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BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:26 PM Apr 2016

Hillary on CNN: "Successful Presidents hit the ground running."

Right Hillary, like Bill did. He appointed you to lead the effort to achieve healthcare reform, which you botched. He passed NAFTA, which you later claimed his administration inherited. He said he couldn't deliver that middle class tax cut he had campaigned on and pushed through a tax increase that passed by one vote in the House (without one Republican vote) that doomed many Democrats who voted for it. Then we had the Republican rout in his first midterm election which brought us Republican control of both houses of Congress for the first time in 40 years, Speaker Gingrich and The Contract With America.

Bill really hit the ground running.

Then Hillary brought Dick Morris into the White House to advise Bill, the progressives among his advisors were walled off, and his policies took a sharp turn to the right with financial deregulation, the Crime Bill, the Welfare Reform Bill and the Telecommunications Bill. And the Democratic Party abandoned its legacy of FDR to became the second party of business and big money, which it has remained to this day.

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Hillary on CNN: "Successful Presidents hit the ground running." (Original Post) BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 OP
Nice summary! peacebird Apr 2016 #1
That is a complete misrepresentation of history upaloopa Apr 2016 #2
Which ones? daleanime Apr 2016 #4
Yes we did ibegurpard Apr 2016 #5
And DADT.... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #12
Such a big accusation should be backed up or it just looks awful on your part. merrily Apr 2016 #9
no it wasnt. tell us which are wrong roguevalley Apr 2016 #14
Well, it does omit a lot of the Clintons' skullduggery, that's true nt nichomachus Apr 2016 #21
I remember it exactly this way. TM99 Apr 2016 #23
I lived it, and that's how I remember it Politicalboi Apr 2016 #28
Bill Clinton did the possible. hollowdweller Apr 2016 #33
K&R..... daleanime Apr 2016 #3
When was the last time anyone observed Hillary running? merrily Apr 2016 #6
Hillary is going to run us straight to war. WDIM Apr 2016 #7
War and TPP -- She's gonna get things done! Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #15
I was reading this article last night notadmblnd Apr 2016 #8
Good article BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #20
In Hillary's case it would be running away from progressives ... earthside Apr 2016 #10
Well, you have to hit the ground running or the Bosnian snipers will get you. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2016 #11
Sorry, we posted at about the same time - didn't see your post but you get credit for being first. Impedimentus Apr 2016 #17
Didn't they have pictures of all the danger though? beedle Apr 2016 #19
I found a picture of her in action during the assault see post #25. she saved two dozen troops and Dragonfli Apr 2016 #27
I heard that her "muscular" foreign policy advantages grew from her courage fighting back against Dragonfli Apr 2016 #25
Except when they are in Bosnia in a helicopter, running away from imaginary rocket grenades. Impedimentus Apr 2016 #13
While they dodge sniper fire? LOL imagine2015 Apr 2016 #16
It helps if you Serpentine BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #18
Doing the right things are far more important than just passing shit. yourout Apr 2016 #22
She might be running from the law.... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #24
Is this another of those "sniper" stories? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #26
Great minds - thinking the same thing when I clicked the thread .. nt Jarqui Apr 2016 #30
Obama proved to be the worst negotiator in Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #29
While I do not agree... Mike Nelson Apr 2016 #31
Dodging sniper fire as she goes... Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #32
I saw the interview... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #34
Yes, the lie about guns and trying to turn Sandy Hook against Bernie was a disgrace BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #35

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
2. That is a complete misrepresentation of history
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:28 PM
Apr 2016

Some of us lived it.

You twisting facts to rewrite history to suit your selfish needs is not honorable

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
12. And DADT....
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:40 PM
Apr 2016

Forced us LGBTQ to live in fear if one wanted to pursue a military career for risk of being outed and professionally ruined...

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
23. I remember it exactly this way.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:26 PM
Apr 2016

Why?

Because it is reality.

You might want to go review some history texts.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
28. I lived it, and that's how I remember it
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:39 PM
Apr 2016

Bill Clinton had affairs too. He risked EVERYTHING for his own pleasure. The Clinton's risk our future all the time. They don't care, they have enough money to buy their own island and live happily ever after.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
33. Bill Clinton did the possible.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:45 PM
Apr 2016

The country was way farther to the right at that time and the attitude was what was good for business was good for the US.

Clinton helped the big guys, he had to. It's not like today where you can raise boatloads of money off the internet and basically run a campaign solely on helping the little guy like Bernie is doing so far. Heck even Bernie may lose because the corporate media is against him.

Despite saying that he was against trickle down one of the ways Clinton tried to help the little guy was by making the employment market so tight, and giving the rich so much money that wages ticked up slightly for the middle. It wasn't near what was needed but what was needed was not possible.

