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insta8er

(960 posts)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:33 PM Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton acknowledges 1994 crime bill led to mass incarceration of minorities,

tells Daily News editorial board the bill also did good things.

Hillary Clinton on Saturday conceded her husband’s 1994 crime bill had the unintended consequence of mass incarceration.

Speaking before the Daily News editorial board, Clinton said the bill did a lot of good things like adding more cops to the streets and creating a ban on assault weapons.


But she said it also led states to enact policies that resulted in more people, especially people of color, being imprisoned for nonviolent crimes.

“That was not as apparent at the time, but part of being a responsible decision maker is to keep track of what’s happening,” she said. “And now I think it’s clear there were some consequences that we do have to address.”

[link:http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/hillary-clinton-1994-crime-bill-led-mass-incarceration-article-1.2594729|

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Hillary Clinton acknowledges 1994 crime bill led to mass incarceration of minorities, (Original Post) insta8er Apr 2016 OP
She needs to check with Bill so they can get their stories straight. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #1
hahahahahahah Zira Apr 2016 #9
She cut Bill's legs right out from under him Fumesucker Apr 2016 #18
Now Uponthegears Apr 2016 #2
You mean now, after the southern block is out of the way? Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #3
She wated until NOW to understand what the fuck they did? More like just is pissy because it djean111 Apr 2016 #4
do i have to post the video of bernie saying exactly that would happen? oh, ok Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #5
Yeah, at least SOMEONE knew what the consequences would be... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #11
good idea. might even catch on! Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #12
Only took her 22 years to "track what's happening" EndElectoral Apr 2016 #6
"Triangles" don't move as fast as circles beedle Apr 2016 #29
One of these days we will get to discussing policing that benefits everybody... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #7
One of these days... JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #34
Bernie Sanders voted for it also Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #8
Source? I watched the speech where he addresses congress against it. Zira Apr 2016 #10
He gave several addresses about the consequences of this bill... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #13
I actually found it and the person is correct. Zira Apr 2016 #14
That bill presented a serious rock and a hard place for anyone put in a position to vote on it... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #17
Agreed. Zira Apr 2016 #19
Apologies, I found it. Zira Apr 2016 #15
He already did explain, what he opposed and what he supported: beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #20
So does she want the government to stop locking up millions of people for drug use, or not? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #16
One triangulation at a time please beedle Apr 2016 #31
Yes. But that was not its intent. If whites had been stalked, arrested, prosecuted at the Jitter65 Apr 2016 #21
and it only took till the 2016 presidential elections beedle Apr 2016 #35
Hillary: we brought them to heel. morningfog Apr 2016 #22
Amazing how Sanders supporters go googling away to spin his vote. Meanwhile... timlot Apr 2016 #23
She's the one who promoted it using racist dog whistles. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #24
"We came, we saw, they heeled." morningfog Apr 2016 #25
Yup. Heard that spun a dozen different ways and they're not done yet. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #27
Amazing how my cat is a more complex thinker than some people here (hint). nt Bonobo Apr 2016 #30
That's true that Hillary can't vote for it at the time, however... desmiller Apr 2016 #36
Nobody needs to google Aerows Apr 2016 #41
Bernie accepts your apology! nt beedle Apr 2016 #26
Unintended Consequence Politicalboi Apr 2016 #28
Bill just said how great it was that it singled out crack dealers jfern Apr 2016 #32
White crack dealers mostly right? beedle Apr 2016 #37
Fucking up is the new black. n/t Aerows Apr 2016 #33
indeed. desmiller Apr 2016 #38
he apologizes AND wants to take credit for what he's apologizing for MisterP Apr 2016 #39
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #40
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. She wated until NOW to understand what the fuck they did? More like just is pissy because it
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:45 PM
Apr 2016

was brought up at all.

but part of being a responsible decision maker is to keep track of what’s happening,” she said. “And now I think it’s clear there were some consequences that we do have to address.”


What a pair.
 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
29. "Triangles" don't move as fast as circles
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:31 PM
Apr 2016

But they sure are more than capable of mowing down lots of innocent people who get in the way.

Triangulation: throwing the weak under the bus for political gain.

