Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:33 AM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
Climate Change.. New York! Is Hillary's Integrity With Respect To Climate Change A Concern?
If you read this article one can certainly be given pause to consider whether Hillary does in fact have...
"integrity" on Climate Change. As Secretary of State, Hillary SOLD FRACKING to the WORLD... LITERALLY! http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron One icy morning in February 2012, Hillary Clinton's plane touched down in the Bulgarian capital, Sofia, which was just digging out from a fierce blizzard. Wrapped in a thick coat, the secretary of state descended the stairs to the snow-covered tarmac, where she and her aides piled into a motorcade bound for the presidential palace...
Watch Bernie's Facial Expression As Hillary Cobbles Together A Response... We Need A President With INTEGRITY! BERNIE SANDERS IS THAT PRESIDENT! Yet Hillary Portrays Herself As A Climate Change Advocate in the interview with Chuck Todd today! http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/full-interview-clinton-on-abortion-fbi-and-debates-658016835580 Susan Sarandon "I really want to be on the Right Side of History... This is a shot that we are not going to have again in my lifetime...." CORPORATIST NATION POINT: Let's hope that America collectively recognizes this "revolution. We must remain optimistic that OUR voice will be acknowledged... by those who control the strings of power who will peacefully relinquish their grasp...
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CorporatistNation | Apr 2016 | OP |
CompanyFirstSergeant | Apr 2016 | #1 | |
Hoyt | Apr 2016 | #2 | |
CompanyFirstSergeant | Apr 2016 | #5 | |
BirdieSanders | Apr 2016 | #7 | |
Hoyt | Apr 2016 | #13 | |
Cheese Sandwich | Apr 2016 | #16 | |
Hoyt | Apr 2016 | #17 | |
Cheese Sandwich | Apr 2016 | #18 | |
Hoyt | Apr 2016 | #19 | |
Cheese Sandwich | Apr 2016 | #20 | |
BirdieSanders | Apr 2016 | #21 | |
Cheese Sandwich | Apr 2016 | #23 | |
CorporatistNation | Apr 2016 | #22 | |
CorporatistNation | Apr 2016 | #8 | |
Hoyt | Apr 2016 | #14 | |
CorporatistNation | Apr 2016 | #24 | |
libtodeath | Apr 2016 | #9 | |
Hoyt | Apr 2016 | #15 | |
Uncle Joe | Apr 2016 | #3 | |
riderinthestorm | Apr 2016 | #4 | |
CorporatistNation | Apr 2016 | #6 | |
CompanyFirstSergeant | Apr 2016 | #10 | |
MisterP | Apr 2016 | #11 | |
DanTex | Apr 2016 | #12 |
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:42 AM
CompanyFirstSergeant (1,558 posts)
1. Upstate New York has..
...a lot of people whom Rush Limbaugh refers to as environmental whackos.*
There is no fracking in New York. Pipelines and compressor stations are fought tooth and nail. Lot's of Bernie signs. *Message to Rush: we also have a lot of clean air and water up here, too. Ask New York City about the water. |
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:52 AM
Hoyt (54,770 posts)
2. If one accepts that in transition from fossil fuels to renewable energy, natural gas is a better
than oil or coal, then the best ways to extract that gas have to be considered. I am against fracking in most instances, but I'm not sure one should automatically condemn it in every case.
I think Clinton's position is reasonable: She's against it "when any locality or any state is against it," "when the release of methane or contamination of water is present," and "unless we can require that anybody who fracks has to tell us exactly what chemicals they are using." http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/03/hillary-clinton-debate-fracking While Clinton has changed her position to that expressed above, Sanders does not see the nuances involved in promoting natural gas in the short-run. He's way too rigid, and afraid to tell the truth to potential voters, on most issues. |
Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:55 AM
CompanyFirstSergeant (1,558 posts)
5. Seems kind of a ...
...have-it-both-ways position.
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:57 AM
BirdieSanders (26 posts)
7. one should NOT accept natural gas as a transitional fuel with benefits
Response to BirdieSanders (Reply #7)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:04 PM
Hoyt (54,770 posts)
13. It's better than coal and oil in the short-run.
Response to Hoyt (Reply #13)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:08 PM
Cheese Sandwich (9,086 posts)
16. You should drink some water from a well contaminated by these chemicals and check your privelege
Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #16)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:10 PM
Hoyt (54,770 posts)
17. As Clinton said that would prevent Fracking. But, hey, why not spread crud. Read, don't yell at
the sky.
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #17)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:12 PM
Cheese Sandwich (9,086 posts)
18. Hillary Clinton is a liar. Fracking is inherently unsafe for drinking water and also for greenhouse
gas emissions.
There is no way to make it safe. Politicians who say that are lying because they are shills for the oil industry. |
Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #18)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:18 PM
Hoyt (54,770 posts)
19. Clinton: "By time we get through my conditions, don't think there will be many places where fracking
"By the time we get through all of my conditions, I do not think there will be many places in America where fracking will continue to take place . . . . . ."
Seems quite blunt to me. |
Response to Hoyt (Reply #19)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:45 PM
Cheese Sandwich (9,086 posts)
20. Seems like a lie by a professional weasel a month before the election
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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #20)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:50 PM
BirdieSanders (26 posts)
21. Thank you Cheese for your replies <3
Response to BirdieSanders (Reply #21)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:53 PM
Cheese Sandwich (9,086 posts)
23. ok!
Response to Hoyt (Reply #19)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:52 PM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
22. She Always HAs To Have A Way Out... Her Method Is Defined As OBFUSCATION!
She is the Queen of OBFUSCATION! Not a TRUTH teller by nature... She cannot give you the color of the shoes she has on w/o going into some multi-faceted discussion that never answers the question posed.
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:01 PM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
8. I Imagine Hillary Is Aware of Oklahoma Now Being Second Behind california For EARTHQUAKES?
Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #8)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:05 PM
Hoyt (54,770 posts)
14. And under her, those wells would be closed.
Response to Hoyt (Reply #14)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:14 PM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
24. How So? She Would Just... Come Up With Another condition... That IS Her MO!
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:03 PM
libtodeath (2,888 posts)
9. One more progressive value thrown away
Response to libtodeath (Reply #9)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:06 PM
Hoyt (54,770 posts)
15. The term means nothing. There are Sanders' supporters who think guns everywhere is "progressive."
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:53 AM
Uncle Joe (54,837 posts)
3. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, CorporatistNation.
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:55 AM
riderinthestorm (23,272 posts)
4. She also supports Keystone XL
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:56 AM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
6. So Is Hillary's Position On Fracking In Line With That Of New Yorkers? Hailing FROM Western New York
I would submit that she is not... And That is my point... Hillary's position on Climate Change is that ... it's not a net benefit for her based on her history... as noted. Glad to hear about all the Bernie signs... New Yorker's across the state are not easily duped!
In the end should bode well for Bernie and America! Thanks! |
Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #6)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:34 PM
CompanyFirstSergeant (1,558 posts)
10. Hillary's position is always...
....'I agree with whatever the voters listening to this speech agree with.'
She does not want fracking in communities that don't want it, and vice versa. That leaves a non-position for local communities to battle over. |
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:49 PM
MisterP (23,730 posts)
11. "send them BACK!" "kick their ASS and take their GAS!" "drill HERE drill NOW!" "let them DIE!"
and that's just the DEMOCRATS
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:50 PM
DanTex (20,709 posts)