
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:58 AM
Mar 2016

gleefully. over and over-with hundreds of REC's.


I would like to see your OP posted several times--with hundreds of RECs(or kicks).

Thank you

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
11. If any story looks bad for Hillary, it will be posted
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:34 AM
Mar 2016

here without any attention paid to its source or questions about the details. This was just another example of that.

No named source? No problem. If it's negative about Hillary, it's gospel truth, obviously, according to some.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
26. The tentacles of that right wing conspiracy that both hates her and wants to derail her
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:49 PM
Mar 2016

can be found everywhere.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
35. Frankly, it's all bullshit.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:36 PM
Mar 2016

The FBI doesn't officially comment on its investigations. So anyone who is saying what's going on, but remains unnamed, is full of crap.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
37. I think you are saying
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:39 PM
Mar 2016

the 50 agents number is bullshit too because that number was given by anonymous sources, correct?

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
39. Anonymous Sources
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:16 PM
Mar 2016

Sadly the newspaper business has abused the process of giving anonymity to sources. They frequently give it to people who have an axe to grind or those trying to use anonymity to frame a narrative for political gain. Anonymity should only be given to people who truly are whistleblowers giving valuable information that the public has a right to know but who have to remain anonymous for fear of losing their job or worse yet being hounded by prosecutors.

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
41. Thank you MM for that unusually (for you!) forceful response
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:13 AM
Mar 2016

What a long strange trip this campaign has been.

Response to baldguy (Original post)

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
23. The 150 number was reported a couple of months agon in reletation to the Clinton Foundation/SOS
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:02 PM
Mar 2016

business. The WP said it was only for the emails. Not sure where that came from....
 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
27. I have to admit
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:50 PM
Mar 2016

I'd be much more relaxed if fewer than 50 FBI agents were investigating me as opposed to 150 or more. That certainly makes it seem like I did nothing wrong. Doesn't the FBI always devote about 50 agents to every investigation?

renate

(13,776 posts)
42. I think that's disgraceful
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:26 AM
Mar 2016

Inaccurate reporting about either candidate is wrong wrong wrong. The corrections never get as much ink as the original misinformation.

I'm a Bernie supporter, obviously, but I don't want him to win because of false information.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,656 posts)
52. If "fewer than 50" FBI agents are investigating her,
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:03 PM
Mar 2016

is that a good thing? Seems to me that the fact that there is an investigation at all is pretty worrisome regardless of how many agents are involved.

mymomwasright

(297 posts)
53. The interviews are getting ready to start..
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:13 PM
Mar 2016

They wouldn't waste the manpower, time, or money if they didn't "smell" something. These aren't Republicans on a "witch hunt", it's the FBI.

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