Only one candidate has said Single Payer Healthcare will never come to pass. Let's not forget.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

Bernie's Better Idea will never come to pass if we elect Clinton apparently. So I don't care what Bernie said when Obama stonewalled any chance at public option. This speaks volumes about what kind of "progressive" Hillary is. We can't forget because she will change her positions like dust in the wind.

[merrily]

1. Only one SO FAR. Only a relative few Democrats started the DLC and

look how that turned out.

Once a powerful Democrat rings a bell like that, or like cutting or privatizing Social Security or Medicare, Republicans will NEVER allow that bell to be unrung. And other New Democrats will line up and "cave."

[upaloopa]

2. Please explain to me how Bernie would bring about single payer and when

You owe it to us to tell the whole story.

Don't just say Hillary said this or that. Tell us why she is wrong.

And don't give me that revolution stuff I want to know really how Bernie will do what Hillary says he can't!

How? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And I want to know when and not 'He is talking about it"

And not "other countries do it"

HOW? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bernie is 74, If he is re-elected he has 8 years to give us single payer. Given the make up of our country and government, HOW? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

3. Ah yes, I am supposed to be a fortune teller...

...Supposed to tell you how the future will play out...

The first step is saying yes I support Single Payer Healthcare... Not yelling defiantly, "No We Can't". What the hell kind of leader is that? Oh it is too hard so let us not even push for that policy... Give me a break.

[upaloopa]

4. You want people to vote for pie in the sky while you knock Hillary for telling the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is people like Hillary that will get things done while you all and Bernie will be still telling us fairy tales.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

6. It isn't pie in the sky when many other major countries have achieved it...

We need a leader who will inspire with bold policy agendas... who isn't afraid to stand toe to toe with Republicans and demand middle class Americans finally get their fair share.

[upaloopa]

8. There it is "other countries do it"

That is no plan

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

10. I didn't say it was a plan... That was a direct refute of your "pie-in-sky" LIE

[upaloopa]

13. I can't vote for somebody that says he will bring about single payer without giving me a

reasonable plan as to how it will happen.

And "other countries do it" and "we need a revolution" is not being honest with people.

[Ash_F]

7. By constantly marginalizing Republicans for their extremist positions until Dems get both chambers?

Universal healthcare polls with the majority of the public, therefore that is the center position. It is not a leftist position today. It is only going to get more popular with advocacy.

Not supporting it is a fringe position and politicians who don't will eventually lose their jobs. A strong advocate with a national pulpit is needed to hold them accountable.

https://morningconsult.com/2015/12/poll-majority-of-americans-favor-idea-of-single-payer-healthcare-system/

[upaloopa]

11. Well I must thank you for that because it is the first I've seen anyone talk in real terms.

To get anything we want we all have to get Dems in both chambers. That means we have to vote.

We need a national dialogue on health care and single payer needs to be really studied and all aspects using this country as the model find out what we need to know and understand.

[Ash_F]

14. Agreed.

I also expect it to take longer than this election cycle, and Sanders may not even live to see it.

But you can't win if you don't fight. And you have only lost when you decide to give up.

[upaloopa]

16. You can sell more people on single payer if they are given more information.

Attacking Hillary for saying it isn't going to happen soon is poor public relations

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

19. Lol nice spin...

She didn't say soon/now... She said it will "NEVER EVER COME TO PASS". Such an inspiring leader, going to the bargaining table with Repukes and starting at the halfway mark to what they want.

[jeff47]

12. Please explain to me how Clinton would get the Republicans to strengthen the ACA.

And don't give me that revolution stuff I want to know really how Bernie will do what Hillary says he can't!

By giving the approximately 40% of the electorate that does not bother to vote because "both sides are the same" enough of a difference for them to vote again.

And I want to know when

Depends on how many status quo Democrats undermine the effort to differentiate us from the Republicans.

Given the make up of our country and government, HOW? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The "make up of our country" supports single payer by a significant majority.

The make up of our government does not, because our party is absolutely terrified of actually representing us. Hence that 40% that don't bother to vote.

Now, what's Clinton's plan to get the Republicans to change from 60+ votes to dismantle the ACA to voting to strengthen it?

[upaloopa]

15. I am not against single payer. I agree with Hillary that at this time it is not a realistic option.

We need to control the government so we can pass legislation and get support in the SCOTUS.

We need to control state legislatures too.

It takes all of us working together and all of us voting in the poor system we have to make it better.


I am sure Hillary's plan is to elect more Dems. That is why when I give to her campaign as I have done monthly since before she announced, I am also contributing to other Dem races. We are trying to build the government that single payer can have a chance in.

[jfern]

5. The funny thing is that Taiwan modeled their single-payer system after the US Medicare system

[TheDormouse]

9. K&R

[GoLeft2004]

17. K & R

[MisterP]

18. she's so happy and even bouncy just thinking about the concept: such GLEE

it's like she's announcing the murder of a dictator by proto-IS or something

and her "unconditionals" applauding prices 3x higher than the rest of the world for far less care, people trapped by their jobs and their employers exploitive or fighting to unload them, holding off on scrips and surgeries for years, unable to leave their parents

they're APPLAUDING