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Hillary Clinton Loses Patience with Greenpeace Activist Over Fossil Fuel Donations (Original Post) NWCorona Mar 2016 OP
Seems like sHill needs to watch her TONE... Damn. AzDar Mar 2016 #1
I know right? NWCorona Mar 2016 #4
I bet that makes her supporters love her all the more. She is tough. Not very good at responses rhett o rick Mar 2016 #30
Wow, really nasty attitude exposed Merryland Mar 2016 #2
It's like she started to say she doesn't but then says she does NWCorona Mar 2016 #7
Yeah, her attack on Bernie was ugly. senz Mar 2016 #47
She was about to say no Aerows Mar 2016 #59
Oh, so she's so sick of it? CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #3
I don't care for the fingerpointing, I don't care for her tone. CentralCoaster Mar 2016 #5
Total agreement, she let her mask slip. Unpleasant revelation. senz Mar 2016 #71
Yikes astrophuss42 Mar 2016 #6
She uses the question to try and attack the Sanders campaign even though it is Greenpeace asking. GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #8
No way she's going to fight climate change. senz Mar 2016 #53
Meet the Fossil Fuel Lobbyists Raising Money for Hillary Clinton Skwmom Mar 2016 #9
Thanks for the link! NWCorona Mar 2016 #11
Is Paloma Partners LLC the same as Paloma Partners III LLC? Skwmom Mar 2016 #39
Wow that was nasty. nt malokvale77 Mar 2016 #10
What was Clinton trying to say here? Ash_F Mar 2016 #11
She is a NASTY woman. Avalux Mar 2016 #13
Exactly. Not what we want in the Oval Office. senz Mar 2016 #51
"I am SO sick of the Sanders campaign..." MgtPA Mar 2016 #14
Odd how these types of threads get zero Gwhittey Mar 2016 #15
You know what's worse? JackRiddler Mar 2016 #73
Wow. Talk about finger-pointing... did she poke that girl in the chest? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #16
And remember that Huma Abedin pushed someone in the crowd a while back.. grasswire Mar 2016 #78
Smells like... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #79
Vicious is right NWCorona Mar 2016 #81
Everything is about her. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #17
And don't forget, she has the scars to prove it! Call a doctor already appalachiablue Mar 2016 #66
#WhichHillary the one that smiles and talks sweetly to the media or the one that drips vitriol jillan Mar 2016 #18
*crickets* from Clinton Supporters in threads like these... GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #19
Did she just stick her finger right in that girl's face and yell? All she did was ask a question. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #20
Indeed she did Aerows Mar 2016 #57
How dare she ask the queen a question? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #58
Did you see that obfuscation, too? Aerows Mar 2016 #61
That's why she flipped out, touched a very raw nerve. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #64
If you come for a candidate then you should expect a response KingFlorez Mar 2016 #21
You mean when you don't have a good response, yell and point your finger agressively. She is tough rhett o rick Mar 2016 #34
lol, losing it. K&R closeupready Mar 2016 #22
Let's make this go viral... GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #23
On it. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #25
This is the same appearance where she called some hecklers "Bernie supporters" this sheds some light azurnoir Mar 2016 #24
Bernie has got her goat..... Sivart Mar 2016 #26
What was that Maya Angelou quote again? GreenPartyVoter Mar 2016 #27
What the fuck? azmom Mar 2016 #28
Wait - I thought getting "huffy" wasn't presidential? jonno99 Mar 2016 #29
She's a nasty-tempered person who will NOT be questioned DebbieCDC Mar 2016 #31
That's it right there. How dare you speak ill of royalty. FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #46
And this is how she behaves when she's trying to win your vote. Imagine what Karmadillo Mar 2016 #32
This gets it exactly right. Most of us are screwed if she's president. Broward Mar 2016 #45
now we are up to five videos nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #33
I think Hillary has a lot on her mind NWCorona Mar 2016 #41
I got a local story to write on labor getting 15 an hour nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #43
She gets made when cornered. Not presidential. And she is clearly getting pissed that Bernie rhett o rick Mar 2016 #35
I don't believe I care for HRC's tone. grntuscarora Mar 2016 #36
Forget her tone, the real question: Who is lying about this? Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #37
When the Clintons tell lies, they deliberately get angry to throw people off guard. It's effective. reformist2 Mar 2016 #38
Cranky, cranky, cranky. Vinca Mar 2016 #40
When Putin doesn't listen SheenaR Mar 2016 #42
Yes it is. NWCorona Mar 2016 #48
In this video, Hillary truly #FeltTheBern. Here Hillary, have a little... FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #44
Does H lose her calm in the face of adversity? snowy owl Mar 2016 #49
She needs a hug! Agony Mar 2016 #50
that finger in the face = pure self righteousness TheSarcastinator Mar 2016 #52
Of course not, what's more important? The environment.... daleanime Mar 2016 #54
She seems nice. frylock Mar 2016 #55
!! polly7 Mar 2016 #70
Hot-headed, untruthful, criminal. I don't have nearly enough self-loathing to vote for her. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #56
You can yell ,but you can't hide. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #60
If she doesn't like Greenpeace, there's always Mother Jones EndElectoral Mar 2016 #62
She's paranoid and sees Bernie everywhere she looks. PonyUp Mar 2016 #63
She's going critical. Jester Messiah Mar 2016 #65
When she was young she confronted a senator Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #67
That is a great point. NWCorona Mar 2016 #68
K&R quantumjunkie Mar 2016 #69
"I did not have financial relations with that company!" The Midway Rebel Mar 2016 #72
That was funny NWCorona Mar 2016 #80
Another candidate timmymoff Mar 2016 #74
I thought the same! NWCorona Mar 2016 #75
Spot on observation. CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #82
Remember those stories from Arkansas State Troopers and SS security details? frylock Mar 2016 #76
I've read that if you screw up at the secret service NWCorona Mar 2016 #77
I'm starting to feel sorry for her Doctor_J Mar 2016 #83
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
30. I bet that makes her supporters love her all the more. She is tough. Not very good at responses
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:26 PM
Mar 2016