Sure he was the point man for sending jobs to China and Mexico, also he helped deregulate the financial industry which sent our jobs overseas and laid the groundwork for the financial crisis but he basically had no choice if he wanted to get the GOP congress to let him even let a few crumbs fall to the working people.

Times are difft now and it's unfair to compare.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
7. Hillary is going to run us straight to war.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:31 PM
Apr 2016

Her chicken-hawk status is well known. Always ready to send other people's kids to unnecessary wars.

Shes going to finish her PNAC neo-con strategy take out Syria than Iran.

War is guaranteed with Clinton as commander and chief.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
8. I was reading this article last night
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:31 PM
Apr 2016

In it- it describes Hillary's behavior in the White House and the role she played during his Presidency. I found it interesting, you may too.

Hillary Clinton’s strengths and anger in White House revealed
11/26/14 06:52 AM
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By Alex Seitz-Wald

Hillary Clinton’s prominent role in her husband’s White House caused friction with the president’s staff, which occasionally erupted in her anger, according to newly released oral histories from the time.

The five dozen never-before-seen interviews with top officials offer a new window into the inner workings of the Clinton White House. The interviews, which were made public this month, were conducted in the mid-2000s by the University of Virginia’s Miller Center, which has an official partnership with Clinton’s presidential library.... more http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clintons-strengths-and-anger-white-house-revealed

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
20. Good article
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:49 PM
Apr 2016

Thanks for posting the link. Is this the kind of personality that should be commander in chief?

<Joan Baggett, who served as assistant to the president for political affairs, said people didn’t feel comfortable pushing back on the first lady, even when she was wrong.

“She would blow up over something that she misinterpreted. Again, you can’t take her on, that’s not my boss. You can’t take on the First Lady,” Baggert said. “I remember one time in one of these meetings where she was blowing up about [Bill Clinton’s] staff and how we were all incompetent and he was having to be the mechanic and drive the car and do everything, that we weren’t capable of anything.”>


earthside

(6,960 posts)
10. In Hillary's case it would be running away from progressives ...
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:34 PM
Apr 2016

... like she is doing right now.

If by some great misfortune Clinton becomes president she would hit the ground running as fast as she could to fulfill her obligations to her banker donor base.

She would be a terrible president.

Impedimentus

(898 posts)
17. Sorry, we posted at about the same time - didn't see your post but you get credit for being first.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:43 PM
Apr 2016


FEEL THE BERN - 2016
 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
19. Didn't they have pictures of all the danger though?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016

Like the ones where she was using all those schoolgirls as human shields?

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
27. I found a picture of her in action during the assault see post #25. she saved two dozen troops and
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:35 PM
Apr 2016

the children that day with bravery and distinction.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
25. I heard that her "muscular" foreign policy advantages grew from her courage fighting back against
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:31 PM
Apr 2016

those snipers!

I think there is a picture of her defending both her daughter and the troops during the incident.... hold on.... looking in the basement for the box of newspaper clips with the picture.....

....OK found the box, just one more sec and i'll fetch the picture of Hill in action during the Bosnia event....

Found it!


Impedimentus

(898 posts)
13. Except when they are in Bosnia in a helicopter, running away from imaginary rocket grenades.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:41 PM
Apr 2016

FEEL THE BERN - 2016

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
24. She might be running from the law....
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:29 PM
Apr 2016

The FBI isn't going to give her a pass just because she thinks she deserves one.

If she broke the law, she needs to be held accountable. No one should be above the law.

Mike Nelson

(9,943 posts)
31. While I do not agree...
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:44 PM
Apr 2016

... with your thesis and have no desire to debate it, that's a persuasively presented negative Clinton essay. Bonus points for throwing in toe-sucking Dick Morris!

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
34. I saw the interview...
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 04:01 PM
Apr 2016

and aside from a lot of inappropriate and what seemed to be nervous laughter by Hillary, she blatantly lied about the intentions of the Sandy Hook lawsuit and what Bernie said about it. She claimed that manufacturers of other types of products are liable, only the gun manufacturers are not. That's a total lie and misrepresentation of what product liability is.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
35. Yes, the lie about guns and trying to turn Sandy Hook against Bernie was a disgrace
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 04:14 PM
Apr 2016

That kind of garbage is straight out of the Karl Rove playbook.

Bernie was fighting for progressive causes while Hillary was a Goldwater Girl. He has a D- record with the NRA while representing a state full of hunters. And Hillary tries to paint him as indifferent to gun violence. She shows every day why her net negatives are almost as bad as Trump's.

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