How do you like me now my AA firewall - Hillary 2016

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. One of these days we will get to discussing policing that benefits everybody...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:48 PM
Apr 2016

One of these days we will get to discussing policing that benefits and protects everybody and discriminates against no one. What a wonderful world this will be. It is not beyond our grasp.



TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
13. He gave several addresses about the consequences of this bill...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:41 PM
Apr 2016

...but because it was an omnibus bill that contained other things like the Violence Against Women Act and various weapon bans and bans on certain types of particularly dangerous ammunition he felt he had to vote for it.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
14. I actually found it and the person is correct.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:42 PM
Apr 2016

here:

Both Sanders and Hillary Clinton, who was then serving as first lady, supported the crime bill at the time. Stephanopoulos, a former official in the Clinton White House, asked Sanders if he had any “second thoughts” about doing so.

“Well, that bill was one of these bills that had good things in it and it had bad things in it,” Sanders replied. “If I had voted against that bill, you would be asking me, ‘Bernie, why did you vote against the ban on assault weapons?’”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-super-predators-sanders_us_570a67a2e4b0836057a17d1e

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
17. That bill presented a serious rock and a hard place for anyone put in a position to vote on it...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:44 PM
Apr 2016

...and while it did have negative consequences, I don't know what I would have done in Sanders shoes and don't envy that position.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
31. One triangulation at a time please
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:36 PM
Apr 2016

Will it do her campaign any good in the immediate 2 weeks to call for the government to stop locking up people? She's not going to waste a good 'triangulation' issue of it's not going to bring about immediate positive results ... for her.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
21. Yes. But that was not its intent. If whites had been stalked, arrested, prosecuted at the
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:51 PM
Apr 2016

rates they were using illegal drugs and committing robberies and murders there would have been a move to rescind many of the portions of that bill sooner. But one must still remember the many, many decent black working men and women and their elderly who were living in neighborhoods being terrorized by gangs, and yes some super predators. Clinton had pressure from both the right and the left to help curb crime and gun violence.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
35. and it only took till the 2016 presidential elections
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:41 PM
Apr 2016

and pressure by someone who was against the lock ups since the bill was first introduced, to 'evolve' (like a light switch evolves from "on" to "off&quot to this new position?

So next big spike in crime, will she 'evolve' back to zealous imprisonment based almost entirely on race? No? How can we trust that since she 'evolves' so quickly back and forth in a (political) instance? If only we had someone we could trust not to flip-flop based on what's politicly convenient.

 

timlot

(456 posts)
23. Amazing how Sanders supporters go googling away to spin his vote. Meanwhile...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:55 PM
Apr 2016

a First Lady has no vote. No vote for NAFTA, Crime Bill, or even her own health care proposal. She couldn't vote for it.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
24. She's the one who promoted it using racist dog whistles.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:09 PM
Apr 2016

Like saying those kids were "super predators" who must be "brought to heel":



How about you find one single instance of Bernie pushing that racist bullshit and get back to me?

desmiller

(747 posts)
36. That's true that Hillary can't vote for it at the time, however...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:45 PM
Apr 2016

each person, including Clinton, does not have to be in a position to vote to support it. n/t

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
41. Nobody needs to google
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:59 AM
Apr 2016

if they have a memory.

Which many of us had prior to the internet.

It has expanded post internet, but stupidity isn't a strange curse that people who have always followed such matters are afflicted with.

It only afflicts dumb people, or people who are paid to be dumb.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
28. Unintended Consequence
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:29 PM
Apr 2016

Oh please. The private prison industry feeds the Clinton's. Such liars they are when exposed. Mission Accomplished. And us Dem's have to read this shit day in and day out. Lies, lies, lies. Whenever Hillary Coattails opens her mouth, she's lying.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
37. White crack dealers mostly right?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:49 PM
Apr 2016

See ... look at the white crack dealers (and one rapist) those nice black navel officers are escorting off to prison.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
39. he apologizes AND wants to take credit for what he's apologizing for
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:59 PM
Apr 2016

they sit on so many fences that cattle around the country refuse to charge them because they're habituated

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