but definitely tough.

Merryland

(1,134 posts)
2. Wow, really nasty attitude exposed
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:36 PM
Mar 2016

Did you catch what she said? Did she say she DOES take fossil fuel money or what?

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
7. It's like she started to say she doesn't but then says she does
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:39 PM
Mar 2016

But what lie is Bernie talking about?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
47. Yeah, her attack on Bernie was ugly.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:30 PM
Mar 2016

She's acting like all criticism of her horrid past actions stems from Bernie and Bernie only. As if no one else would find anything wrong with what she does.

Hope she loses.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
59. She was about to say no
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:05 PM
Mar 2016

but then obfuscated by saying she took it from individual donors.

As though nobody can look up the donations to the SuperPACs supporting her, donations to the Clinton Foundation, and see that there are a hell of a lot more donations coming in from fossil fuel companies than just "individuals".

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
5. I don't care for the fingerpointing, I don't care for her tone.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:38 PM
Mar 2016

Secretary Clinton is not someone I would want to have a conversation or a meal with.

It's just not a likable manner to take with anyone including an activist demonstrating at a public event.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
8. She uses the question to try and attack the Sanders campaign even though it is Greenpeace asking.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:40 PM
Mar 2016

and btw...

Fossil fuel interests have pumped $3.25 million into the largest super PAC supporting Hillary Clinton's candidacy for the White House.

Approximately one in every 15 dollars given to Priorities USA Action, which took in $50.5 million in contributions last year, came from donors linked to oil and natural gas interests, according to data compiled by Greenpeace.

But fossil fuel interests are also sending checks directly to her campaign. Clinton has take in nearly $268,000 in contributions from individuals employed in the oil and gas sector this election cycle, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.


https://news.vice.com/article/fossil-fuel-investors-are-pumping-millions-of-dollars-into-hillary-clintons-campaign
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
53. No way she's going to fight climate change.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:39 PM
Mar 2016
Nearly all of the lobbyists bundling contributions for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's campaign have at one time or another worked for the fossil fuel industry.
-- from the Mother Jones article.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
9. Meet the Fossil Fuel Lobbyists Raising Money for Hillary Clinton
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:40 PM
Mar 2016

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/07/hillary-clinton-bundlers-fossil-fuel-lobbyists

Plus, the Clinton Foundation got big money directly from the corporations. Hmm... and who was on the payroll at the Clinton Foundation...

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
39. Is Paloma Partners LLC the same as Paloma Partners III LLC?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:47 PM
Mar 2016

Donor to Hillary Clinton Super Pac or other organization during the 2016 cycle:

S. Donald Sussman
$2.5 million
Founder and chairman of Paloma Partners LLC.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/top-presidential-donors-campaign-money.html?_r=0

Ohio shale: Gulfport Energy acquires American Energy – Utica acreage for $387 million

The acreage is located near or adjacent to the acreage included in Gulfport’s previously and still pending announced acquisition of Paloma Partners III, LLC.

(Note: This was a sale. Don't know if they have other fracking interests).

http://petroglobalnews.com/2015/06/ohio-shale-gulfport-energy-acquires-american-energy-utica-acreage-for-387-million/

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
11. What was Clinton trying to say here?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:41 PM
Mar 2016

Edit - Explanation in the video description

"At a Hillary Clinton rally at SUNY Purchase campus today, the presidential candidate lost her patience with a Greenpeace activist who thanked her for her commitment to climate change then asked her whether she'll reject fossil fuel money moving forward. Pointing her finger at activist Eva Resnick-Day, Clinton claimed she only takes money from people who work for fossil fuel companies and called the accusations lies."

