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Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:10 PM

A Political Revolutuion In The Making? The Pieces May Well Be Falling Into Place!

It's happening... and Clinton may well be unable to stop it... Could... "We The People" Finally Achieve REAL CHANGE?

Media coverage of Sanders is starting to shift from dismissive to grudging respect...

There is also starting to be a change in how the Sanders campaign is getting covered in the corporate media. In Pennsylvania, the state’s main newspaper, the Philadelphia Inquirer, has been consistently dismissive of the Sanders campaign, but the morning after the Temple rally, the paper’s front page featured a large photo showing a crush of young supports struggling to shake Sanders’ hand over a headline that read “Sanders stirs a frenzy in visit to Temple.”

As the Sanders campaign continues to surge (he’s now won seven of the last eight primary contests, all by landslides or even by tsunami margins), and as polls in states like Pennsylvania and New York where he was once down by 30-40 points, narrow to low single digits weeks before the next round of primaries, Clinton’s team, increasingly desperate to turn things around, is reportedly shifting to a campaign strategy of “disqualify him, defeat him, and unify the party later.”

Even cops’ kids are backing Bernie

As we were heading back to our car with from the rally, my wife and I found ourselves walking behind the head of Temple University’s police department, which had largely handled the security and traffic issues caused by the huge all-day line of people coming to attend the rally. A tall crew-cut wearing guy who looked 100% cop, when we complemented him on how his officers had handled the crowd management issue, he told us his own 21-year-old son was a “Bernie supporter.” SNIP


WHAT IF?

But what if, as seems increasingly likely, Trump goes to the Republican convention with the largest number of delegates but not an absolute majority, and then at a brokered convention, party leaders install an alternative candidate — either Ted Cruz or perhaps a more “acceptable” candidate? Trump has already warned that he might in that case run as an independent or third party candidate — something he clearly has the support and the money to do.

At that point we’d have a three-way race between Clinton, a Republican and Trump. What would Sanders do then? His backers, who have already provided his campaign with over $140 million in small donations and seem to be a bottomless well of support, will be calling for him to run too. Perhaps he would. If it came to that, perhaps the Green Party should consider the bold idea of making him its standard bearer — a move that would assure his already high-flying campaign a place on the ballot in virtually every state, and that would simultaneously suddenly catapult the Green Party from an election footnote capable of winning a percent or two of votes to a major-league party vying for the top prize (and maybe some seats in Congress into the bargain).

Maybe that’s a fantasy, but it’s a beautiful one, entailing as it would the decimation of the two massively corrupt parties that have conspired to stymie political change in the US for generations. SNIP


http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/04/07/clintons-crumbling-bernies-surging-political-revolution-offing/ SNIP


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Reply A Political Revolutuion In The Making? The Pieces May Well Be Falling Into Place! (Original post)
CorporatistNation Apr 2016 OP
Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #1
KPN Apr 2016 #2
Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #3
KPN Apr 2016 #4
Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #11
AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #13
Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #14
AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #16
Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #17
AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #19
Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #21
AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #22
DrDan Apr 2016 #24
fighting-irish Apr 2016 #30
DrDan Apr 2016 #35
Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #6
Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #7
Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #10
Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #12
timmymoff Apr 2016 #18
fighting-irish Apr 2016 #29
Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #31
fighting-irish Apr 2016 #33
Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #34
Peace Patriot Apr 2016 #5
BillZBubb Apr 2016 #8
kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #9
Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #15
azmom Apr 2016 #20
CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #23
SidDithers Apr 2016 #25
Trust Buster Apr 2016 #26
CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #28
Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #32
Trust Buster Apr 2016 #36
Octafish Apr 2016 #27

Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:14 PM

1. Yes, I have been watching the "we the people" and they are voting for Hillary, it is time for

we the people to see this majority to the end, Hillary has more delegates and will be the nominee.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:24 PM

2. Keep thinkingabout it dreamer!

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Response to KPN (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:27 PM

3. It is the math, can't deny Hillary has more votes and delegates, so how is the dreamer?

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:34 PM

4. At the moment. But regardless,

as you Hillarians tend to ceaselessly point out, it's not the national polls that count, delegates are decided at the State level not national. Bernie's looking very good right now as far as delegates go projecting out. Hillary is collapsing.

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Response to KPN (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:21 PM

11. So when Sanders got ten less delegates, was his campaign collapsing?

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:41 PM

13. She is bleeding support

 

He is steadily rising

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #13)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:46 PM

14. Ten at a time will not give results he needs to obtain the needed delegates.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #14)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:06 PM

16. She has been steadily losing support for a year

 

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #16)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:31 PM

17. Okay, the voting results continue to show she is in the lead vote wise and delegate numbers.

Currently Sanders needs to get 60% of the results to get the number of required delegates. BTW, all primaries have happened in 2016.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:41 PM

19. She has gained no new support in a year

 

And has lost about 40% over that time. Momentum, Hillary style!

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #19)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:51 PM

21. Then she had great support last year to have lost so much support and still

Be this far ahead.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #21)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:52 PM

22. Deceleration

 

Not a good thing going into a general election.

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Response to KPN (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 06:41 PM

24. collapsing - as in Bernie winning Wyoming today - and they split delegates 7-7

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Response to DrDan (Reply #24)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:50 PM

30. with questionable "surrogate" votes.

 

Good job!

