Where do people get his idea Bernie is winning NY?

[TMontoya]

All of his past wins were predicted to go for him. NY however is expected heavily for Hillary, and the margin is just too big to overcome. Clinton is very popular in NYC and the rest of the state, she is likely to win it by 15+ points, will there be cries of fraud when that happens?

[kcjohn1]

1. WI POLL 2 WEEKS OUT: Clinton +6

Sanders +13

NY Poll 3 weeks out, Clinton +10.

Why can't Bernie move the needle again by +13 for 3 point win?

[dchill]

2. Carpetbagger vs. Homeboy.

She is NOT likely to win by 5 points, let alone 15. What has happened to her "leads" in the last 6 primaries/caucuses?

Answer that. THEN strut.

[TMontoya]

6. Sorry

But no one is calling Bernie a NYer. He isn't by any stretch. She is likely to win by at least 10 most likely 15+. Polls show it.

[revbones]

16. Sure, tell the locals that about someone born and raised in Brooklyn... nt

[catnhatnh]

17. Are you fucking Kidding me???

He was fucking born there. He was raised there. He lived there til his 2nd year of college. She carpetbagged in to grab an easy seat in congress. After her home states of Illinois, Arkansas, And Washington DC. And SHE'S the New Yorker???

[dchill]

45. I still say she "lived there" for about 10 minutes.

She ran for Senator just so she could run for President. I'm not even a New Yorker, and I can see through that. Wow, you named a post office. So great.

Ambition for its own sake is so narcissistic. Fooling a New Yorker is not easy, and never forgotten.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

22. so, you live in NY then obviously. what part?

[Old Codger]

64. Really??

Have you actually watched the total lack of accuracy in the polls so far........... Maybe you had best take a look at how badly they have performed to date, would hate to have bet anything on them..If you want to cheer the hill on go for it but maybe you should you something else to "prove" her supremacy.

[Maedhros]

75. Well, that was an ill-informed and poorly-executed post.

No need to waste any more time with others like it.

/ignore.

[ViseGrip]

14. ^^^this^^^

[brush]

3. After New Yorkers read that Daily News interview of Sanders . . .

her lead will go up even more. He embarrassed himself.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511649233

[TMontoya]

8. I saw that

What a debacle of an interview. His answer to anything Not evil Wall St....."I don't know".

[Viva_La_Revolution]

27. did you read the interview or just the opinion piece trashing it?

And please reply with details. Specifically which of his answers do you disagree with?

[brush]

50. I read it this morning, which is why I posted the link

And btw, what a debacle for him.

If you haven't read it, read it. That's all you'll get from me. I don't work for you.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

56. you are the first to reply yes!

So what answers specifically do you have an issue with?

[KMOD]

44. He's done.

[SheenaR]

47. The Daily News and Post

Have been trashing her for days. One cover is not changing the race

[brush]

57. Seems we're not talking anout the same thing.

The editorial board of the New York Dailly News published and interview with Bernie Sanders.

It didn't go at all well for him.

It was not a cover, it was a policy interview and a major fail for Sanders.

[SheenaR]

59. He's on the cover tomorrow

And I know exactly what you are talking about.

[BillZBubb]

4. 38 posts. Does Hillary pay you by the post for this crap?

No, all his wins were not predicted to go for him. And many that he's won he got much larger margins than predicted.

Hillary isn't winning NY by 15%. She'll be lucky to win it at all.

[TMontoya]

10. lol

Is this a joke? She is a shoo in to win NY. Margins are irrelevant. Any win by her puts Sanders out of the race.

[BillZBubb]

15. I hope I am the first to put you on ignore. You said 15%. It isn't going to happen and you know it.

Stay clueless my friend.

[Armstead]

5. He's not winning, but he's gaining..And Sanders is popular in eastern upstate

[TMontoya]

11. So

Not in NYC and the rest of the state. Closed primary diverse state spells Sanders doom.

[JimDandy]

7. So many fresh faces.

Yeah, Hillary is definitely nervous.

[KMOD]

49. ^^^ There it is again.

