Who really interrupted Hillary's speech today?

[Cheese Sandwich]

Hillary Clinton claimed it was Bernie supporters and MSNBC repeated that as if it were a fact, but with no evidence, no interview from the protesters.

Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but how can MSNBC just repeat that claim without showing evidence?

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-quick-cuts/watch/sanders-supporters-interrupt-clinton-event-655915075535

[NWCorona]

1. She had that response ready in a millisecond

[grasswire]

19. yes, I did notice that.

It occurred to me that David Brock might have been the instigator.

[grossproffit]

132. Some people are much sharper than others.

Hillary is one of those people.

How's the email probe going?

[NWCorona]

134. I've always said Hillary was smart

But that doesn't invalidate my point.

We will find out very soon!

[HubertHeaver]

2. Potted plants.

[cherokeeprogressive]

51. Stoned Provocateurs?

[Snotcicles]

75. Of the BrockRovian speices. nt

[CorporatistNation]

153. Trying To Develop The "Victim" Card! Likely FALSE FLAG! It IS In Her Genes! She Can't Help Herself

Hillary demonstrating... FEAR AND DESPERATION!

[Kelvin Mace]

3. "how can MSNBC just repeat that claim without showing evidence? "

You are questioning the SOP of 21st Century "journalism"?

You're adorbs.

[Cheese Sandwich]

138. LOL

got it thanks.

[1StrongBlackMan]

4. Yeah ... It could have been a HRC false flag event.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

31. Wow. You speak the truth...

[1StrongBlackMan]

34. Perhaps, I should have posted this ...

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

45. Perhaps.

[Snotcicles]

78. You probably should have, the crowd she runs with makes it believable. nt

[1StrongBlackMan]

88. Oh really? HRC is, now, and somehow, responsible for ...

the delusions of others?

Alrighy, then!

[timmymoff]

139. Well she has somehow put people

under the delusion she is a democrat. I guess Zell Miller was a democrat also. So was Max Baucus. The right wing of the corporate left.

[riversedge]

110. yeah, anything percieved to be related to Hilary is negitive. Got it!

Sad. and beyond the pale. 'the crowd she runs with" Nasty and shameful of you to post this.

[Ken Burch]

140. Don't put it past Brock to arrange that.

Having Brock in HRC's campaign is the equivalent of Ed Muskie deciding to run again, and hiring Donald Segretti as his campaign manager.

[1StrongBlackMan]

157. Yeah ... Okay.

[geek tragedy]

5. gee, how unlike Sanders supporters nt

[SamKnause]

6. They don't want to listen.

What a joke.

They have been listening and they don't support your

'No We Can't' vision for this country.

[azurnoir]

7. sounded like it was part of her speech

[geek tragedy]

9. the Bernie hecklers were part of her speech? nt

[Cheese Sandwich]

10. Why would you say it was "Bernie hecklers" without some evidence?

[geek tragedy]

17. milennials chanting "she wins, we lose"

ya, real hard to tell whose supporters those are.

[azurnoir]

23. millennials? you know this? sounded like it may have been mainly women

but without actually seeing them who knows but Hillary did have a response team at the ready

[geek tragedy]

27. yes, all events have security. hecklers and those

seeking to shut this kind of event down generally get shown the door

the voices were very young sounding

national press is reporting it as Benie people

and, y'all kind of have this reputation

[azurnoir]

30. all events? Hillary has a team of hecklers?

[geek tragedy]

32. all such events, ok if you're going to split hairs

you should pick a script, though:

1) the poor hecklers were being oppressed or

2) no way were those Bernie supporters, we're always respectful and inclusive

[azurnoir]

35. no script needed here scripts are for kidz like the young people standing behind Hillary who shouted

down the other group

[geek tragedy]

37. lol, so you're sticking with the line that the poor hecklers

are the victims here, oppressed by the people who were there to listen to the candidate speak.

[1StrongBlackMan]

36. It's so, so sad ... Isn't it?

[cosmicone]

71. It is never the fault of Unicorn J. Sparklepony n/t

[Cheese Sandwich]

25. So in other words you have no evidence at all.

[geek tragedy]

29. national press is all reporting it that way.

Very possibly because they had Bernie t-shirts on or something like that.