Can this claim be verified? Also that does not seemed to like a huge difference. Just semantics.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
13. She is a NASTY woman.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:42 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary was unhinged with the finger pointing, the snarled face and the yelling. The activist was telling the truth.

So presidential. NOT.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
15. Odd how these types of threads get zero
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:49 PM
Mar 2016

Clinton Supporters. Yet if post a thread about hillary being xyz votes it gets like 500 replies.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
73. You know what's worse?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:40 PM
Mar 2016

All the threads with bogus attacks on Sanders get kicked all day by Sanders supporters debating people who aren't interested in debating. The relative "discipline" is telling you what the relative composition of the two crowds here is.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
16. Wow. Talk about finger-pointing... did she poke that girl in the chest?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:02 PM
Mar 2016

It looked to me like she poked her with her right hand in the beginning of the video.

Talk about vicious though, my goodness.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
78. And remember that Huma Abedin pushed someone in the crowd a while back..
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:14 PM
Mar 2016

....a woman who had shaken Hillary's hand and moved as if to hug Huma. Huma shoved her and had some unkind words for her.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
17. Everything is about her.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:07 PM
Mar 2016

"I am so sick of....."

Okay... maybe see a doctor? but you haven't answered the question.

Apparently, she considers a good offense to be the best defense.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
18. #WhichHillary the one that smiles and talks sweetly to the media or the one that drips vitriol
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:08 PM
Mar 2016

to Americans that do not agree with her

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
19. *crickets* from Clinton Supporters in threads like these...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:09 PM
Mar 2016

where she is exposed for the type of person she really is.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
20. Did she just stick her finger right in that girl's face and yell? All she did was ask a question.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:12 PM
Mar 2016

It's not like she interrupted her while she was speaking.

Holy shit, when HC supporters booed Bernie on his birthday he smiled and waved at them.


 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
57. Indeed she did
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:01 PM
Mar 2016

Had her finger right in that young woman's face for asking if she would keep her campaign promise and in the future reject donations from fossil fuel companies.

She was about to say no, but then switched it to "I have donors who work in the fossil fuel industry". As though there aren't major corporate donors. She tried to get all huffy like "they are just individual donors!"

I'll bet she is sick of Greenpeace, Democrats, the Sanders campaign, and everybody that is concerned about the environment + climate change questioning her commitment to her campaign promises.

Secretary Clinton, normal people who are concerned about climate change are rightly skeptical about your commitment to protecting the environment given your support for Keystone XL, fracking, and the big dollar donations you, your various SuperPACs and the Clinton Foundation has received from many different fossil fuel companies.

Irate at a Greenpeace activist for asking the question that anybody with a grain of sense would ask if they care about the environment.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
61. Did you see that obfuscation, too?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:06 PM
Mar 2016

That was some serious horseshittery. She wanted to say no, but then switched to "it's just individuals".

I don't know who she think she is fooling with that particular pile, but anybody with an internet connection knows that she was as full of shit as a Christmas turkey with that response.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
64. That's why she flipped out, touched a very raw nerve.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:09 PM
Mar 2016

She knows she's vulnerable and reacted instinctively.

The mask slipped, hello real Hillary.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
34. You mean when you don't have a good response, yell and point your finger agressively. She is tough
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:29 PM
Mar 2016

have to give you that. Which she was more compassionate about us peons.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
23. Let's make this go viral...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:18 PM
Mar 2016

Share the hell out of this everywhere you can, FB, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, etc.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
24. This is the same appearance where she called some hecklers "Bernie supporters" this sheds some light
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:19 PM
Mar 2016

on that

 

Sivart

(325 posts)
26. Bernie has got her goat.....
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:23 PM
Mar 2016

She is starting to lose it. That was super trump-like.

Bernie is really getting to her.


DebbieCDC

(2,543 posts)
31. She's a nasty-tempered person who will NOT be questioned
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:26 PM
Mar 2016

We'll see if she pulls this shtick on the FBI

Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
32. And this is how she behaves when she's trying to win your vote. Imagine what
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:27 PM
Mar 2016

we'll get if she ever occupies the White House and the Little People are no longer needed.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/03/hillary-clintons-email-hairball-summarized-11-points-a-test-of-presidential-character.html

<edit>

Clinton’s email hairball foreshadows her character as President. As ScottW comments: “Clinton did what Clinton wanted to do.” And that’s regardless of what she said, and despite advice given to her in good faith. So if Clinton wants TPP, a Grand Bargain, or war in [insert country here], that’s what she’ll go for, regardless of what she says on the trail, or the counsel of the wise.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
43. I got a local story to write on labor getting 15 an hour
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:24 PM
Mar 2016

I am sure somebody should ask (both candidates mind you) about California's plan to raise the minimum to 15 by 2022 and to then do it annually using the inflation rate

And I love my husband, I estimated the crowd at 350, the overshot crowd shot allowed me to count it, 400

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
35. She gets made when cornered. Not presidential. And she is clearly getting pissed that Bernie
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:32 PM
Mar 2016

people (the People) are holding her to task. This slide into the coronation isn't going so well.

