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Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:38 PM Apr 2016

How much of Bernie's support is coming from right wingers wanting an easier candidate to defeat?

Much of Bernie's support is coming from so-called Independents. How many of them are voting for Bernie because they think that he is the easier candidate to defeat in the general election? See Sen. McCaskill's strategy with Todd Aiken in the MO senate race of 2012.

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How much of Bernie's support is coming from right wingers wanting an easier candidate to defeat? (Original Post) Yavin4 Apr 2016 OP
Nil. morningfog Apr 2016 #1
There's probably a few, and are they ever in for a surprise. Scuba Apr 2016 #17
If they can read polls, nil. lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #26
I think we won't know until they write the history of this election years from now. upaloopa Apr 2016 #2
lol ibegurpard Apr 2016 #3
If that is the case ... salinsky Apr 2016 #15
That's going to change soon Politicalboi Apr 2016 #22
I'm not "worried" ... salinsky Apr 2016 #23
because the dnc changed the rules so her strong states would vote first Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #31
^^^^ Yes, they have been actively working to get Hillary elected with any/all means possible. lastone Apr 2016 #38
How much of HRC's is from Independents grntuscarora Apr 2016 #4
Some TV pundits say Obama's critiques of Trump... lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #33
If they wanted an easier candidate to defeat they would be voting for Hillary! imagine2015 Apr 2016 #5
I found many of them in WI while phone banking and canvassing. riversedge Apr 2016 #6
Zero Clinton would be easier to beat. WDIM Apr 2016 #7
A hell of a lot less than right wingers voting for Hillary awake Apr 2016 #8
Is this the type of fanfic Hillarians are into? GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #9
None. Punkingal Apr 2016 #10
Oh dear gawd...Hillary is the easier one to beat by all numbers. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #11
Trump would make mincemeat out of Hillary nichomachus Apr 2016 #14
A years worth of polling tells people with two or more brain cells that Bernie is much tougher Schema Thing Apr 2016 #12
Probably about zero. earthside Apr 2016 #13
This is like right-wingers shouting about voter fraud. Marr Apr 2016 #16
Don't "think" doesn't disprove it. There's only one way to ever find out. grossproffit Apr 2016 #20
You're the one making the claim. Marr Apr 2016 #29
Quite a bit considering some of the posts on this forum. grossproffit Apr 2016 #18
Hillary might do as well as Barry Goldwater did in 1964. She can tell you all about that campaign! imagine2015 Apr 2016 #19
They would vote for Hillary Politicalboi Apr 2016 #21
Many of us know that Bernie would be like a deer caught in the headlights. grossproffit Apr 2016 #24
Very little, likely none, from GOP or ultra / tea party right. PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #25
none. they are too busy with their own circus Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #27
Zip. Zero. Zilch. basselope Apr 2016 #28
do you think there are rightwingers pretending to be bernie supporters on political boards? MariaThinks Apr 2016 #30
If this is all you got and it appears that this is all you got Kalidurga Apr 2016 #32
How much of Hillary's support comes from Reagan loving reactionaries? Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #34
He's not easier to defeat and Hillary is not now nor has she ever been a progressive. Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #35
Bernie is attracting ex-patriot democrats back from the vast wasteland to the left... immoderate Apr 2016 #36
Scoffing Faux pas Apr 2016 #37
Approximately .03% JackRiddler Apr 2016 #39
42 Teamster Jeff Apr 2016 #40
The NRA ROFF Apr 2016 #41
Fits the "new" strategy nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #42

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
26. If they can read polls, nil.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:07 PM
Apr 2016

It's obvious from the polls that Bernie is by far the more difficult candidate to beat in the General Election.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
3. lol
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:41 PM
Apr 2016

This is the stupidest notion out there. People really don't like Hillary and they really do like Bernie.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
15. If that is the case ...
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:47 PM
Apr 2016

... why does Hillary have a couple million more votes than Bernie?

Inquiring minds want to know ...

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
22. That's going to change soon
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:57 PM
Apr 2016

And now we have the Panama Papers with the Clinton Foundation up to their assholes in it. Don't worry, Bernie will beat her.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
23. I'm not "worried" ...
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:01 PM
Apr 2016

... if Hillary loses for some reason (spoiler alert; she won't), I'll happily vote for Bernie.

I'm Democrat like that.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
31. because the dnc changed the rules so her strong states would vote first
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:12 PM
Apr 2016

After she lost in 2008 they rearranged the states so she would appear inevitable, but now it has begun to backfire.

 

lastone

(588 posts)
38. ^^^^ Yes, they have been actively working to get Hillary elected with any/all means possible.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:35 PM
Apr 2016

The "New Third Way Southern Strategy" was designed to provide her a comfortable delegate lead as early as possible and the south is the only place where this is more assured than not. I believe it was designed to push voters into the she's inevitable camp and discourage any other candidate or supporters of an other than HRC candidate as early in the primary as possible. Similar but not as nefarious as the republican redistricting crap they are repeatedly shot down in court for, similar but different in effect at having states "called" early in the day (night) for a candidate based on the small sample sizes we've see in some states. When one hears the election has been called and is still waiting in lice to vote, perhaps they head home as they do not think their votes will even be counted. When the D candidate acts like a lite R we should all be horrified, the DNC and HRC camp have been using the same tactics in this primary.