[artislife]

53. There are all minty fresh

but somehow seem stale. Why is that, I wonder????

[JI7]

9. he is originally from there before moving to vermont

[TMontoya]

13. Yeah so?

No one cares about that. He's seen as a Vermonter and not a NYer. Hillary will eat him alive if he tries to pull that. And so will NY.

[catnhatnh]

21. Do you realize that one of them

...has a Bronx accent and that may be the only one I haven't seen Hillary try

[TMontoya]

23. No one cares

He's not a NYer. Hillary is more of a NYer than he is. Being born there doesn't count.

[catnhatnh]

25. You

Are not especially bright.

[TMontoya]

30. Its over

for Bernie in NY. Not enough college kids and no independants. NY is Clinton country. She is VERY popular there.

[Ed Suspicious]

31. +1

[mak3cats]

52. You

Are not especially ungenerous. The poster is not at all bright!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

32. are you an adult? kids get on here by mistake sometimes...

We prefer a higher level of discourse.

[KMOD]

41. Step off.

Almost everyone is tired of this rudeness.

Grow up. Not everyone is a frickin Berniebot.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

54. his very first post on this board was rude, and every one i've seen after

He obviously came here to argue

[TMontoya]

58. How so?

Because I'm not worshipping at the Sanders alter?

[KMOD]

62. Yup.

And that effects all of us, not just our new members.

Welcome to Democratic Underground.

You joined at quite a crazy time, lol.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

65. i just looked in your journal, and saw your many posts. replied to a few even

Where do people get his idea Bernie is winning NY?

All of his past wins were predicted to go for him. NY however is expected heavily for Hillary, and the margin is just too big to overcome. Clinton is very popular in NYC and the rest of the state, she is likely to win it by 15+ points, will there be cries of fraud when that happens?

Edit: example 1

[KMOD]

60. People join and argue for both candidates.

New supporters of any Democratic candidate should feel welcome.

We have MIRT for a reason, and they usually do a wonderful job of sorting things out.

[artislife]

55. Oh...that just might be something we have to look forward to!

I'm Hilly from the block, I used to have a little, but now I have a lot!

[liberal_at_heart]

12. Is tonight's loss making you nervous? Nice board spamming.

[HassleCat]

19. Probably correct

But Hillary was set to win WI at one point, then down only a couple points a couple days ago. So she should win her home state by at least ten points. We do know what "home state" means, right? A lukewarm victory in NY could pose problems for her, with CA still on the horizon. If she wants to finish off Bernie, she should plan on 15 points at the very least.

[TMontoya]

20. CA

Is going to break for for Hillary, Polls consistently show that as well.

[HassleCat]

28. Certainly. Absolutely. No question.

Because those polls have been so deadly accurate so far.

[scottie55]

70. Rotary Phone Polls?

Must be.

[Kalidurga]

24. How adorable

It's like you don't read the news or look at the poll numbers a couple weeks before every state Bernie has won thus far. 15 points isn't enough to ensure Hillary is going to win. In fact after the news that has come out lately has a chance to sink in people's noggins she will be lucky if she only loses by a couple points.

[TMontoya]

26. Not a chance

Bernie is done in NY and the debate will hurt him even more. Sorry but your precious idies will have no say in a real primary.

[Kalidurga]

29. I have been reading that for over 6 months.

And Bernie is still hanging in there. Hillary is toast. Not the Jesus kind just regular toast.

[TMontoya]

33. Not really

2 million more votes 200 delegate lead and a solid lead in NY PA and MD. Shes cruising, and will easily pick up a solid win in NY. Not possible for him to close the gap.

[Kalidurga]

36. Well good luck with your fantasy world

Since real life isn't bound to follow your wishes and polls change so there is that.

[TMontoya]

37. Fantasy world?

Sorry I don't support Sanders.

[Kalidurga]

38. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511657694

[TMontoya]

40. Irrelevant

Closed primary, diverse population and of course Clinton country.

[Kalidurga]

46. Uh huh just keep going with that.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1657658

and that's how Indians became white.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

34. People are beginning to notice the compulsive lying from Clinton. People hate liars.

And she's a liar. That's kind of the beginning and the end of it.

