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Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:24 PM Mar 2016

Clinton: I hope Sanders joins ranks when I'm nominee

Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton said she hopes rival Bernie Sanders will join ranks when she claims the party’s nomination, despite repeated refusals from the Vermont senator to talk about backing her.

“I believe that I will be the Democratic nominee,” Clinton said in an interview on MSNBC’s “The Rachel Maddow Show” Wednesday night, according to a transcript of the interview. “I certainly hope that Sen. Sanders and his supports will join ranks, the way that I did with President Obama.”
She said she “worked her heart out” to get Obama elected after she ended her own presidential bid in 2008 because “that’s what I think you do when a primary is over.”


Aaaaand were back to implications of inevitability, and demands that Bernie and his supporters come to heel

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/274753-clinton-i-hope-sanders-joins-ranks-when-im-nominee
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Clinton: I hope Sanders joins ranks when I'm nominee (Original Post) Bubzer Mar 2016 OP
She worked to get Obama elected b/c of the deal they struck. n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #1
Ding ding ding!!! Bubzer Mar 2016 #10
Shhh. Be vewy vewy qwiet rock Mar 2016 #56
You're very right. Hillary does keep pulling out "Psychics" abilities to forcast herself a win. Bubzer Mar 2016 #60
Define "worked" please. revbones Mar 2016 #21
Um, she stopped trashing him? dchill Mar 2016 #55
What deal was that? democrattotheend Mar 2016 #52
I think a deal was made to get her to drop out of the primary Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #101
This message was self-deleted by its author imari362 Mar 2016 #57
n/t means no text catnhatnh Mar 2016 #67
Completely made up, Obama held all the cards. joshcryer Mar 2016 #91
Nominee or parolee? n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #2
I'm thinking the latter of the two. Bubzer Mar 2016 #8
She's rather presumptuous with her 'when' Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #64
Bernie will fall in line. Of that I have no doubt. Some of his supporters....nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #3
Oh I have no doubt she would be screeching for Bernie to come to heel... if... she won. Bubzer Mar 2016 #6
Call it what you will. He will fall in line. Then the bros will be screeching. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #14
LOL... she's unelectable. She'd never win the GE. She's already alienated many Bernie supporters. Bubzer Mar 2016 #17
Your opinion. Regardless, Bernie will fall in line. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #20
ROFL - to cute to say something is just someone else's opinion, then throw your opinion out there.. revbones Mar 2016 #22
Nice thing is, within a few months we will know. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #25
On that, at least, we can agree... Bubzer Mar 2016 #27
Is that another opinion? rofl revbones Mar 2016 #29
... Bubzer Mar 2016 #39
"Bernie will fall in line" Your opinion. Bubzer Mar 2016 #24
"Fall in line..." Madam Mossfern Mar 2016 #99
I'm glad it's women and POC so will be mattering most to Dems in Novemember... bettyellen Apr 2016 #105
What's with Bros crap? KPN Mar 2016 #40
... LexVegas Mar 2016 #44
Bernie may support her...But he aint going to "fall in line" Armstead Mar 2016 #26
I expect his enthusiastic support and hard-core stumping with a smile on his face auntpurl Mar 2016 #30
We'll see....Bernie is constitutionally incapable of hiding his true feelings or opinions Armstead Mar 2016 #31
We will see, in that you are correct. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #33
Hmm...not a very presidential quality, is it? auntpurl Mar 2016 #34
He can be diplomatic to an extent...He has proven that by his restraint in this campaign Armstead Mar 2016 #38
Lol! "Fall in line."!!!!???? KPN Mar 2016 #36
Of course not nichomachus Mar 2016 #80
Nah Kalidurga Mar 2016 #4
Exactly right! Bubzer Mar 2016 #18
"Hillary has stabbed Bernie in the back a couple of dozen times" Nasty and shameful comment. riversedge Mar 2016 #43
What do you expect from a racist guy who is a misogynist who is rude to his IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #86
Bull, she stood on stage at a debate and told bare faced lies about him. Kentonio Apr 2016 #112
Joining ranks? TrueDemVA Mar 2016 #5
This the deal Bernie for AG Skink Mar 2016 #7
Bernie isn't a lawyer; he can't be AG. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #12
Maybe he will for the sake of "unity" or whatever. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #9
Yeah, we've got a phrase for this back home. VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #117
As mama always says...Worry about yourself. That should keep you busy. peace13 Mar 2016 #11
Worry about yourself... TeeYiYi Mar 2016 #45
That little one is gonna be a hand full! Thanks! peace13 Mar 2016 #62
Can't join the ranks in favor of war and fracking and cluster bombs and the TPP and djean111 Mar 2016 #13
