2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClimate Change.. New York! Is Hillary's Integrity With Respect To Climate Change A Concern?
If you read this article one can certainly be given pause to consider whether Hillary does in fact have...
"integrity" on Climate Change.
As Secretary of State, Hillary SOLD FRACKING to the WORLD... LITERALLY!
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron
Watch Bernie's Facial Expression As Hillary Cobbles Together A Response...
We Need A President With INTEGRITY! BERNIE SANDERS IS THAT PRESIDENT!
Yet Hillary Portrays Herself As A Climate Change Advocate in the interview with Chuck Todd today!
http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/full-interview-clinton-on-abortion-fbi-and-debates-658016835580
Susan Sarandon "I really want to be on the Right Side of History... This is a shot that we are not going to have again in my lifetime...."
CORPORATIST NATION POINT: Let's hope that America collectively recognizes this "revolution. We must remain optimistic that OUR voice will be acknowledged... by those who control the strings of power who will peacefully relinquish their grasp...
CompanyFirstSergeant
(1,558 posts)...a lot of people whom Rush Limbaugh refers to as environmental whackos.*
There is no fracking in New York.
Pipelines and compressor stations are fought tooth and nail.
Lot's of Bernie signs.
*Message to Rush: we also have a lot of clean air and water up here, too. Ask New York City about the water.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)than oil or coal, then the best ways to extract that gas have to be considered. I am against fracking in most instances, but I'm not sure one should automatically condemn it in every case.
I think Clinton's position is reasonable:
She's against it "when any locality or any state is against it," "when the release of methane or contamination of water is present," and "unless we can require that anybody who fracks has to tell us exactly what chemicals they are using."
Until those conditions are met, "we've got to regulate everything that is currently underway, and we have to have a system in place that prevents further fracking." "By the time we get through all of my conditions, I do not think there will be many places in America where fracking will continue to take place," she added.
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/03/hillary-clinton-debate-fracking
While Clinton has changed her position to that expressed above, Sanders does not see the nuances involved in promoting natural gas in the short-run. He's way too rigid, and afraid to tell the truth to potential voters, on most issues.
CompanyFirstSergeant
(1,558 posts)...have-it-both-ways position.
BirdieSanders
(26 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)the sky.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)gas emissions.
There is no way to make it safe.
Politicians who say that are lying because they are shills for the oil industry.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)"By the time we get through all of my conditions, I do not think there will be many places in America where fracking will continue to take place . . . . . ."
Seems quite blunt to me.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)BirdieSanders
(26 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)She is the Queen of OBFUSCATION! Not a TRUTH teller by nature... She cannot give you the color of the shoes she has on w/o going into some multi-faceted discussion that never answers the question posed.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)!
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Thanks for the thread, CorporatistNation.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)I would submit that she is not... And That is my point... Hillary's position on Climate Change is that ... it's not a net benefit for her based on her history... as noted. Glad to hear about all the Bernie signs... New Yorker's across the state are not easily duped!
In the end should bode well for Bernie and America! Thanks!
CompanyFirstSergeant
(1,558 posts)....'I agree with whatever the voters listening to this speech agree with.'
She does not want fracking in communities that don't want it, and vice versa.
That leaves a non-position for local communities to battle over.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)and that's just the DEMOCRATS