2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary will take NY
By at least 10 points and same with PA. Winning NY by the 15 point is not happening.
revbones
(3,660 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)Right ....
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)and say it again in person. I doubt you'll be as confident then.
TMontoya
(369 posts)Check the polls. NYC is heavily favored for Clinton.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)TMontoya
(369 posts)Besides NY is closed and Sanders is not drawing much support in NY outside college kids. He is still down by over 200 delegates he missed his target tonight.
Red Oak
(697 posts)How'd that work out for ya?
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Aside from NY being a closed primary, but I don't think that is going to matter.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)First of all, I don't give a shit about polls.
I care about politics. I care about issues. I care about people. I don't care about for-profit polling companies and their modeling and the way they are used in attempts to manipulate and distract from people, issues and politics.
Isn't that beautifully retro? Like tokens!
Second, these polls look great!
Every primary outside the South has gone the same way. The polls have been consistently and radically wrong.
Early in the morning today, according to the laughably skewed-as-always polls, Sanders and Clinton were in a dead heat in Wisconsin. That is how I knew with certainty he was winning by 10%, minimum. (Currently: +12 with plenty of Madison to go.)
brooklynite
(94,331 posts)...and do you realize how little open space there is in Washington Square Park?
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)It will be packed. Beautifully so. At full density I figure 30,000 fit, and all the side streets will be full too. Why can't Hillary Clinton do that? Since she's so popular and all?
And all you've established is a fantasy world. Sanders' crowds are obviously translating into votes, and he keeps winning. And they will be getting bigger from here on in.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)It seems like only yesterday....
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)Yesterday all her troubles seemed so far away... Now she needs a place to hide away...
senseandsensibility
(16,929 posts)You have spoken. Send a copy of this to the Sanders campaign. I'm sure they'll surrender.
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)yayyyy!
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)Oh target and on the mark.
srobert
(81 posts)... is that if Hillary does not win New York, she's done. And there is a strong possibility that Bernie will win New York. One more prediction. The President elected in 2016 will be a non-establishment candidate. Better think carefully about that because there two of them. Which one do you want?
TMontoya
(369 posts)Have a good chance to win in NY. In fact theres a good chance he gets trounced. Check the polls.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)TMontoya
(369 posts)All latest polls show 15+ leads for Hillary. Even your outlier has him being beaten badly.
srobert
(81 posts)The polls I saw yesterday said at best Sanders would win Wisconsin by two points. Several polls said he'd lose last week. Hmm, only 89% of the vote is in now, but he is ahead by nearly 13 points. I think polls are being published by people who are trying to create self-fulfilling prophecies and discourage people from voting against the "inevitable".
longship
(40,416 posts)De-blah de-blah de-blah-blah.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I have. Don't count your chickens before they hatch...
TMontoya
(369 posts)And around here people support Hillary over Bernie by a lot. The size of his rallies is irrelevant.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)The size of his rallies is irrelevant...
The size of his rallies is irrelevant...
Jennylynn
(696 posts)noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)for a ride for far too long. I hope the voters in NY show her the exit door in a BIG APPLE sort of way.
Impedimentus
(898 posts)The Cuomo machine knows how to get the votes out.
FEEL THE BERN - 2016
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Panama!!!!!!!!!
yourout
(7,524 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)as of yesterday
Solid lead with only 2 weeks to go. I doubt many will sift their votes at the point. She will likely win by 15 or more points.
Impedimentus
(898 posts)YASSIR THE FAT
(49 posts)and polls are wrong again when Bernie defeats Clinton by 17%.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)and it's a poll number now
TMontoya
(369 posts)Step out of the bubble and get back to reality. There is no chance he wins let alone by that much.