he won't sell out to her Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #15
I don't think Bernie want's to be SOS or run for president Autumn Mar 2016 #16
Bwahahaha....... 99Forever Mar 2016 #19
What do you expect her to say? carburyme Mar 2016 #35
I find her fantasizing hilarious. 99Forever Mar 2016 #96
The FBI investigation should disqualify her Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #23
Implying that he might not, meaning that he can't be trusted. n/t Orsino Mar 2016 #28
I think he will hollowdweller Mar 2016 #32
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #37
Fall in line with what?? B2G Mar 2016 #41
Why should liberals join ranks with a conservative? [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2016 #42
Why does Hillary and her supporters think she's an acceptable choice after Bernie? Dawgs Mar 2016 #46
This is why the cut n' paste is such bullshit, but it feeds the irrational hatred. If you watched R B Garr Mar 2016 #47
Oh please... Bubzer Mar 2016 #48
Oh, please yourself. Clinton didn't say that Bernie should drop out. Yes or No, did you R B Garr Mar 2016 #68
Did you notice the part where I said "Clinton said he should drop out"? Me neither. Bubzer Mar 2016 #84
Oh, welcome to DU yourself from your 2015 join date..... R B Garr Mar 2016 #87
They're "allowed" to say whatever they like. And they'll have to deal with the consequences. Bubzer Mar 2016 #89
More Reality: She has 2.6 Million more popular votes and leads in delegates. R B Garr Mar 2016 #90
Even more reality; She only leads by 228 delegates, which can easily be wiped out in either NY or CA Bubzer Mar 2016 #92
More reality: Bernie needs Hillary supporters more, so act smug all you like R B Garr Mar 2016 #98
She doesn't need to worry DetroitSocialist83 Mar 2016 #49
How DARE she think she's going to win!!!! JoePhilly Mar 2016 #50
It does seem that she and her minions are jumping the gun LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2016 #95
In a speech the other day, Bernie said he was going to win. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #97
This is what it mans to be for a party rather than a cult of personality Tarc Mar 2016 #51
Jeebus Amaril Mar 2016 #81
"Sanders Leads Clinton By 6 Points In Wisconsin" dchill Mar 2016 #53
Bernie has already said he will support her if she wins democrattotheend Mar 2016 #54
No. And that's troubling. nt Nyan Mar 2016 #103
That is untrue. She said it agains last night on Maddow. LIES. bettyellen Apr 2016 #106
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #58
I consider that to be typical campaign rhetoric. meh. Talk's cheap. Hiraeth Mar 2016 #59
Some political consultant somewhere loyalsister Mar 2016 #75
Her arrogance is nauseating. Zen Democrat Mar 2016 #61
lol.. I just posted the same thing. dana_b Mar 2016 #74
Not sure I like her "tone." EndElectoral Mar 2016 #63
Ha! I sure don't like it. Maybe if she would tone it down and disappear. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #79
IF, you entitled elitist, IF. eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #65
lets translate...joining ranks is code restorefreedom Mar 2016 #66
humpty dumpty is not getting put back together this time flobee1 Mar 2016 #93
what you said. restorefreedom Mar 2016 #100
LOLOL @ she worked her HEART out to get Obama elected..... Avalux Mar 2016 #69
Hubris. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #70
Bernie endorsing her won't be genuine Prism Mar 2016 #71
So Bernie will fake it? I thought he was incapable of pretense. bettyellen Apr 2016 #107
You want it both ways Prism Apr 2016 #110
+1 B Calm Apr 2016 #111
No, it is customary to support the nominee and he'd bettyellen Apr 2016 #116
Should've thought about this before the LIES, THEFT, and DIRTY TACTICS began, Hilly. AzDar Mar 2016 #72
such arrogance dana_b Mar 2016 #73
We will be very gracious and welcoming to Hillary's folks lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #76
I do, too. RandySF Mar 2016 #77
Bernie will support the nominee, and so will true Democrats. n/t Lil Missy Mar 2016 #78
As likely as the next Ice Age hitting before summer....nt Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #82
In 2008, only 48% of Hillary voters said they would support Obama as nominee Land Shark Mar 2016 #83
Ever notice the differences in the way the candidates perceive their campaigns? lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #85
I have bad news for you mythology Mar 2016 #88
#feelthemath BainsBane Mar 2016 #94
LOL...You're going to put your faith in a conservative bastion? Suppose I shouldn't be surprised. Bubzer Mar 2016 #104
Princeton University is now a conservative bastion? BainsBane Apr 2016 #108
Umm... of the ivy-league colleges, Princton is only less conservative than Dartmouth. Bubzer Apr 2016 #114
Oh yeah, right .... Autumn Colors Mar 2016 #102
cough *bulshit* cough....n/t pantsonfire Apr 2016 #109
There was a time when talk like that was considered sexist hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #113
Clinton will work with Wall St., the MSM, and the DNC to defeat Bernie in the GE Zorra Apr 2016 #115

