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Anybody notice that the team that once had a 50 point lead now refers to a tie as a "win"? (Original Post) Scuba Apr 2016 OP
K&R! Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #1
I don't recall Sanders ever having a 50-point lead, but, yeah, it's what they do. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #2
are you proud of the fact that Bernie won 56-43 but ended up with less delegates? Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #12
As I was saying... Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #16
So When Bernie WINS Outright Or Ties In New York... What Is Hillary Going To Call That? CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #22
No clue. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #25
Not even a tie Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #3
7-7 is a tie . . . but you knew that DrDan Apr 2016 #6
are you proud of the fact that Bernie won 56-43 but ended up with less delegates, Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #13
it is the system - no, not proud, but that is the system he signed on to when he DrDan Apr 2016 #14
"They were not bent to support either candidate." nashville_brook Apr 2016 #18
when were the rules put in place? DrDan Apr 2016 #19
Rules Bent? Yet To Be Determined! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #21
Similarly, Illinois would have to be a tie rather than a Clinton win. thesquanderer Apr 2016 #20
rules are state specific DrDan Apr 2016 #24
Not the point. If you're going to say that a state is "tied" because they got the same # of delegates thesquanderer Apr 2016 #26
I have no problem with that - they tied in terms of delegates DrDan Apr 2016 #27
Getting close madokie Apr 2016 #9
Of course RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #4
Sanders was ahead by 50? nt Trenzalore Apr 2016 #5
yep. - makes losing easier to take I guess. Merryland Apr 2016 #7
Makes mathematical sense if you're getting the same or nearly the same number of delegates. brush Apr 2016 #8
I remember when the team that's losing referred to a win as a "virtual tie". brooklynite Apr 2016 #10
Oo - Oo - Oo Mr Kotter! I did. I did. I noticed! kristopher Apr 2016 #11
. Dragonfli Apr 2016 #15
The goalposts rest on a well lubricated set of wheels. / FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #17
I love that delegates went 7-7, despite the vote totals... SidDithers Apr 2016 #23
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
2. I don't recall Sanders ever having a 50-point lead, but, yeah, it's what they do.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:04 AM
Apr 2016

And they scream "cheaters" every time they underperform.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
12. are you proud of the fact that Bernie won 56-43 but ended up with less delegates?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:25 AM
Apr 2016

How is that democratic?

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
22. So When Bernie WINS Outright Or Ties In New York... What Is Hillary Going To Call That?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:15 PM
Apr 2016

As Hillary stands resolute with The BIG BANKS! #ShesWithWallStreet



If Hillary cared about the General Election, she would SUSPEND HER CAMPAIGN!
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
25. No clue.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:35 PM
Apr 2016

What would you like her to call it?

One thing we know with great certainty, if HRC wins NY, the Sanders campaign will start screaming about cheating. It happens every time.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
3. Not even a tie
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:05 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie won Wyoming by 56-44%-- and that's including Team Weathervane's ballot stuffing in Cheyenne.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
13. are you proud of the fact that Bernie won 56-43 but ended up with less delegates,
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:26 AM
Apr 2016

when you count super-delegates?

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
14. it is the system - no, not proud, but that is the system he signed on to when he
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:30 AM
Apr 2016

submitted his campaign paperwork.

He wanted to run as a Democrat - he and his supporters should accept the rules instead of continually complaining.

They were the rules PRIOR to either of their campaign stated. They were not bent to support either candidate.

thesquanderer

(11,953 posts)
20. Similarly, Illinois would have to be a tie rather than a Clinton win.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:07 PM
Apr 2016

According to Green Papers, they each got 78 delegates, even though Hillary was declared the winner by 1.8 points in the popular vote.

thesquanderer

(11,953 posts)
26. Not the point. If you're going to say that a state is "tied" because they got the same # of delegates
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:49 PM
Apr 2016

then it applies to both Wyoming and Illinois.

In each case, one candidate won the state in popular vote, but both candidates tied in delegates.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
9. Getting close
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:10 AM
Apr 2016

to me writing in a name on my GE ballot.
This whole system of awarding delegates is fucked if I've ever seen fucked in my life

brush

(53,467 posts)
8. Makes mathematical sense if you're getting the same or nearly the same number of delegates.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:09 AM
Apr 2016

The delegate lead is not being cut.

It's really the number delegates gained not the "wins".

If someone is ahead by 200 delegates and both get 7 delegates in a small state, the one in the lead is still 200 delegates ahead and closer to the finish line.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
15. .
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:46 AM
Apr 2016


I see in one race a twelve pint margin of victory being called a win, due to some what musr be bizzare methods of calculating state delegates, the 12 point victory ends in a delegate tie, but it's a decisive win and a delegate tie, both those statements are true, but are being conflated as meaning the same thing.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
23. I love that delegates went 7-7, despite the vote totals...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:19 PM
Apr 2016

Reinforces the fact that the Weaver and Devine don't know how to run a campaign.

Sid

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