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
4. How much of HRC's is from Independents
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:41 PM
Apr 2016

looking to her to be the Republican party unifier?

Probably not many, but it's as likely as your scenario.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
33. Some TV pundits say Obama's critiques of Trump...
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:13 PM
Apr 2016

...are intended to get Trump's base out, so he will be the nominee - and destroy the GOP.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
5. If they wanted an easier candidate to defeat they would be voting for Hillary!
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:41 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie does much better than Hillary against all of the potential Republican candidates for President.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
7. Zero Clinton would be easier to beat.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:42 PM
Apr 2016

Voting against Clinton motivates the Repug base like no other and Democratic base will be unenthusiastic and low turn out for Clinton.

awake

(3,226 posts)
8. A hell of a lot less than right wingers voting for Hillary
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:42 PM
Apr 2016

I am sure she is counting on all of her Republican friends on Wall Street to vote for her oh thats right NY is a closed Primary.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
9. Is this the type of fanfic Hillarians are into?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:43 PM
Apr 2016

How dare people like Bernie Sanders the candidate, it must be a big ruse to cheat democrats out of nominating the weathervane.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
11. Oh dear gawd...Hillary is the easier one to beat by all numbers.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:43 PM
Apr 2016

Honesty?
Trustworthiness?
Likability?
Dislike?

All her negatives are high. That is the easiest one to beat. Bernie's record is stellar!

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
14. Trump would make mincemeat out of Hillary
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:47 PM
Apr 2016

By the time he was finished with her, even Bill wouldn't vote for her.

Trump is a bareknuckles campaigner and all Hillary has is focus group doublespeak.

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
12. A years worth of polling tells people with two or more brain cells that Bernie is much tougher
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016

to beat than Hillary, for Republicans.

Common sense tells you that as well.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
13. Probably about zero.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:45 PM
Apr 2016

I know a lot of right-wingers and Tea Partiers.

Some might believe Sen. Sanders would be easier to beat than Clinton, but never in a million years would they vote for a socialist ... even for tactical purposes.

Besides, I'm not hearing from my right-wing acquaintances that they think Sanders will be easier to beat than Clinton. They can go on for hours about how corrupt, deceitful and dishonest is Hillary -- they are aching for a chance to vote against her.

Clinton will be easier for the Repuglicans to defeat, anyway -- she is crooked, in my opinion, and highly scandal prone; her arrogance and smugness makes her extraordinarily dislikable. If Democrats want a much better chance at keeping the White House, they will abandon this 'HER' mirage and nominate Sen. Sanders.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
16. This is like right-wingers shouting about voter fraud.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:47 PM
Apr 2016

It might make you feel better, but I don't think it's a factor.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
29. You're the one making the claim.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:11 PM
Apr 2016

Your question assumes that Republican infiltrators are a factor. Unless there's some data that supports your claim, it's just a conspiracy theory.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
18. Quite a bit considering some of the posts on this forum.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:49 PM
Apr 2016

Many are directly from the right wings playbook.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
19. Hillary might do as well as Barry Goldwater did in 1964. She can tell you all about that campaign!
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:50 PM
Apr 2016

LOL

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
21. They would vote for Hillary
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:55 PM
Apr 2016

She speaks to them. She speaks MONEY. And she would be easier to defeat in November. We all know that.

PufPuf23

(8,755 posts)
25. Very little, likely none, from GOP or ultra / tea party right.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:07 PM
Apr 2016

Support for Sanders is from the left wing / New Deal Democrats segment of the Democratic Party and from Independents that have left or at least favored the Democratic Party.

It is delusional to think otherwise.

Do you know in your personal life or in the public sphere a single right winger championing Sanders?

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
30. do you think there are rightwingers pretending to be bernie supporters on political boards?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:11 PM
Apr 2016

some of the arguments in favor of Bernie and against Hillary are not progressive at all.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
32. If this is all you got and it appears that this is all you got
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:12 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary's campaign is in deep trouble.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
34. How much of Hillary's support comes from Reagan loving reactionaries?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:20 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary was pandering to someone with her bullshit lies about Reagan being an AIDS hero and LGBT not doing a thing to help themselves. Who was she reaching out to with that crap? You defended that horrific and hugely ignorant rhetoric.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
35. He's not easier to defeat and Hillary is not now nor has she ever been a progressive.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:25 PM
Apr 2016

The hawk on foreign policy and her money from WS..woohoo.

Such an inspiring candidate who has trustworthy ratings so low
one has to wonder why anyone is voting for her in the primary.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
36. Bernie is attracting ex-patriot democrats back from the vast wasteland to the left...
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:28 PM
Apr 2016

of the Democratic Party. Anybody more liberal than Richard Nixon has no representation in our government. Now at least there's Bernie who at minimum is a New Dealer.

--imm

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