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
60. You're very right. Hillary does keep pulling out "Psychics" abilities to forcast herself a win.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:44 PM
Mar 2016

But, much like Elmer Fudd, she's not likely to get what she's hunting for.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
52. What deal was that?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

I don't think they made a deal for her to be SOS prior to the election. I remember reading that she was actually reluctant to accept the position and he had to push, saying something like "I need your help."

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
101. I think a deal was made to get her to drop out of the primary
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:31 PM
Mar 2016

in exchange for a top position in Obama's cabinet.

Response to Skwmom (Reply #1)

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
67. n/t means no text
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:13 PM
Mar 2016

beyond the top line. It is used when a reply is very short so that others don't click on the post only to find an empty body...Also used is EOM, for end of message.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
17. LOL... she's unelectable. She'd never win the GE. She's already alienated many Bernie supporters.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:33 PM
Mar 2016

She's already sunk herself.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
22. ROFL - to cute to say something is just someone else's opinion, then throw your opinion out there..
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:38 PM
Mar 2016

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
27. On that, at least, we can agree...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:40 PM
Mar 2016

Though with all Hilly's moles being uncovered, I wouldn't have very high hopes, were I you.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
105. I'm glad it's women and POC so will be mattering most to Dems in Novemember...
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 12:00 AM
Apr 2016

Maybe the bros will get a clue then.

KPN

(15,635 posts)
40. What's with Bros crap?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:53 PM
Mar 2016

Can we at least cut that piece out? It's divisive and nothing more. Maybe if it were factual I would feel differently ... not sure.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
30. I expect his enthusiastic support and hard-core stumping with a smile on his face
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:42 PM
Mar 2016

Just as I would expect from Hillary if Bernie were to win.

He better be smiling from ear to ear, kissing babies, and proclaiming far and wide just how much he is loving Hillary and her platform. It's exactly what she would do for him, and what ANY Democratic candidate should do for whomever wins the nomination after a primary.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
34. Hmm...not a very presidential quality, is it?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:45 PM
Mar 2016

Let's hope he can hide his true feelings and opinions when meeting with important foreign heads of state who he personally can't stand.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
38. He can be diplomatic to an extent...He has proven that by his restraint in this campaign
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:48 PM
Mar 2016

But he doesn't lie or throw bullshit.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
86. What do you expect from a racist guy who is a misogynist who is rude to his
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:57 PM
Mar 2016

wife - I've lost track of the smears. Oh, and he can't do math.

Please note because despite the David Brock generated smears, he seems like a pretty feisty and classy guy - even if he campaigns like he's from Brooklyn/not like he's a Senator!

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
112. Bull, she stood on stage at a debate and told bare faced lies about him.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:08 AM
Apr 2016

That was what was 'nasty and shameful', that and then sending her own daughter out to tell the same lies to the press.

TrueDemVA

(250 posts)
5. Joining ranks?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:28 PM
Mar 2016

Nope. The establishment ensured I will not be joining those ranks. We are just sheep to them and need to fall in line no matter how much they work against us.