[Cheese Sandwich]

33. The national press is just repeating Hillary's claim as a fact without checking

Why is the national press repeating Hillary's claims as fact without showing any evidence?

[geek tragedy]

40. it's a conspiracy. just like everything is nt

[Cheese Sandwich]

61. It's not a conspiracy theory to say the mainstream media are liars who kiss up to power

BTW

[geek tragedy]

74. that's a conspiracy theory if you're claiming they all agreed

to lie about this.

NEW YORK --
Hillary Clinton was giving a spirited defense of her campaign proposals and her lead in the Democratic primaries when she was disrupted by a group of Bernie Sanders supporters ahead of her home state's primary.

A few minutes into Clinton's remarks on the campus of Purchase College, about 20 Sanders supporters shouted, "If she wins, we lose," and began walking out.

AP report

http://abc7ny.com/politics/hillary-clinton-faces-disruptive-bernie-sanders-supporters-in-new-york/1270432/

[Cheese Sandwich]

81. I'm demanding evidence. Real protesters generally video tape their actions and post it to the web.

All you're saying is that whatever the MSM report is automatically true and anybody who questions it is a conspiracy theorist.

All I'm saying is that that the MSM are a bunch of liars who constantly kiss the asses of people with money and power and they often repeat Hillary Clinton's statements as facts without presenting any evidence.

[geek tragedy]

82. so you're in the "deny it was Sanders supporters"

camp.

Not in the "Hillary should have made them tea and baked them cookies' camp as others are.

[Cheese Sandwich]

84. No I'm in the "Show evidence" camp

[geek tragedy]

86. first hand accounts are evidence. nt

[Cheese Sandwich]

89. I'm not convinced.

It seems like the media are simply repeating Clinton's claims without justification. They aren't justifying or explaining why they think these people are connected to the Sanders campaign.

I would like to see a video or blog post from the protesters where they explain their connection to the Sanders campaign. Then I would believe it.

[geek tragedy]

90. the AP reported that there were 20, so obviously

they got an eyeball on them.

Most plausible scenario here is that they were wearing Bernie gear.

[Cheese Sandwich]

93. That's not obvious at all. They could just repeating Clinton's talking point

[redstateblues]

133. guess they got tired of Trump rallies

[geek tragedy]

136. Staring into the face of the apocalypse is exhausting.

[dchill]

113. I am a Bernie supporter, and I don't own a Bernie shirt.

Is the opposite impossible?

(The correct answer is "No.&quot

[DisgustipatedinCA]

142. "Very possibly" means "I'm making this up right now", for anyone who wasn't aware.

Or something like that.

[geek tragedy]

143. so you think everyone is lying about it being Bernie people who protested Clinton?

giant media conspiracy?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

144. I think I meant precisely what I said. Concision: use it or lose it.

[geek tragedy]

145. You maliciously and falsely claimed I was making something up

when I specifically did not say it happened, but rather that it was possible that's what happened.

Anyways, we have proof that it was college kidz protesting Clinton, so enough is enough.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

147. The point stands. See you.

[geek tragedy]

148. Conjecture is not the same thing as lying.

Nobody taught you that?

In any event, I was 100% right and all those trying to deny it were wrong.

[redstateblues]

129. Kinda like when BSS have no proof of corruption?

But you smear away

[azurnoir]

12. No her comment but if you insist .........

[geek tragedy]

14. what comment, this thread is about the Bernie people heckling her nt

[azurnoir]

18. oh it's your thread? you have 2 DU user names?

[geek tragedy]

22. huh? none of your posts are very coherent.

the topic of the OP is Clinton being heckled.

[azurnoir]

26. coherent enough for you to reply to them

[CentralCoaster]

8. Totally staged, IMO. Audience seemed to go into "I'm with her" chants too easily.

That response didn't seem at all to be spontaneous.

"Bernie People"?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

15. Staged and the MSM of course lap it up

[marions ghost]

21. I wouldn't be at all surprised

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[MisterP]

122. evidently Clinton "crowds" and delegates are instructed to start chanting

in case of any interruption

human wall optional

[Trust Buster]

11. Perhaps it's because Sanders supporters say the same thing on this forum every day.

[cherokeeprogressive]

57. Every day huh? Wow them's a lotta days.

[RufusTFirefly]

13. A candidate who spent $630K to buy Facebook likes for the State Dept....

... would never do something that cynical and calculated.

