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Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:03 AM

Hillary Clinton, the candidate of We Can't Do Anything Because of Republicans

Hillary has explained why we can't have a single payer healthcare plan because Republicans will block it. So why would we even try?

Yesterday, in her ever evolving explanations of why she doesn't support free tuition at state colleges and universities, she explained to an audience in Wisconsin that states would have to cooperate and spend some of their own money in addition to what the federal government provided to them and Scott Walker is never going to spend $300 million in Wisconsin to support it!

Erin Burnett played Bernie the clip of Hillary's comments and he responded, yes the states would need to cooperate. And some states would, like California and many others. And if Wisconsin didn't, they would see a lot more of their kids go out of state to college and many would never come back.

Sounds like a pretty good answer to me. Do the Republicans want to lay down across the tracks saying no free college tuition in my state and have the federal money for it reallocated to states that are taking in their kids who migrate out?

Perhaps Hillary's campaign slogan should come from Nancy Reagan: "Just Say No!"

Does Hillary Clinton really have any supporters who aren't upper income? And if so, why?

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Reply Hillary Clinton, the candidate of We Can't Do Anything Because of Republicans (Original post)
BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 OP
Trust Buster Mar 2016 #1
Crabby Abbey Mar 2016 #10
Trust Buster Mar 2016 #13
Merryland Mar 2016 #2
BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #5
jwirr Mar 2016 #21
Trust Buster Mar 2016 #14
JaneyVee Mar 2016 #3
Chasstev365 Mar 2016 #4
BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #7
Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #26
My Good Babushka Mar 2016 #6
BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #8
My Good Babushka Mar 2016 #9
Scuba Mar 2016 #23
disillusioned73 Mar 2016 #11
BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #15
redstateblues Mar 2016 #12
Chasstev365 Mar 2016 #28
reddread Mar 2016 #16
Orsino Mar 2016 #17
BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #19
Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #27
DanTex Mar 2016 #18
Ino Mar 2016 #20
BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #22
Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #24
Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #25

Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:08 AM

1. It's just Congressional math. Obama has learned that the last 7 years. Why haven't you ?

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:26 AM

10. Obama never took on the oligarchy - unfortunately he melded into it.

 

He could have been out there changing minds like Bernie is doing. He could have called out the banks and had his justice department actually DO something to hold the banksters accountable. He could have had his DOJ really go after the KKKops who kill unarmed black children, women and men. He could have used his bully pulpit to expose all the fraud and corruption. He could have stood up against the TPP.

But he didn't. And HRC won't either. It's glaringly obvious. Now we just have a figurative canary singing in what remains of this republic.

Go Birdie Sanders!!!

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Response to Crabby Abbey (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:29 AM

13. Read Jane Mayer's excellent new book Dark Money. Obama was handcuffed.

 

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:08 AM

2. This dismal attitude

is so depressing & wrong-headed. It is also repeatedly echoed by those who say that getting things through Congress will be Bernie's insurmountable problem. That answer to this is that WE THE PEOPLE will PUSH our representatives to get Bernie's agenda through, come hell or high water, and if they don't like it we'll elect people who will. He ALWAYS reminds us that this is a joint effort. We WILL get our government back again.

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Response to Merryland (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:14 AM

5. If you believe like Hillary that nothing can be done, why even run?

Chelsea also helped to advance this dialogue with her assertion in audience that the Republicans will control the House until at least 2022 after the next census. So get used to it.

Why would Democrats vote for these defeatists? Because Republicans are so bad, but they're inevitable?

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:53 AM

21. The House is that way because of gerrymandering but that

does not mean we let that stop us. One of my reasons for wanting Bernie instead of Hillary is because even if he cannot get things through Congress at least he will not be working with them on things like NAFTA, TPP, TIPP ect.