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Response to fighting-irish (Reply #30)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 06:44 AM

35. and with the token conspiracy theory

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:49 PM

6. And just where does all her support come from? Would YOU like to live in the Bible Belt?




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Response to Land of Enchantment (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 02:01 PM

7. What difference is the votes in one stare or the other, all states have

Voters, ergo, we the people have spoken. Sanders complains about oligarchy but apparently some believe a small group should be in charge, no, it is the will of we the people.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 02:48 PM

10. You seem confused. I vote on June 7th. Have you voted yet? If so why

should your vote determine the winner before I get to vote? What if the primary/caucus schedule was flipped backwards and the deep south voted last? Do you think the people there would not want their votes to count? You have a circular argument that you can't defend. Ever been on a debate team? Apparently not.

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Response to Land of Enchantment (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:35 PM

12. I am not confused, all primaries will count, all votes will count, we the people

Speaks through a majority, I do not want oligarchy ruling my country so therefore I vote. What makes you think the delegates from your state count any more or less than any other state? Primaries are held on different days, delegates are determined on the different days, the delegates vote at the convention, BTW, the vote will be called by states.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:40 PM

18. Me this person

 

will not vote for Hillary. Nomination or not! I'd rather fight in the streets than die at the ballot box.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:49 PM

29. We the people have already largely rejected Clinton.

 

Bernie will win the rest of the states in a convincing fashion.

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Response to fighting-irish (Reply #29)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:55 PM

31. No, look at the vote totals, we the people have voted more for Hillaryv than any of

The other candidates. I know Sanders has spoken often of oligarchy, surely he does not think a minority of the people should be running the country, it would maybe them the oligarchy.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #31)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:57 PM

33. Keep on parroting that propaganda.

 

You fail to understand that no-one gives a hoot about popular votes when primaries are concerned.

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Response to fighting-irish (Reply #33)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:59 PM

34. Okay, then she has the most delegates at this time, more than any other candidate.

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:47 PM

5. K&R 1,000x for "We, the People" finally achieving REAL CHANGE!

That IS happening. It's happening even if we don't win the Democratic nomination. The American people are absolutely awakening to how we have been screwed over by both parties. The on-going screw by the Democratic Party "Turd Way" strangulation of the grass roots is as plain as it can be. And the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld Republican legacy is haunting the other party behind the "clown show."

Interesting scenario for a 4-candidate race in the fall. Clinton & Cruz of the traditional parties, Trump & Sanders representing the disaffected of both parties and the independents.

I frankly think Trump is running to put Clinton in the White House. So I don't think he'll continue if the R nomination goes to Cruz (or someone else). I don't think Trump wants to be president. I think his candidacy is orchestrated to elect the Goldman Sachs candidate. Also, I don't think Sanders will continue his campaign unless a 4-candidate race develops (Trump stays in), and I'm not sure what Sanders would do even in that case. He has gone to considerable lengths NOT to harm the Democratic Party. I'm sure Sanders would thrash the other three in the GE in a 4-candidate race. But I think such a scenario is not very likely. However, who knows? Interesting year!

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 02:23 PM

8. A four way race wouldn't help us at all.

Likely, no candidate would get a majority of electoral votes.

That means the House of Representatives would decide the president. Guess who that would be in this scenario? Hint: The worst possible guy.

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 02:25 PM

9. kick

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:48 PM

15. Let's hope so

Bernie may be our last chance at taking the country back for the Corporate Elite

None of the other candidates will ever even try.

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:49 PM

20. Kick

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 06:33 PM

23. Kick! Bernie Ay The Apollo In Harlem!

!!!!

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 06:58 PM

25. Dave Lindorff. LOL...

He's a nutbar CTer who thinks that the CIA was behind the Boston Marathon bombing.

He's a loon.

Sid

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 07:04 PM

26. This is a silly thread. This is the exact opposite way to start a revolution.

 

You must first start at the grass roots by supporting like minded candidates who win elections at the state and federal legislative levels. Then, and only then, can you coalesce around a single individual to lead your political coalition. You don't start with a 75 year old man and hope to build political coalition later. Because of that, Sanders' extreme proposals will be dead on arrival in the state and federal legislatures. Even the Tea Party knew that much.

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #26)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:46 PM

28. Hey Trust... Being Naive Never Accomplished Anything! As A former 2 time Democratic Nominee

for a U.S. House seat... Let me tell you... Bernie IS TELLING YOU EXACTLY LIKE IT IS! NEARLY EVERYBODY OF BOTH... READ THAT... BOTH PARTIES IS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR AND THEY HAVE BEEN FOR DECADES ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. BERNIE AND HIS TEAM IS BEING GENTEEL TO SUBMIT THAT THE RIGGING HAS ONLY BEGUN WITH CITIZENS'S UNITED... I GOT "THE OFFER" FROM THE PHARMACEUTICAL LOBBYISTS... AND I TURNED IT DOWN! MOST DO NOT AND THAT INCLUDES HILLARY! SO.. WHATEVER HAPPENS BERNIE IS OUR LAST AND ONLY HOPE FOR REAL CHANGE IN YOUR LIFETIME.

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Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #28)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:57 PM

32. Maybe he could rejoin the Liberty Union party again.

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Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #28)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:55 AM

36. You, of all people, should understand the importance of building a political coalition.

 

Sanders doesn't have one. Sanders' ego risks Citizens United for a generation. He's a very selfish person IMO.

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 07:39 PM

27. Dave Lindorff is great!

The guy's work has been honored by Project CENSORED among others. Those who smear his good name are most undemocratic.

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