No Hillary, this voter will not follow you or your corporate owners. No more DINOs!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,576 posts)
12. Bernie isn't a lawyer; he can't be AG.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:30 PM
Mar 2016

I'd rather he stay in the Senate - that is, if he's not the president.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,576 posts)
9. Maybe he will for the sake of "unity" or whatever.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:29 PM
Mar 2016

That is, of course, assuming she gets the nomination, which is not in the bag at this point. However, assuming she does, and assuming Bernie then agrees to endorse her, she still has to figure out how to get the backing of his supporters. But after months of insulting and condescending to Sanders supporters by characterizing them as a bunch of extreme left-wing, young, naive, privileged, sexist, racist white male "bros" who just want ponies and unicorns and free stuff, that might be a tall order.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
13. Can't join the ranks in favor of war and fracking and cluster bombs and the TPP and
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:30 PM
Mar 2016

increased H-1B visas, and such. maybe those things are okay with Hillary and her supporters, or they just don't give a shit, winning is the only thing, but I cannot do it.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
15. he won't sell out to her
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:32 PM
Mar 2016

He will still be the senator from vermont and wiil continue working for the people, not against them.

IF he doesn't win. I'm feeling like i did back in 2008, just before the media had caught on to the fact that Obama was now in the lead..

carburyme

(146 posts)
35. What do you expect her to say?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:48 PM
Mar 2016

I don't find her statement funny.

She thinks she's going to be the nominee. And she has good reasons to feel positive. No matter what the math is Sanders said so many times he thinks he's gonna win the nomination, I say, go Bernie!

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
96. I find her fantasizing hilarious.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:32 PM
Mar 2016

The wheels came off the Inevitable Express when Bernie announced. And just like every other campaign she has been in, her number keep going down, down, down, till she hit rock bottom. Must be embarrassing to finally realise that the better people know you, the more dishonest and despicable they find you.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
23. The FBI investigation should disqualify her
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:38 PM
Mar 2016

from getting the nomination. If it doesn't, that proves the party is just as corrupt as she is.

But that collusion still doesn't provide any reason to support a law breaker for President. It's not gonna happen.

Some Dems just won't vote for someone who flouts the law, and feels herself to be above it.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
32. I think he will
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:44 PM
Mar 2016

I support Bernie.

I think he would think Hillary would be able to move the agenda he favors forward more than Trump.

I think at least for me, my issue with Hillary has more to do with sincerity than the policies she is proposing.

Speaking domestically here, but if she makes good on some of the ideas she has run up the flagpole she would be a great president for the country.

Foreign policy wise she's much more troubling for me. I don't like her approach and think she was a piss poor SOS, however she would be 100% better than any republican.

I'll vote for her in the general if she wins. However as fickle as young voters are I hope they don't set out the election if Bernie loses because we really could use 16 years of a democratic president and hopefully at least some of those congress, to put the GOP back in their place. They have had so much power for so long when dems win some of their rhetoric and actions actually threaten our democracy by dividing the country so much.

I would hope that Bernie would support her if she wins, but not become part of her administration, because if she turns right and abandons the working class for the donor class after she wins and gets us in another war it would make him look bad. Where if he's still in the Senate he will be freer to oppose or call out some of that sort of stuff.

Response to Bubzer (Original post)

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
46. Why does Hillary and her supporters think she's an acceptable choice after Bernie?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:09 PM
Mar 2016

Many of his supporters have no interest having her as the President. They're not connected to the party. They do not think she will be better than the Republicans. They do not think of them as one being slightly better than the other. They want real change. They don't wan't Obama's third term. They don't care if Trump wins over Hillary because they don't think she will change their lives more than Trump would...good or bad.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
47. This is why the cut n' paste is such bullshit, but it feeds the irrational hatred. If you watched
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:10 PM
Mar 2016

the ENTIRE segment, Clinton herself said that in 2008, she stayed in until the end so she certainly would expect Sanders to stay in as well. She said it was our process and they are following the process.

The reality is that she is ahead in delegates and the popular vote, so naturally that is just a common sense conclusion that she will be the nominee. But, of course, only Sanders is supposed to be quoted or taken in context. Everything Clinton says, not so much.