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Response to Merryland (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:30 AM

14. You don't have the numbers in Congress. Even Democrats would not support him fully.

 

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:09 AM

3. Hillary Clinton Rated Most Truthful Candidate from Politifact.

 

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:11 AM

4. No We Can't!

 

It's worse than that: there is a patronizing "Oh you silly People" quality when she arrogantly dismisses citizens actually expecting the government to improve their lives. It reminds me of Margaret Thatcher.

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Response to Chasstev365 (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:16 AM

7. That pie in the sky Bernie keeps telling you people you should have hope!

I'm here to tell you that you shouldn't!

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Response to Chasstev365 (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:42 AM

26. Come on, The Adults know that the best use of taxpayer money is to subsidize large corporations.

 

You silly peons just want rainbows and ponies, like affordable education. Grow up.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:15 AM

6. If another Democratic president is elected

even Republicans will have to acknowledge that the voters want progressive, liberal changes. The electorate is pretty angry already at the do-nothing, obstructionist, Congress. They'll have to compromise, they can't take another four years of intransigence.

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Response to My Good Babushka (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:18 AM

8. Having a President who actually used the Presidency as a Bully Pulpit might help

But it's easier to use the Republicans as an excuse, and as Chelsea reminded us, her Mom has worked well with Republicans like Tom DeLay and John McCain.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:21 AM

9. Exactly

G.W. Bush thumped around proclaiming a "mandate from the voters", even though there was pretty tenuous evidence for it, and he got a lot of democratic legislators to support his stupid policies because of it. Never underestimate the allure of power to legislators. Their attraction to it is why they sought out elected positions in the first place.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:15 AM

23. Bingo!

 

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:29 AM

11. Centrists (corporatists).. take your pick,

 

believe that the people will never realize this simple fact (see below)... and their job is to keep the people at bay.. the tide is turning though and I hope it is a sign of things to come..

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Response to disillusioned73 (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:33 AM

15. That is great

I don't have kids so don't see those kinds of movies. Glad to see one conveying a good message like that.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:29 AM

12. Bernie Sanders:The politician of "Promise Them Pie In The Sky" even when he knows he can't deliver

His campaign is all about stoking anger and promising things to a gullible electorate-It's a brilliant scheme really. It almost worked

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:46 AM

28. That's Right: Don't Even Try!

 

Let the military budget be over $500 billion a year, make sure ExxonMobil gets subsides, even though they make $40 billion in profit, and keep having college kids come out of school with a job a Starbucks and $ 80,000 of debt because to even attempt to address these issues would be "pie in the sky."

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:33 AM

16. because conservativsm is related to diminished cognitive function?

 

their may be a more accurate physically difficult anatomically explicit description.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:37 AM

17. Thank god we have a candidate like Clinton eager to prenegotiate with herself. n/t

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Response to Orsino (Reply #17)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:40 AM

19. It saves a lot of time

Running without an agenda lets her jump right into the graft on Day One.

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Response to Orsino (Reply #17)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:44 AM

27. She's a dove when it comes to fighting for quality-of-life issues for Americans, but, hey,

 

if there's a country with brown people in it that needs invading, Hillary the Hawk is all in!

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:38 AM

18. Bernie is the candidate of the magic asterisk. And the voters have thankfully rejected that.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:48 AM

20. What slays me...

is how everyone in this clip cheered wildly after Hillary vehemently rejected even debating about "some better idea that will never, ever come to pass!"



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Response to Ino (Reply #20)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:13 AM

22. Wow, she is still peddling that lie

That people won't be able to get healthcare under the existing system while a single payer healthcare plan is being debated, voted on, and hopefully put into place? Even having a debate shuts down the U.S. healthcare system? Is she that stupid, or does she think her followers are?

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Response to Ino (Reply #20)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:37 AM

24. Wow...simply mind boggling

"Let's hear it for my inferior ideas!!!"


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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:38 AM

25. Just transfer some of that Corporate Welfare money over to support education, Hill.

 

Oh, wait. You can't. That would piss off your buddies.

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