[arcane1]

28. $630K of TAXPAYER MONEY, I might add. That's you and I paying for that crap n/t

[RufusTFirefly]

69. Indeed. I left out that crucial detail so my post title would fit.

But it definitely bears mentioning. And repeating.

Also

Two different online audit tools say no more than 44 per cent of Hillary's 3.6 million Twitter fans are real people who participate in the platform

In other words, more than two million of Clinton's alleged Twitter followers are either fake or never tweet.

Put it this way: Based on abundant evidence regarding her curious shifts in positions as well as her conspicuous efforts to manufacture consent, if I were looking for a way to describe the Clinton campaign, "genuine" would not be the first word that springs to mind.

[arcane1]

73. She used OUR money to make State seem like she made it more popular, to use in her 2016 campaign.

We donated to her whether we wanted to or not.

[frylock]

155. Yep. The most groomed Presidential candidate in history.

[Art_from_Ark]

127. Oh, I don't know about that

"Genuine", if followed by "crap", works for me

[Prism]

16. I'm not a conspiracy theorist

But man, that seemed awfully choreographed.

And notice she's smiling the whole time. Usually, you see a hint of annoyance or anger or buh when a politician is interrupted, because they're not expecting it.

She smiled throughout. And she had a canned response to it.

That was really fucking weird.

[geek tragedy]

24. oh look, someone criticizing Hillary for smiling

and if she had frowned or acted upset, people would talk about what an unpleasant personality she has, is unlikeable, has contempt for the commoners etc.

those weren't the first punks to get in her face. ask the House Benghazi committee

[Prism]

41. Do you want to bother about this?

You, who jumped on the backs of LGBTers for years for demanding equality. You want to make a play, "Well, you're clearly sexist!"

No, kiddo. Don't. It's stupid and pointless, and you'll just embarrass yourself further.

[geek tragedy]

43. .

[Prism]

49. *pat pat*

Run along now.

[geek tragedy]

58. I have no idea why Bernie's supporters

get such a bad reputation on the Internet. Such respectful, rational people.

[Prism]

60. Maybe you should yell at LGBTers some more

Then we can bother about your behavior.

[geek tragedy]

68. We? I find your condescension to be much

more compelling than any temper tantrum of mine could prove.

[Prism]

79. hmm? No condescension

Just saying, if you had a Top Ten List of people who went after LGBTers for protesting their inequality, you managed to rank. You have a reputation as a not friendly type to the community.

Just own it or whatever. I don't care. You do you

[JI7]

48. she is probably used to it. she gets heckled a lot

[Prism]

53. Probably

I've seen that smile through a lot.

I think what gets me is the collective audience chant that just sprang up out of nowhere. Usually chants have a slow beginning and a build up. But there, it just arrived, collectively, in unison, immediately.

It's unnatural and suspicious.

[morningfog]

59. It seemed staged to me. But who knows. Maybe more will come out.

Identities of the hecklers. She said, "oh I know, the Bernie people came to say that." That was a strange response. What made her think they were Bernie people?

[Prism]

64. Exactly. Weird and unnatural.

And I'm really not a conspiracy type. I always go with the likeliest explanation for things. But everything about that video is weird on its face.

[Hydra]

126. Her recent blowup at the Greenpeace Girl makes that unlikely n/t

[morningfog]

52. She answered so quickly as if it was expected.

And had her answer scripted.

[Prism]

56. Right?

She was so damn prepared for that disruption.

But the "spontaneous" chanting is why I'm questioning. You don't get a few hundred people on board with a chant in 3 seconds. Usually it's a slow build. But everything was so cut and dried there.

It definitely felt staged to me.

[RufusTFirefly]

72. Yes, when she's truly uncomfortable she either scowls or cackles. n/t

[Avalux]

20. Because M$NBC is not legitimate news and has close ties to Hillary Inc.

Everything they do and say is coordinated and designed to help their candidate.

[pantsonfire]

117. TimeWarner --> CNN....Comcast --> MSNBC....

The two largest media corporations have given the most to HRC's campaign.

Simply wikipedia, TimeWarner and Comcast, and you'll see CNN and NBCUniversal (MSNBC) listed as subsidiaries.

