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Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:33 AM

Climate Change.. New York! Is Hillary's Integrity With Respect To Climate Change A Concern?

If you read this article one can certainly be given pause to consider whether Hillary does in fact have...
"integrity" on Climate Change.

As Secretary of State, Hillary SOLD FRACKING to the WORLD... LITERALLY!
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron

One icy morning in February 2012, Hillary Clinton's plane touched down in the Bulgarian capital, Sofia, which was just digging out from a fierce blizzard. Wrapped in a thick coat, the secretary of state descended the stairs to the snow-covered tarmac, where she and her aides piled into a motorcade bound for the presidential palace...



Watch Bernie's Facial Expression As Hillary Cobbles Together A Response...


We Need A President With INTEGRITY! BERNIE SANDERS IS THAT PRESIDENT!

Yet Hillary Portrays Herself As A Climate Change Advocate in the interview with Chuck Todd today!
http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/full-interview-clinton-on-abortion-fbi-and-debates-658016835580

Susan Sarandon "I really want to be on the Right Side of History... This is a shot that we are not going to have again in my lifetime...."


CORPORATIST NATION POINT: Let's hope that America collectively recognizes this "revolution. We must remain optimistic that OUR voice will be acknowledged... by those who control the strings of power who will peacefully relinquish their grasp...

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Reply Climate Change.. New York! Is Hillary's Integrity With Respect To Climate Change A Concern? (Original post)
CorporatistNation Apr 2016 OP
CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #1
Hoyt Apr 2016 #2
CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #5
BirdieSanders Apr 2016 #7
Hoyt Apr 2016 #13
Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #16
Hoyt Apr 2016 #17
Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #18
Hoyt Apr 2016 #19
Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #20
BirdieSanders Apr 2016 #21
Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #23
CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #22
CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #8
Hoyt Apr 2016 #14
CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #24
libtodeath Apr 2016 #9
Hoyt Apr 2016 #15
Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #3
riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #4
CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #6
CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #10
MisterP Apr 2016 #11
DanTex Apr 2016 #12

Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:42 AM

1. Upstate New York has..

 

...a lot of people whom Rush Limbaugh refers to as environmental whackos.*

There is no fracking in New York.

Pipelines and compressor stations are fought tooth and nail.

Lot's of Bernie signs.

*Message to Rush: we also have a lot of clean air and water up here, too. Ask New York City about the water.

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:52 AM

2. If one accepts that in transition from fossil fuels to renewable energy, natural gas is a better

 

than oil or coal, then the best ways to extract that gas have to be considered. I am against fracking in most instances, but I'm not sure one should automatically condemn it in every case.

I think Clinton's position is reasonable:

She's against it "when any locality or any state is against it," "when the release of methane or contamination of water is present," and "unless we can require that anybody who fracks has to tell us exactly what chemicals they are using."

Until those conditions are met, "we've got to regulate everything that is currently underway, and we have to have a system in place that prevents further fracking." "By the time we get through all of my conditions, I do not think there will be many places in America where fracking will continue to take place," she added.


http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/03/hillary-clinton-debate-fracking


While Clinton has changed her position to that expressed above, Sanders does not see the nuances involved in promoting natural gas in the short-run. He's way too rigid, and afraid to tell the truth to potential voters, on most issues.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:55 AM

5. Seems kind of a ...

 

...have-it-both-ways position.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:57 AM

7. one should NOT accept natural gas as a transitional fuel with benefits

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Response to BirdieSanders (Reply #7)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:04 PM

13. It's better than coal and oil in the short-run.

 

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:08 PM

16. You should drink some water from a well contaminated by these chemicals and check your privelege

 

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #16)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:10 PM

17. As Clinton said that would prevent Fracking. But, hey, why not spread crud. Read, don't yell at

 

the sky.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #17)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:12 PM

18. Hillary Clinton is a liar. Fracking is inherently unsafe for drinking water and also for greenhouse

 

gas emissions.

There is no way to make it safe.

Politicians who say that are lying because they are shills for the oil industry.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #18)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:18 PM

19. Clinton: "By time we get through my conditions, don't think there will be many places where fracking

 

"By the time we get through all of my conditions, I do not think there will be many places in America where fracking will continue to take place . . . . . ."

Seems quite blunt to me.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #19)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:45 PM

20. Seems like a lie by a professional weasel a month before the election

 


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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #20)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:50 PM

21. Thank you Cheese for your replies <3

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #19)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:52 PM

22. She Always HAs To Have A Way Out... Her Method Is Defined As OBFUSCATION!

She is the Queen of OBFUSCATION! Not a TRUTH teller by nature... She cannot give you the color of the shoes she has on w/o going into some multi-faceted discussion that never answers the question posed.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:01 PM

8. I Imagine Hillary Is Aware of Oklahoma Now Being Second Behind california For EARTHQUAKES?

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Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:05 PM

14. And under her, those wells would be closed.

 

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:14 PM

24. How So? She Would Just... Come Up With Another condition... That IS Her MO!

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:03 PM

9. One more progressive value thrown away

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Response to libtodeath (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:06 PM

15. The term means nothing. There are Sanders' supporters who think guns everywhere is "progressive."

 

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:53 AM

3. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, CorporatistNation.

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:55 AM

4. She also supports Keystone XL

 



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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:56 AM

6. So Is Hillary's Position On Fracking In Line With That Of New Yorkers? Hailing FROM Western New York

I would submit that she is not... And That is my point... Hillary's position on Climate Change is that ... it's not a net benefit for her based on her history... as noted. Glad to hear about all the Bernie signs... New Yorker's across the state are not easily duped!

In the end should bode well for Bernie and America! Thanks!

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Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #6)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:34 PM

10. Hillary's position is always...

 

....'I agree with whatever the voters listening to this speech agree with.'

She does not want fracking in communities that don't want it, and vice versa.

That leaves a non-position for local communities to battle over.

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:49 PM

11. "send them BACK!" "kick their ASS and take their GAS!" "drill HERE drill NOW!" "let them DIE!"

and that's just the DEMOCRATS

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:50 PM

12. Natural gas burns cleaner than coal, which is why it was part of Obama's climate strategy.

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