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CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:33 PM Apr 2016

Climate Change.. New York! Is Hillary's Integrity With Respect To Climate Change A Concern?

If you read this article one can certainly be given pause to consider whether Hillary does in fact have...
"integrity" on Climate Change.

As Secretary of State, Hillary SOLD FRACKING to the WORLD... LITERALLY!
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron

One icy morning in February 2012, Hillary Clinton's plane touched down in the Bulgarian capital, Sofia, which was just digging out from a fierce blizzard. Wrapped in a thick coat, the secretary of state descended the stairs to the snow-covered tarmac, where she and her aides piled into a motorcade bound for the presidential palace...



Watch Bernie's Facial Expression As Hillary Cobbles Together A Response...


We Need A President With INTEGRITY! BERNIE SANDERS IS THAT PRESIDENT!

Yet Hillary Portrays Herself As A Climate Change Advocate in the interview with Chuck Todd today!
http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/full-interview-clinton-on-abortion-fbi-and-debates-658016835580

Susan Sarandon "I really want to be on the Right Side of History... This is a shot that we are not going to have again in my lifetime...."


CORPORATIST NATION POINT: Let's hope that America collectively recognizes this "revolution. We must remain optimistic that OUR voice will be acknowledged... by those who control the strings of power who will peacefully relinquish their grasp...
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Climate Change.. New York! Is Hillary's Integrity With Respect To Climate Change A Concern? (Original Post) CorporatistNation Apr 2016 OP
Upstate New York has.. CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #1
If one accepts that in transition from fossil fuels to renewable energy, natural gas is a better Hoyt Apr 2016 #2
Seems kind of a ... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #5
one should NOT accept natural gas as a transitional fuel with benefits BirdieSanders Apr 2016 #7
It's better than coal and oil in the short-run. Hoyt Apr 2016 #13
You should drink some water from a well contaminated by these chemicals and check your privelege Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #16
As Clinton said that would prevent Fracking. But, hey, why not spread crud. Read, don't yell at Hoyt Apr 2016 #17
Hillary Clinton is a liar. Fracking is inherently unsafe for drinking water and also for greenhouse Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #18
Clinton: "By time we get through my conditions, don't think there will be many places where fracking Hoyt Apr 2016 #19
Seems like a lie by a professional weasel a month before the election Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #20
Thank you Cheese for your replies <3 BirdieSanders Apr 2016 #21
ok! Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #23
She Always HAs To Have A Way Out... Her Method Is Defined As OBFUSCATION! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #22
I Imagine Hillary Is Aware of Oklahoma Now Being Second Behind california For EARTHQUAKES? CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #8
And under her, those wells would be closed. Hoyt Apr 2016 #14
How So? She Would Just... Come Up With Another condition... That IS Her MO! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #24
One more progressive value thrown away libtodeath Apr 2016 #9
The term means nothing. There are Sanders' supporters who think guns everywhere is "progressive." Hoyt Apr 2016 #15
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #3
She also supports Keystone XL riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #4
So Is Hillary's Position On Fracking In Line With That Of New Yorkers? Hailing FROM Western New York CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #6
Hillary's position is always... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #10
"send them BACK!" "kick their ASS and take their GAS!" "drill HERE drill NOW!" "let them DIE!" MisterP Apr 2016 #11
Natural gas burns cleaner than coal, which is why it was part of Obama's climate strategy. DanTex Apr 2016 #12
 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
1. Upstate New York has..
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:42 PM
Apr 2016

...a lot of people whom Rush Limbaugh refers to as environmental whackos.*

There is no fracking in New York.

Pipelines and compressor stations are fought tooth and nail.

Lot's of Bernie signs.

*Message to Rush: we also have a lot of clean air and water up here, too. Ask New York City about the water.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. If one accepts that in transition from fossil fuels to renewable energy, natural gas is a better
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:52 PM
Apr 2016

than oil or coal, then the best ways to extract that gas have to be considered. I am against fracking in most instances, but I'm not sure one should automatically condemn it in every case.

I think Clinton's position is reasonable:

She's against it "when any locality or any state is against it," "when the release of methane or contamination of water is present," and "unless we can require that anybody who fracks has to tell us exactly what chemicals they are using."

Until those conditions are met, "we've got to regulate everything that is currently underway, and we have to have a system in place that prevents further fracking." "By the time we get through all of my conditions, I do not think there will be many places in America where fracking will continue to take place," she added.


http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/03/hillary-clinton-debate-fracking


While Clinton has changed her position to that expressed above, Sanders does not see the nuances involved in promoting natural gas in the short-run. He's way too rigid, and afraid to tell the truth to potential voters, on most issues.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
17. As Clinton said that would prevent Fracking. But, hey, why not spread crud. Read, don't yell at
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:10 PM
Apr 2016

the sky.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
18. Hillary Clinton is a liar. Fracking is inherently unsafe for drinking water and also for greenhouse
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:12 PM
Apr 2016

gas emissions.

There is no way to make it safe.

Politicians who say that are lying because they are shills for the oil industry.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
19. Clinton: "By time we get through my conditions, don't think there will be many places where fracking
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:18 PM
Apr 2016

"By the time we get through all of my conditions, I do not think there will be many places in America where fracking will continue to take place . . . . . ."

Seems quite blunt to me.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
22. She Always HAs To Have A Way Out... Her Method Is Defined As OBFUSCATION!
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:52 PM
Apr 2016

She is the Queen of OBFUSCATION! Not a TRUTH teller by nature... She cannot give you the color of the shoes she has on w/o going into some multi-faceted discussion that never answers the question posed.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
15. The term means nothing. There are Sanders' supporters who think guns everywhere is "progressive."
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:06 PM
Apr 2016

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
6. So Is Hillary's Position On Fracking In Line With That Of New Yorkers? Hailing FROM Western New York
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:56 PM
Apr 2016

I would submit that she is not... And That is my point... Hillary's position on Climate Change is that ... it's not a net benefit for her based on her history... as noted. Glad to hear about all the Bernie signs... New Yorker's across the state are not easily duped!

In the end should bode well for Bernie and America! Thanks!

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
10. Hillary's position is always...
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:34 PM
Apr 2016

....'I agree with whatever the voters listening to this speech agree with.'

She does not want fracking in communities that don't want it, and vice versa.

That leaves a non-position for local communities to battle over.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
11. "send them BACK!" "kick their ASS and take their GAS!" "drill HERE drill NOW!" "let them DIE!"
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:49 PM
Apr 2016

and that's just the DEMOCRATS

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