2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAn observation about the NY primary...
speaking as somebody who grew up at the very far left of this map... There's a sort of unconscious tendency for non-NY-ers to think "New York City" when they think of NY, but it's a pretty big state, and 95% of it bears no resemblance to NYC per se, either culturally or politically. In fact, western NY much more resembles, say, Minnesota, or WI, (Swedes, dairy farming and all), than it does the east coast.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)it will be interesting...
phantom power
(25,966 posts)I don't even claim to know what it all means, but if somebody attempted to craft a political strategy, or political analysis, of New York, and only considered NYC, I feel pretty confident their models would be off.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Outside NYC you have basically a western extension of New England, the agricultural Midwest, the Rust Belt, and areas that resemble Montana and the Mountain States, with the eastern coastal on Long Island and a little bit of Canada and the Pacific Northwest thrown in.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)And upstate NY is a lot more like Pennsylvania and Ohio than it is like Minnesota. More Italians than Swedes.
/someone who has spent over a decade in both NY and Minnesota
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(68,868 posts)http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/NY.html
Florida is pretty diverse. So is Texas. Clinton somehow managed to scrape by there.
Bernie better guy himself an EZ Pass. Lots of ground to cover.
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CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Take It To'er! Bernie Will Campaign Like There Is No Tomorrow... The More Who See Him The Better Off We Are... He has the energy and stamina of a 40 year old... Former Track Star!
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)But I think upstate margins will be overwhelming for Sanders, the City will be very close, and LI/Westchester is the question.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Rural counties will go for Sanders and the upstate cities will be battlegrounds but they favor Hillary.
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(71,265 posts)carburyme
(146 posts)Fuhgettaboutit Bernie! ( Good luck to Bernie too)
Although Hillary will be banking on large Black/Hispanic population in NYC, her chief bulwark is in the rest of the state. I expect her to do great in places like Rochester, Syracuse, Buffalo, Westchester and Long Island.
Btw I'm new here, can I get a warm welcome?
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(68,868 posts)carburyme
(146 posts)Thank you. I love your posts, always educated, intelligent and well-balanced.
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(68,868 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)and to some degree still is. Upstate is Sanders' backyard.
Lots of Repubs but this is a closed primary. I'm upstate and the bumperstickers I see are either Trump or Sanders. There is no Clinton, Cruz or anything else.
Sanders people have been out since last year. Active and visible. No Clinton campaign at all.
A Sanders event tonight with an all ages Bernie look alike contest:
http://helsinkihudson.com/schedule.html#160330