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Tue Apr 12, 2016, 07:53 AM

If I had seen the same level of concern about "low information voters"....."Confederate States".....

"Stockholm Syndrome" , etc, from some as I've seen about DeBlasio's joke....I wouldn't doubt the sincerity of the outrage quite so much.

We see it.

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Reply If I had seen the same level of concern about "low information voters"....."Confederate States"..... (Original post)
LexVegas Apr 2016 OP
Jitter65 Apr 2016 #1
reddread Apr 2016 #2
Post removed Apr 2016 #3
Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #6
LexVegas Apr 2016 #7
NCTraveler Apr 2016 #22
JTFrog Apr 2016 #11
rbrnmw Apr 2016 #13
CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #20
CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #34
CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #36
Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #16
Agschmid Apr 2016 #23
ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #4
JudyM Apr 2016 #8
ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #19
CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #21
JudyM Apr 2016 #25
nc4bo Apr 2016 #5
geek tragedy Apr 2016 #9
JTFrog Apr 2016 #10
Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #17
Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #18
NCTraveler Apr 2016 #24
rbrnmw Apr 2016 #12
jcgoldie Apr 2016 #14
Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #15
KingFlorez Apr 2016 #26
pinebox Apr 2016 #27
Tarc Apr 2016 #28
LexVegas Apr 2016 #30
pinebox Apr 2016 #32
pinebox Apr 2016 #33
Tarc Apr 2016 #35
pinebox Apr 2016 #47
Tarc Apr 2016 #48
nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #37
Tarc Apr 2016 #38
nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #39
Tarc Apr 2016 #41
nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #42
Tarc Apr 2016 #43
nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #44
Tarc Apr 2016 #45
nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #46
Armstead Apr 2016 #29
Prism Apr 2016 #31
nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #40

Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:14 AM

1. And we understand it. And we do vote. nt

 

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:15 AM

2. can you tell?

 

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Response to Post removed (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:00 AM

6. You noticed that too?

Go figure...

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Response to Post removed (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:06 AM

7. Yep. No concern there. nt

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:37 AM

22. Leaving my +1 for the hidden post here. Your point is sound LexVegas. nt.

 

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Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:44 AM

13. I got a hide for saying that people stopped being concerned

when it wasn't about Hillary in the AA group. It was the night of the SC primary when they said black folks there had a master/slave mentality. I don't answer their concern posts because they are transparent.

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Response to rbrnmw (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:28 AM

20. Broken jury system!

 

Everyone who voted to hide DanTex's post should be barred from serving. Ridiculous bias on display there.

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Response to CalvinballPro (Reply #20)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 02:57 PM

34. Their alert swarms have been active. Dissent will not be tolerated!

 

Bernie must not be criticized, or questioned.

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Response to CorkySt.Clair (Reply #34)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:04 PM

36. In nomine Bernardus

 

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Response to Post removed (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:09 AM

16. Of course that OP also targeted LGBT people and that is somehow forgotten in recounting of it....

 

Also forgotten are the many Bernie supporters who strongly objected to that bullshit, myself included. Erasing LGBT voices from that history is a nasty thing to do. We don't fit your narrative so you refuse to defend us from such attacks and also refuse to acknowledge our own confrontations of that poster. It is simply not ethical to do that. What it is is exploitative and bigoted.

I put myself all the way out there in calling that shit out. Did you? Of course not.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #16)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:39 AM

23. +1

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:31 AM

4. To be blunt...

I doubt the outrage of 99.9% of supporters of either candidate on this page anymore. We (way to go us!!!) have reduced people down to the color of their skin, their gender, their religion, etc...

...

...but, we don't really give a shit about them as long as our guy wins.

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Response to ScreamingMeemie (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:10 AM

8. You don't speak for 99.9% of DUers, sorry. Nor, IMO, are you truly seeing through their/our hearts.

If that is what you see, that is pure projection.

Maybe some of us don't get all the intricacies of racial issues but we want equal treatment, opportunity and social justice. This on the part of Sanders supporters... I can't speak for Hillary supporters' understanding and motivations.

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Response to JudyM (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:21 AM

19. As one who voted for Bernie, I stand by my

words. Thank you.

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Response to JudyM (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:31 AM

21. Look what you did, though. "Bernie supporters would never, but I don't know..."

 

"...about those Clinton supporters." You draped yourself in morality and then took a cheap shot at the opposition.

Stop pretending you're better than anyone while you go on about "equal treatment." If you want it so badly, try living it first. Meet your own standard, maybe.

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Response to CalvinballPro (Reply #21)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:57 AM

25. That's completely your interpretation. I honestly did not mean it as a slam. I honestly do not

completely understand progressives who support Hillary and so can't say how they feel.

Peace.

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:40 AM

5. You know what could change low info voters into well informed voters?

Nationwide access to reasonably priced high speed Internet services.

Did you realize there are huge swaths of countryside that lacks access to the above?

Information is power. Too bad we're too busy catering to the MIC and Corporate Grifters, Inc. to wire this country up.





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Response to nc4bo (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:11 AM

9. Whoosh nt

 

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:18 AM

10. Bingo. A lot of people rec'd and supported that banned asshole's racist rants.

 

We do indeed see it.