[jillan]

38. Keep it up Hillary. Keep belittling Bernie supporters but do not be surprised when we say outloud

that we will not vote for you.

[geek tragedy]

42. those poor, precious hecklers, did she really think that

crowd was there for her instead of some random Bernie hecklers?

[jillan]

44. Maybe they were Trump supporters? Ever think of that?

[geek tragedy]

46. No one is reporting that they're Trump supporters.

National press is reporting that they were Bernie people.

Are you really surprised that Sanders supporters would heckle someone?

It's what they do on Facebook and Twitter all day.

[jillan]

50. So the press said it, it must be true? WHERE is the evidence that they were Bernie supporters?

Show me.

[geek tragedy]

54. it's a conspiracy, they're all in on it.

http://abc7ny.com/politics/hillary-clinton-faces-disruptive-bernie-sanders-supporters-in-new-york/1270432/

NEW YORK --
Hillary Clinton was giving a spirited defense of her campaign proposals and her lead in the Democratic primaries when she was disrupted by a group of Bernie Sanders supporters ahead of her home state's primary.

A few minutes into Clinton's remarks on the campus of Purchase College, about 20 Sanders supporters shouted, "If she wins, we lose," and began walking out.

[1StrongBlackMan]

55. Damn ... You Bernie folks are getting good mileage out of what was being told to you ...

for months ... up until the actual voting started.

Kudos!

[Mike__M]

39. Gotta admit

It's hard to get those wild birds to follow a script, so you do what you can. . . .

[azmom]

70. +1000

[EndElectoral]

47. Seems no such thing as actual investigative journalism in politics anymore.

[LonePirate]

65. That's not true!

If the investigative journalism benefits a person's preferred candidate, then it is legitimate.

If the investigative journalism benefits the opponent of a person's preferred, then it is a conspiracy or illegitimate journalism.

[Hoyt]

62. Has to be Sanders' supporters -- it makes no sense, no matter how many times I listen. Sad really.

[99Forever]

154. Fucking prove it.

[HooptieWagon]

63. They were Camp Weathervane plants.

There's as much facts to support that as there are to support that it was Sanders supporters.

[Cheese Sandwich]

67. We'll know more soon. Real protesters always video their actions.

Because they want the video of the cops escorting them out. And because it multiplies the impact of their message.

[Mike__M]

151. Next day . . .

has that video surfaced yet?

Protesters who don't want publicity -- seems kinda strange.

[Cheese Sandwich]

152. yes there were at least some Sanders supporters in the mix

and some were carrying a flag I think maybe a Palestinian flag? Not 100% sure on the flag.

DUer greek tragedy posted a video of it in the forum.

[MrWendel]

66. Tinfoil Nation...

out in full force today.

[cosmicone]

76. Tinfoil hats ... buy 1 get one free! n/t

[AzDar]

77. I like how she IMMEDIATELY calls them 'Bernie People' ... More Clintonian FRAUDULENCE.

[highprincipleswork]

80. I am so fed-up with this absolute crap! We are already living in low information police state.

[still_one]

83. I not hear to argue whether the report is accurate or not, but just to point out that it

was Chuck Todd of NBC who said something to the effect that it wasn't the media's job to correct false hoods in news stories

[Skwmom]

85. Johnathan Capehart. n/t

[valerief]

87. It's an oligarch media with an oligarch message. Of course, they'll make Bernie the bad guy. nt

[pinebox]

91. I don't care who did it but they are right!

[BainsBane]

92. "Sanders supporters interrupt Clinton event"

That is what your own link says.

[morningfog]

95. My question is what is the evidence? Hillary immediately said

they were Bernie people. What made her think that?

[BainsBane]

96. I'm going to guess they had Bernie pins or t-shirts on

and other logos. They usually do.

[morningfog]

97. I didn't ask for your guess. I asked what evidence was.

As

[BainsBane]

98. What about the protest makes you doubt they were Sanders supporters?

[morningfog]

102. I haven't seen any evidence that they were.

They didn't say anything about Bernie. What evidence is there that they were "Bernie people?"

[BainsBane]

105. Perhaps some evidence will turn up

Like this, for example: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1618799
The day is young.

I recall Sanders supporters here insisting protestors are a Trump rally weren't really Bernie supporters, despite the fact they were chanting "Bernie, Bernie." I am going to guess that evidence won't much matter. It never has before.