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
36. I don't believe I care for HRC's tone.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:37 PM
Mar 2016

Nor do I like her accepting wads of money from the natural gas companies that are fracking the hell out of my state.
HRC owes the activist an apology.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
37. Forget her tone, the real question: Who is lying about this?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:41 PM
Mar 2016

It would seem that Hillary is not only lying about her contributions from the fossil fuel industry, but she is lying about who is actually making the claims about them.

Greenpeace.org says:


http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/campaign-updates/hillary-clintons-connection-oil-gas-industry/

^snip^

First there are the direct contributions from people working for fossil fuel companies to Hillary Clinton’s campaign committee. According to the most recent filings, the committee has received $309,107 (as of 3/21/16; source: Center for Responsive Politics) from such donors

Next are the fossil fuel lobbyists, many of whom have also bundled contributions. These donations also flow to Hillary Clinton’s campaign committee. Greenpeace has tracked $1,259,280 in bundled and direct donations from lobbyists currently registered as lobbying for the fossil fuel industry. This number excludes donations from lobbyists who are employed directly by a fossil fuel companies, as those donations would have been included in the previous number.

Last are contributions from fossil fuel interests to Super PACs supporting Hillary Clinton. Greenpeace has found $3,250,000 in donations from large donors connected to the fossil fuel industry to Priorities Action USA, a Super PAC supporting Secretary Clinton’s campaign.

All told, the campaign to elect Hillary Clinton for president in 2016 has received more than $4.5 million from lobbyists, bundlers, and large donors connected the fossil fuel industry.





So, unless Greenpeace is lying....








snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
49. Does H lose her calm in the face of adversity?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:32 PM
Mar 2016

That's not a good sign. Protesters and tough questions are part of politics.

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
52. that finger in the face = pure self righteousness
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:39 PM
Mar 2016

What an excellent example of the entitlement and arrogance found throughout Team Shilllary.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
60. You can yell ,but you can't hide.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:06 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/campaign-updates/hillary-clintons-connection-oil-gas-industry/

Hillary Clinton’s Connection to the Oil and Gas Industry

Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Super PAC supporting her have received more than $4.5 million from the fossil fuel industry.

Research compiled by Greenpeace USA

Contact: Perry Wheeler, perry.wheeler@greenpeace.org

Hillary Clinton’s campaign has been backed by the fossil fuel industry in a number of ways.

First there are the direct contributions from people working for fossil fuel companies to Hillary Clinton’s campaign committee. According to the most recent filings, the committee has received $309,107 (as of 3/21/16; source: Center for Responsive Politics) from such donors

Next are the fossil fuel lobbyists, many of whom have also bundled contributions. These donations also flow to Hillary Clinton’s campaign committee. Greenpeace has tracked $1,259,280 in bundled and direct donations from lobbyists currently registered as lobbying for the fossil fuel industry. This number excludes donations from lobbyists who are employed directly by a fossil fuel companies, as those donations would have been included in the previous number.

Last are contributions from fossil fuel interests to Super PACs supporting Hillary Clinton. Greenpeace has found $3,250,000 in donations from large donors connected to the fossil fuel industry to Priorities Action USA, a Super PAC supporting Secretary Clinton’s campaign.

All told, the campaign to elect Hillary Clinton for president in 2016 has received more than $4.5 million from lobbyists, bundlers, and large donors connected the fossil fuel industry.
 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
65. She's going critical.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:13 PM
Mar 2016

If she can't stand the pressure of a primary, the Oval Office will destroy her. (And the country along with, if she makes it that far.)

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
67. When she was young she confronted a senator
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:19 PM
Mar 2016

who spoke at her college graduation. I wonder if she thinks the senator should have spoken to her that same way?

She has no redeeming qualities at all.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
76. Remember those stories from Arkansas State Troopers and SS security details?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:03 PM
Mar 2016

You know, claiming how surly and disrespectful Mrs. Clinton can be? I believe them.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
83. I'm starting to feel sorry for her
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:12 PM
Mar 2016

She's coming unglued. The bizarre thing is that if she'd entered the republican primary, she'd have coasted. There are just too many democrats who are against a lot of her positions

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