[longship]

35. Uhhh! Because he's winning everywhere?

Maybe that has something to do about it.

Don't ya think?

[TMontoya]

39. He is?

According to states she is winning by over 2 million votes and over 200 delegates.

[longship]

42. Blah-de-blah de-blah de-blah. Blah blah! nt

[mak3cats]

43. Maybe because I live here?

And maybe because even though the party establishment is "supporting" Hillary, most long-term Democratic committee people are supporting Bernie in my part of the state? You know not of what you speak. So sorry to disappoint you.

[scottie55]

48. How Many New Yorkers Like The Candidate That Helps The 1% Evade Taxes?

TYT - Bernie Fought Tax Havens While Hillary Lobbied For Them

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017350443#post5

I think the people of New York are smarter than that.

I am sure the billionaires appreciate the help they get from the Clintons, and Fox News.

[TMontoya]

51. Keep trying to smear

Its not working with NY. Have fun railing against Wall St in NY. I'm sure all those Dems who aren't rich would love to pay all of his new taxes.

[scottie55]

71. Some Would Actually Like To Be Able To See A Doctor

Without going bankrupt.

Or maybe send their kids to kollege.

Or keep their kids from having their legs blown off by IED's.

Shall I continue?

Try this one.

Her platform is hocus pocus.

[TMontoya]

72. So says you

But NY resonates with Clinton. As the trends are showing.

[scottie55]

74. 7 Out Of 8

That is a trend.

[Red Oak]

61. Wall Strret likes her! A lot!

Heck, they pay her over half a million dollars to whisper sweet nothings in their ear behind closed doors.

[SheilaT]

63. All of his past wins were predicted to go for him? Remember Michigan?

Nate Silver gave Hillary a 99% chance of winning, and that she'd get 60% of the vote. You might want to look up the actual results.

Oh, and Kansas. She was supposed to win the Kansas caucuses. The actual result? Bernie totally blew her away.

So there is no way on god's green earth she's going to win NY the way things are going, let alone by 15 points.

And the best Bernie was given in Wisconsin was something like maybe 2 or 3 percent on her. In reality his win is by 13%. So he has been out-performing the polling by huge amounts for quite a while now.

[TMontoya]

66. Nice fantasy

She has NY in the bag. Im sorry if you believe all the hype but reality and math are relevant here.

[SheilaT]

69. Fantasy?

She had Michigan in the bag. And Kansas. And Wisconsin. And New Hampshire.

Plus, of course, her desperation is showing with the announcement that she's lost patience and is really going to go after him now. And she can't raise even a fraction of the money he's been raising -- his from small donations, hers from big-dollar events only open to a few. That's not a way to persuade average voters you really are looking out for them.

[paulthompson]

68. Not just that!

Sanders beats the polls by a fair amount in almost every state outside the South! Look at this list:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511617438

I heard someone recently ran the numbers and figured out that he beats the final polls by an average of 13 points outside the South. Tonight in Wisconsin he "only" beat the Real Clear Politics final poll average of 2.5 points by 10 points.

[SheilaT]

73. Yep. And I wish I knew the right kind of math

to extrapolate forward to figure out how he'll do in the remaining primaries. I could contact a former math teacher of mine who's a Bernie supporter, but he's retired, and it seems rude to ask him to do math like that. Although I have a son who's a strong math person, and he might be able to figure it out for me.

In any case, as you've pointed out, he continues to do vastly better than the pre-primary or pre-caucus polls. Plus, since the Hillary delegates apparently weren't real committed to her, about half of them never showed up at the second round of that state's caucus process, flipping Nevada and changing delegate counts there. Makes me wonder if that will happen in any other of the caucus states.

[scottie55]

67. This Panama Thing Will Really Hurt Hillary

Everyone knows she supported helping them create the tax havens.

She is on record supporting the Tax Haven Creation bill for Panama.

Hillary thinks paying taxes is only for working Americans it appears.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017350443#post5

[840high]

76. Yep.