2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumUnacceptable that top 25 Hedge Fund Managers make more than all kindergarten teachers combined.
Gwhittey
(1,377 posts)astrophuss42
(290 posts)Is her son in law?
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)astrophuss42
(290 posts)Worked for Goldman Sachs for 8 years then opened his own firm.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)Just because he's one of the best I'm sure.
Chelsea's husband getting that 15% tax rate on "carried interest" probably helps them make the roughly $50,000 per month payments on their $10.5 million Manhattan apartment.
Does Hillary think we don't know this stuff when she yaps about hedge funds like she's going to do something about them, other than potentially doing more favors for them?
Recursion
(56,582 posts)What's the principle that violates?
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)And that rewards for service to humanity ought not be so overshadowed by rewards for greed in an industry that provides nothing of value to others.
That this needs to be explained to a fellow progressive is troubling.
Apologies if you were being sarcastic.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Child care and elder care is the most socially valuable service people can provide, but it's universally reimbursed at the minimum wage.
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)What is the socially valuable service in people who manage hedge funds and where does it rank in terms of social value compared to caring for children and elders?
And how does that square with the compensation each receives?
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Not everything in life is complex policies, regulations and formulas.
There are things that are morally and ethically wrong that we should not condone or encourage as a society.
Part of politics is simply expressing decent values and principles, and giving a public voice to that.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)without being reimbursed and I am glad someone is finally talking about it.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)that is not ok.
Would you be willing to subsidize them if they predict wrongly and lose more than all the KG teachers combined?
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)Since you are voting for her, you should be familiar with her platform.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Nobody says that if someone makes a good call they should not be rewarded.
But we have shifted the source of wealth and economic activity from actual productive work to financial shenanigans. And we have allowed far to much to go into the pockets of far too few for creating creative and elaborate con jobs.
Meanwhile those outside the charmed inner circle get screwed by the pressures that result -- including demand for short term profit, mergers and acquisitions that are just "growth for growth sake,"...............and the burden of debt that corporations take on to pay those con artists in fancy suits.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)A lot of new ideas will never come to market without billions invested by the finance industry.
When ordinary people buy shares in these companies, directly or via 401-Ks, they benefit from the growth as well. It is the closes we come to socialism. Bad ideas generally don't get funded but good ideas do (to each according to need) and people invest in the good ideas that are presented based upon their financial status (from each according to their ability.)
Yes, the people who put it all together make a lot of money but it is also a special skillset that anyone can acquire.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)We have made the economy a massive pyramid scheme. If I get time I will find several articles that explain it far better than I.
There is also a difference between reasonable rewards and the obscene fucking wealth the Vulture Class is amassing by ravaging the legitimate economy compared to people who actually contribute to society.
How many goddamn mansions does any one person need?....And the vulture class drives up the cost of living through gentrification as a side benefit.
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)Done properly one has the potential to affect every person on the planet and the other a select few.
If you truly don't understand, you should do some research on the negative impacts of income inequality to a democracy.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)lostnfound
(16,176 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)Just wondering. She really does have close ties to Wall Street. And oh yeah - Chelsea doesn't care about money.