Anyway, it looks like more people reject these types of dishonest representations as evidenced by the turnout in Clinton's favor.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
48. Oh please...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:20 PM
Mar 2016

"But, of course, only Sanders is supposed to be quoted or taken in context" Are you seriously making this your argument? Have you bothered to see how many of Her surrogates regularly say he should drop out of the race? That he should just quit? Have you seen even once that Her has firmly denounced such talk? She knows damn well what's happening in her campaign and with her surrogates.

By refusing to denounce their actions, she is tacitly agreeing with them. You'll have to forgive me if I refuse to give her credit where it's not due... and hold her feet to the fire where its deserved.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
68. Oh, please yourself. Clinton didn't say that Bernie should drop out. Yes or No, did you
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:15 PM
Mar 2016

watch the entire segment? Or did you find some anti-Clinton article and just run with it.

And it figures that you would demonize people for stating simple truths. That seems to be the hallmark of the Sanders strategy along with his supporters. Reality must not be discussed. Only the alternate universe that is created by you can be discussed. Even Rachel Maddow and now Thom Hartmann are being thrown under the bus because they dare to discuss the reality of BERNIEMATH.

And the reality of BERNIEMATH shows that he's mostly about showboating now. The math is not on his side. Sorry that reality does not fit your fantasies of what reality should be.

But Clinton did not say he should drop out. And thinking people can tell the difference between reality and these cut n' paste attacks on her that fit narrow talking points just to demonize her. Enough is enough.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
84. Did you notice the part where I said "Clinton said he should drop out"? Me neither.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:51 PM
Mar 2016

On the other hand, did you notice the part where I said she's well aware of what her surrogates are doing... and is allowing it to continue? I ask, but the answer is obviously no. You want to pretend like you're unfamiliar how politics run? Fine... I'll treat you that way: Welcome to DU, stick around and you might learn a thing or two. Lesson number one: Candidates are very very well informed as to what their campaign is doing! Especially when it works to their benefit! This is particularly true in the case of one Hillary Rodham Clinton... who is extremely well experienced in playing dirty-pool in the political arena.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
87. Oh, welcome to DU yourself from your 2015 join date.....
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:10 PM
Mar 2016


People are allowed to talk about simple truths. Sorry that is upsetting to you. I see that Rachel Maddow is thrown under the bus and Thom Hartmann also for stating those simple truths about the election results. Maybe you should call Russian TV and tell Thom Hartmann to quite discussing BernieMath. It's a primary race, so people will talk about the results.

That has nothing to do with what she said about Bernie staying in the race or unifying behind the primary winner. Yet this whole thread is denigrating her with vile comments that have nothing to do with what she actually said. It's interesting you bring up how politics are run, when the conventional wisdom and common sense is that parties quit bashing themselves in the primary to save their ammo for their true opponents. That's just common sense. It's common sense and reality. That's all it is. But apparently even that is shunned if it doesn't conform to Bernistas. Instead, people are just demonized more because they dare to talk about what's ahead. Reality is here to stay, unfortunately, and talking about it is going to happen. No one is evil for doing it.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
89. They're "allowed" to say whatever they like. And they'll have to deal with the consequences.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:50 PM
Mar 2016

I don't accept you as any kind of authority on common sense....but hey, if you want to talk reality, lets get down to brass tacks, shall we?

Hillary is flat out unelectable. Can't happen. Absolutely can't. Why, you ask? Well, since you're new here, I'll tell you... Her and her supporters and surrogates are doing a bang-up job with all those ad hominems against Bernie and his supporters.

In fact, they've done such a great job, that about 40% of the democratic party has declared, openly, they will NEVER vote for hilly. She certainly wont get a single conservative vote... they actually do hate her. So, she needs every Bernie supporter to be able to win the GE... and there's a sizable chunk that she'll never reach. And that, my dear R B Garr, is a reality that is here to stay.

Sorry that is upsetting to you.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
90. More Reality: She has 2.6 Million more popular votes and leads in delegates.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:54 PM
Mar 2016

That is reality. She won the popular vote in 2008. Reality. Trying to demonize people for talking about election results is just silly and controlling behavior. Anti-Hillary spam is not the answer to everything.