[morningfog]

106. Well at least you've made up your mind. I'm just asking

how Hillary was so sure they were "Bernie people."

I would like to see evidence one way or the other.

[BainsBane]

108. You do know that press attend those events, right?

The press has reported that they are Sanders supporters. You could write CNN, Time, or any of the news outlets reporting the story and ask how they know.

Yes, I believe Clinton knew who she was talking to. I don't see any reason to conclude she didn't.

[morningfog]

109. The press repeated what Hillary said.

[lumberjack_jeff]

94. Quite a speech. When she goes to ad lib mode, she'd be lost without the word "I".

Without sentences that start with "I", she'd have literally nothing to say.

I didn't realize how egotistical she is until contrasted with Sanders.

Facts in evidence: the media played a Clinton speech because "hecklers" interrupted it.

The only thing that makes me doubt that it was staged disruption is how nasty and ham-handedly she reacted. Maybe she thinks that's presidential. Not me, I think it looks Carly Fiorina.

[BainsBane]

99. Right, like when she shoved her wife off the stage

to have the limelight all to herself. Oops. That was someone else.

[redstateblues]

135. Berniebros would never do something like this

[BainsBane]

107. Here is the precise quote:

“I talk to some of the young people and I say, you know, you may not be supporting me but I’m supporting you,” Clinton said as the protesters left. “I will work for you, I will fight for you, I just wish that there were an opportunity to actually talk and listen to each other. We’ve got to unite when this primary fight is over we gotta unite and make sure weve got a Democrat in the White House.

http://time.com/4278203/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-protesters-new-york/

[riversedge]

112. Thank you. I am glad she said that to the crowd. It is very similar to

another event--I forget--but she has reached out to with those words before. I have heard them--or very similar words.

[azurnoir]

100. GreenPeace?

[morningfog]

103. When was that?

[azurnoir]

104. it was at the same event as the one in this thread SUNY Purchase

go to youtube it's on GreenPeace's channel

[BainsBane]

101. We'll have to see if something like this turns up

?w=984

[riversedge]

111. The Sanders camp put that out?? whow!

[BainsBane]

114. We can't tell that from the screenshot

They were supporters yes, but that doesn't mean it was the campaign itself.

[Nanjeanne]

116. Is there a link? I would like to see who you are supposed to contact.

[BainsBane]

118. Take your pick

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=janesville%20trump%20rally%20bernie

https://www.google.com/search?q=janesville+trump+rally+bernie&espv=2&biw=1422&bih=661&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiNx630-uvLAhUF1xQKHSKiDSsQ_AUICCgD#tbm=isch&q=janesville+trump+rally+protest+bernie

[Nanjeanne]

119. Those are screenshots of what you posted. I mean the link to the actual AD.

The picture doesn't tell me anything. Just that someone put it on twitter. And any article shows the same thing. Not the link to CraigsList where we can actually see the real thing.

But thanks for those google searches. I did read about a man offering hugs at a Trump Rally and also the Trump supporter who pepper sprayed a girl who was protesting.

[BainsBane]

120. I saw it as a screen shot

You can hunt down the links yourself. The event has already happened anyway.

[Nanjeanne]

121. Okay. I just thought as you posted the comment you had actual link to show it was real. No worries.

[Cheese Sandwich]

125. That graphic was put out by the Trump campaign to generate sympathy.

[Attorney in Texas]

115. OMG - someone please alert Madeline Albright: THOSE GIRLS ARE ALL GOING TO HELL!

[2banon]

123. Totally Staged. So obvious!

sheesh folks, c'mon!

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[geek tragedy]

149. Nope. It was college age Bernie People

http://www.lohud.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/03/31/new-york-primary-hillary-clinton-purchase/82462088/

[2banon]

124. Does General Electric still own MSNBC these days?

If so, there's your answer.

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[litlbilly]

128. does anyone really think a true Bernie supporter would waste their time at a Hillary staged event?

[RufusTFirefly]

130. Amazingly simple question with a breathtakingly easy answer.

Thanks so much for asking it!

[litlbilly]

137. Thank you. I guess it is and easy answer

[redstateblues]

131. Yes. just like their online behavior

[Kali]

146. so much better at the library, no tee vees

[AzDar]

156. Hmmmm... Anyone know?