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Response to JTFrog (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:17 AM

17. And a lot of others made strenuous and exactling objections to that poster's vile works.

 

I sure as fuck did. So did other Bernie supporters. You seem, PFLAG to have forgotten that that OP targeted LGBT as well as African Americans. You also seem to have forgotten that several of us did the bulk of the work countering that poster. For months I objected to his racism and homophobia and also, by the way, general cross party love for Reagan and other Republicans. He had made OP's complaining that Reagan voters were seen as homophobic.

Apparently, If One Voted For Reagan, They Were Anti-Gay...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026231263

Many of you failed to stand up to him. Repeatedly. For months.

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Response to JTFrog (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:19 AM

18. The OP did not object to WillyT's posts against LGBT.

 

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #18)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:40 AM

24. Many of us did. Repeatedly.

 

Go check out my recent hidden post about the Pope. Look at why the alerter determined it should be hidden.

Some people said does not an argument make. There simply has to be more.

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:40 AM

12. Fascinating

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:47 AM

14. Nice!

CP Time-gate... brought to you by the hordes of DU Bernie voters who can't figure out why black people won't vote for their guy so they must have stockholm syndrome.

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:48 AM

15. So, just to be clear, any outrage you feel towards racism is partisan?

 

That is a really strange way to approach stuff like this.

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:08 PM

26. I concur

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:14 PM

27. What Hillary did was wrong. Period.

 

In fact, whoever does this is wrong, period. I don't give a crap who you are.

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Response to pinebox (Reply #27)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:20 PM

28. The thing is, other than the Sanders camp, which is mostly white

no one seems to be all that jacked up about a lame "CP Time" joke. The A-A community certainly isn't.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #28)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:22 PM

30. Exactly. Insincere outrage. nt

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Response to pinebox (Reply #33)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 02:58 PM

35. Yes, the whiterage (white + outrage. pretty cool, eh?) is readily apparent

The A-As I've heard from so far are more eye-rolling over the painful lameness of the joke than actually upset about it.

Perhaps if Sanders and his followers got involved in something that is of actual interest to many African-Americans, that would be the more productive route to take.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #35)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:30 PM

47. Seriously? Whiterage? Really? Cute racism.

 

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Response to pinebox (Reply #47)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:23 PM

48. If the glove fits...

Camp Sanders is using this like a political football, while many black people don't seem to give two shits about it.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #28)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:11 PM

37. Tone deaf

 

But I can't help to laugh at this point

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #37)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:17 PM

38. I'm happy for you, but much of the commentary thus far places this in the "gaffe" category

than anything else. I fully realize it would be in Sanders' best interests to make this into a Macaca moment to deliver to him New York at the 11th hour, but it just ain't happening.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #38)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:18 PM

39. Yup continues to be tone deaf

 

Hysterical

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #39)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:23 PM

41. I find it amusing that you continue to be whiteraged on behalf of A-As over this issue

When they by and large are not.

Why is that?

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Response to Tarc (Reply #41)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:25 PM

42. Now we go down personal attack alley

 

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #42)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:37 PM

43. I'll keep asking the question for as long as you decide to dodge it

This is why Sanders does so poorly with persons of color; treating them like a political commodity.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #43)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:39 PM

44. I cover racial issues

 

I post those stories here, which are ignored by both sides so kind of amusing.

By the way, keep treating PoC as Lego blocks. I find that adorable.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #44)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:40 PM

45. Let me know when your guy actually comes up with a stance that addresses their issues

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Response to Tarc (Reply #45)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:42 PM

46. Since he is not my guy

 

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:20 PM

29. I think a lot of it is a reaction to the hypocrisy from the Clinton camp and MSM

 

Bernie was branded as a racist -- or at least as someone who "has a problem with" -- AA's from before he evemn started campaigning.

Then when he got testy and briefly snapped at some BLM protesters (in a non racial way) it was jumped on and amplified. "See Bernie doesn't like Black people, and his supporters are just privileged white progressives."

Jad Clinton and her supporters not tried to paint Sanders in that way....this stupid little racially insensitive joke would not be jumped on...(at least not any more than it should be criticized for its insensitivity).

BTW -- the term :"low information voters" is a term that is not racial in context. It has often been used on DU and elsewhere to characterize people who vote Republican.

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Response to LexVegas (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:28 PM

31. You're part of why the racial well is poisoned on DU

 

Because people play partisan games with social justice issues.

Either something is right or something is wrong.

But once you go down, "Well, I don't care, because some other guy said . . ." then you erode your credibility and say to everyone reading, "These issues matter. Kind of. But not too much, because I'm willing to make them an inconsequential plaything."

I called out Stockholm Syndrome. I even called out others when the Seattle BLM protesters were getting a shellacking.

Because there is right and there is wrong. Issues are important only if you treat them as important.

You are not treating racism as important here. You're treating it like a childish game where points are being kept.

If the goal is to sow racial division and ensure the Democratic party won't tangibly address social injustice for a few election cycles, people on both sides, you included, are doing a bang up job.

Keep on truckin with all that.

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Response to Prism (Reply #31)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:20 PM

40. It is gotten to the point

 

Since we cover race issues, that I consider that crowd tone deaf on a day I feel generous

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