Every one in the history of elections has talked about elections results. Only Bernistas try to shush people from talking about things that the rest of the universe talks about and every single candidate since the beginning of elections talks about. Talking election strategies is nothing evil. I know you want it to be, but it's not.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
92. Even more reality; She only leads by 228 delegates, which can easily be wiped out in either NY or CA
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:10 PM
Mar 2016

That 2.6 million votes can be wiped away in just a few states... or, once again, either NY or CA. And more importantly, most of that 2.6 million are from southern states that will NEVER VOTE FOR HER. She just can't win without Bernie supporters...and she's just not going to be able to get enough of em to win the GE... meaning she's just not electable. That is reality.

And that's foregoing the inevitable legal trouble with her e-mails. I guess she'll be inevitable at something after all.

But hey, you can believe whatever you like, cause, as of right now, I don't give a shit what you have to say.

So long!

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
98. More reality: Bernie needs Hillary supporters more, so act smug all you like
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:34 PM
Mar 2016

but no way he wins without courting her supporters which obviously constitute a far greater majority than his. 2.6 MILLION more to date, so looks like I get the last laugh.

And LMAO if you haven't been watching the absolute cluster-f*kk on the GOP side. How utterly self-serving and just pure bullshit that you think they pose any threat after watching them absolutely debase each other. You funny!

Oh, and Bernie is being INVESTIGATED by the FEC, so looks like he's got legal trouble as well. Hey, that sounds like the absolute nonsense anti-Democrats sling about Clinton, so live with it.

And who cares about your dramatized Debbie Downer on Democrats bullshit. Sick of this phony shit!

95. It does seem that she and her minions are jumping the gun
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:31 PM
Mar 2016

or in this case, jumping the shark.

When she ran against Obama she didn't withdraw and give her support until June, yet here we are still in March and they're playing the "inevitable" card. Somebody's worried about something...

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
97. In a speech the other day, Bernie said he was going to win.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:33 PM
Mar 2016

In an interview the other day, Bernie said he was going to win.

Hillary says it ... and team Bernie craps its pants.

Tarc

(10,472 posts)
51. This is what it mans to be for a party rather than a cult of personality
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:25 PM
Mar 2016

surrounding an individual.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
81. Jeebus
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:33 PM
Mar 2016

Stop it with the cult of personality thing already. The same thing could be easily said about Hillary supporters IF you were to judge them by the roving band of angry, snarky, condescending drones that show up in these threads (the same ones. every time.).

People support Bernie because they believe in his platform. People support Hillary because they believe in her platform.

Like it or not, you are a surrogate for Hillary on this board, and you are NOT winning anyone over with posts like this..............or is that perhaps your plan?

Response to Bubzer (Original post)

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
75. Some political consultant somewhere
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:12 PM
Mar 2016

Probably told her that military metaphors and bluster are intended to appeal to men by bolstering perception of "toughness" her supporters love. If they expect to win over new voters, I think they probably misjudged how much many people dislike arrogance and war.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
74. lol.. I just posted the same thing.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:09 PM
Mar 2016

it's true though. It is sickening.

Maybe she'll feel a bit of that after she eats crow with a slice of humble pie.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
66. lets translate...joining ranks is code
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:11 PM
Mar 2016

for being bought off or assimilated.

bernie is not interested in a position in the corrupt clinton regime and cannot be bought.

and his supporters are not interested in being part of the collective. we will all have to make our own decisions about whom to vote for and campaign for and fight for.

humpty dumpty is not getting put back together this time.

flobee1

(870 posts)
93. humpty dumpty is not getting put back together this time
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

I like that comment.

I am tired of corporations buying politicians
I am tired of voting against sombody
I am tired of having to choose the lesser of 2 evils

Its not just me that feels this way
Things must change, now
Not possibly next election
Our politicians are corrupt, and it has to stop
This election, not 8 years from now
In 8 years, it will not be worth saving



restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
100. what you said.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:26 PM
Mar 2016

and yeah, we cant wait 8 years. no way they ever will let someone like bernie get this close again. the whole fricking thing will be decided by superdelegates next time.

its time to grab the ring or democracy as we know it dies


Avalux

(35,015 posts)
69. LOLOL @ she worked her HEART out to get Obama elected.....
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:23 PM
Mar 2016

what a crock! She was reticent; in fact, Bill even refused to endorse Obama after he won the nomination.

I remember how horrible they were to Obama.

Liar.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
71. Bernie endorsing her won't be genuine
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:34 PM
Mar 2016

Have no doubt, he will do it if she's the nominee. But Sanders v Clinton isn't like Obama v Clinton. Obama and Clinton were pretty close on a lot of issues. Sanders is like liberal day to Clinton's neoconservative night.

He'll endorse her, and a lot of his supporters won't buy it. It will then become a "Just not Trump" campaign.

We'll see how that goes. I really have a hard time seeing a decent portion of Bernie supporters going, "Oh, well, let's vote for the corprocrat after all!"

She's in trouble.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
107. So Bernie will fake it? I thought he was incapable of pretense.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 12:07 AM
Apr 2016

Holy shit you guys are going to be disappointed .

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
110. You want it both ways
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:00 AM
Apr 2016

If he didn't endorse her, you'd be in a snit. If he does, then his integrity is shit.

Well, which is it?

I'm already disappointed. The election is just icing. But if you're comfortable, yaaaaay for you.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
116. No, it is customary to support the nominee and he'd
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:29 PM
Apr 2016

Look like a sour grapes asshole if he did not.
Aren't you a little obnoxious telling other people what they think? Obnoxious and incorrect.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
72. Should've thought about this before the LIES, THEFT, and DIRTY TACTICS began, Hilly.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:03 PM
Mar 2016

Hopefully, her supporters will get on board with the ONLY Progressive in the running...

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
76. We will be very gracious and welcoming to Hillary's folks
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:15 PM
Mar 2016

when Bernie wins.

As she used to say, "We will help you even if you didn't vote for us."

Land Shark

(6,346 posts)
83. In 2008, only 48% of Hillary voters said they would support Obama as nominee
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:39 PM
Mar 2016

SeE
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/06/exit-polls-half-of-clintons-supporters-wont-back-obama/

Obviously that eventually changed. But Hillary has been trying to prematurely claim victory literally since Iowa.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
85. Ever notice the differences in the way the candidates perceive their campaigns?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:56 PM
Mar 2016

The Clinton campaign is about "me" (My resume, My experience) while Bernie's is about us (Our movement, Our goals, Our vision)

Percieved attacks on the Clinton record or platform are also always personal; (misogyny, usually)

You don't get it, Hillary. It's not terribly important if Sanders himself "gets in line".

If you want our support, you could start with stopping the "racist berniebros" narrative.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
88. I have bad news for you
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:10 PM
Mar 2016

Billionaires pay an effective tax rate lower than nurses or truck drivers. That makes no sense at all. There has to be real tax reform and the wealthiest corporations will pay when I'm president."

Source: CBS News, "Democratic Debate Transcript: Clinton, Sanders, O'Malley in Iowa," cbsnews.com, Nov. 14, 2015

If it's so horrible for a candidate to say that they will be president, you need to get snippy at Sanders too. I mean otherwise there are a fair number of hypocrites in this thread.

BainsBane

(53,010 posts)
108. Princeton University is now a conservative bastion?
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 02:10 AM
Apr 2016

Since when?

It's math. Simple math. There is no right wing vs. left wing math. There is math that adds up and math that doesn't.

Bernie has 44% of the earned delegates, not 66%. It's cute how they only count votes for one week and not the two months of primaries before that. That site's like that unskewed polls shit nonsense that conned Mitt Romney out of major money. Whatever. Fantasy is obviously very important to you. Nothing I can do to convince you otherwise. I expect you'll be celebrating Bernie's inauguration next January while he and Jane or on vacation in St. Lucia. Reality won't make an appearance.



Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
114. Umm... of the ivy-league colleges, Princton is only less conservative than Dartmouth.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 10:32 AM
Apr 2016

And here I'll borrow your own words to use against you: Whatever. Fantasy is obviously very important to you. Nothing I can do to convince you otherwise.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
115. Clinton will work with Wall St., the MSM, and the DNC to defeat Bernie in the GE
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 10:50 AM
Apr 2016

if he is nominated.

Obviously. Just look at all the rotten, evil shit they have been throwing at Bernie since the moment he announced his candidacy

They will join ranks with Republicans to defeat Bernie and get Trump elected.

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