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Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:06 PM

Hillary caught flat out lying. An Oscar worthy performance.

Ahh the History, the Internet and digital video. It does make my heart sing sometimes.

the video:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x109944

From politifact:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/mar/25/hillary-clinton/video-shows-tarmac-welcome-no-snipers/

all right gang, spin it and give it yer best shot.

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Reply Hillary caught flat out lying. An Oscar worthy performance. (Original post)
Phlem Apr 2016 OP
Jester Messiah Apr 2016 #1
bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #4
nolabels Apr 2016 #22
Bonobo Apr 2016 #2
bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #7
Politicalboi Apr 2016 #3
Phlem Apr 2016 #8
Merryland Apr 2016 #27
Duval Apr 2016 #38
yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #29
itsrobert Apr 2016 #5
Trenzalore Apr 2016 #6
Phlem Apr 2016 #9
Fawke Em Apr 2016 #10
Phlem Apr 2016 #12
Politicalboi Apr 2016 #13
LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #18
2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #19
JTFrog Apr 2016 #25
Phlem Apr 2016 #36
JTFrog Apr 2016 #37
Phlem Apr 2016 #40
pinebox Apr 2016 #39
IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #11
DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #15
bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #20
LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #26
All in it together Apr 2016 #30
ViseGrip Apr 2016 #14
Phlem Apr 2016 #16
AzDar Apr 2016 #17
amborin Apr 2016 #21
DanTex Apr 2016 #23
Phlem Apr 2016 #24
Phlem Apr 2016 #32
Phlem Apr 2016 #28
Faux pas Apr 2016 #31
Shrike47 Apr 2016 #33
VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #34
Phlem Apr 2016 #35

Response to Phlem (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:09 PM

1. That's like catching a fish flat out swimming

 

I mean, at this point, it's like "yeah, and...?" It's what she does. People who support her actually like this about her, that she's such a consummate "player of the game." It's not an issue. It's what she does.

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Response to Jester Messiah (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:09 PM

4. It amazes me that they think it okay.

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Response to bkkyosemite (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:48 AM

22. It's not they think it's okay, but more that is a way to conduct one's business

Understanding what you are working with is half the battle in getting whatever you are doing done.

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Response to Phlem (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:09 PM

2. Lying about being a victim of warfare is particularly disgusting.

She has encouraged the deaths of many, many, many people through her votes and speeches.

There are real people, innocent people, babies that are actually the victims of wars.

It is disgusting to make light of that by playing the false victim.

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:11 PM

7. This liar wants to lead our Country and people are fine with it...just amazed as I said before!

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Response to Phlem (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:09 PM

3. Again? LOL!

 

Gotta have this



Liar liar pants on fire.

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:14 PM

8. Dude, your killing me!



you made me cry.........with tears of joy!

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:10 AM

27. Hillary and Brian Williams should compare notes on starring in dramatic war stories.

Like 2 aging lying generals.

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Response to Merryland (Reply #27)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:14 PM

38. Brian made one mistake.

 

I have missed him. I don't see myself ever missing Hillary.

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:23 AM

29. too good

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Response to Phlem (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:09 PM

5. Keep it up

Only a few more weeks and your fun will be over.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:11 PM

6. +1

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:15 PM

9. Oh I think I'm going to need more effort than that.

Convince me otherwise.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:26 PM

10. Why?

Even if she becomes the nominee, do you think we're magically going to stop discussing her flaws? Maybe not on this board as its a violation of TOS, but we're going to continue to point out how really bad she is all over social media.

No matter what you think, there is a sizeable chunk of progressive voters who will NEVER vote for her. If we'd wanted a Republican, we'd have voted for one. We'll be going Green or writing in our choice.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:33 PM

12. Exactly.

I'm way past the election.

I'll follow the rules.

I will still post where I can.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:37 PM

13. I'm with you

 

I will support Jill Stein over Hillary. And visiting other sites to warn others about Hillary. And of course pointing out her never ending LIES! It's going to be fun to watch tears of defeat again. YUM!!!!

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:18 AM

18. The secret with be to keep Bern-Net working to start to focus on state elections and

not let it fall apart. If that can be done then the nation can be changed.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:29 AM

19. Impeachment will start day one

 

She would go down in history as the worst president ever, perhaps even beating out Bush. Then electing a woman president after that will be nearly impossible. Then she will take her place as the second half of the only husband and wife team to be impeached.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:07 AM

25. Because we don't need that fucking noise here when we are trying to win an election.

 

We'll be making phone calls, registering voters, getting out the vote and using DU as a place to support the Democratic nominee for president.

As Skinner said after Obama became the presumptive nominee:

A thought about context and the constructiveness of criticism.
Posted by Skinner in General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009)
Wed Jul 02nd 2008, 08:59 AM

Since the FISA and faith-based stories have been in the news, there has been a lot of discussion about whether (and how) members should be permitted to criticize Barack Obama, our presumptive presidential nominee. I'm not going to get into the gritty details of enforcement, or what is-or-isn't permitted, because that is not the purpose of this post. The purpose of this post is merely to make an observation about criticism, and the context in which it is offered.

If someone offers criticism of Barack Obama, I find that the criticism is easier to accept if the speaker has already sufficiently demonstrated their support for Senator Obama's candidacy.

Put another way: If you want to be taken seriously, it helps to prove your bona-fides.

To be clear: I'm not speaking as a DU Administrator here. My purpose is merely to offer some helpful insight to those of you who don't seem to understand why you are not showered with rose petals when you offer your special brand of constructive criticism here on DU. Allow me to explain.

If you have spent the last six-to-twelve months trashing Senator Obama here on DU, and since the primaries ended you have not given any credible indication that you are now a supporter of his campaign, then if you post a thread about how you are incredibly disappointed in him because {insert reason here}, people are likely to wonder about your motivations and conclude that you are still trying to derail his campaign.

I'm not saying they're right. I'm not saying it's fair. What I am saying is that it is virtually inevitable.

So, if you want to be taken seriously -- if you want your constructive criticism to be accepted as constructive -- I humbly suggest that you put some effort into demonstrating that you actually want our guy to win this thing.


Of course at that time there were moderators and actual rules about constructive criticism. I hear they are making some changes around here to deal with the noisemakers after we have a nominee regardless of which candidate wins. Things have progressed far beyond "heated politics" here.

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Response to JTFrog (Reply #25)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:12 PM

36. Mkay.

Sorry but I won't be here if Hillary is the presumptive nominee. Oh I'll follow the rules but I'm voting for who I want as president. I'll take it somewhere else.

I've been here since before her 1st try, she is worse than before. But go ahead and work for someone who's a pathological liar. I won't make any so called noise around here, but I will continue to spread the truth.

Happy?

Oh, and Hell No I don't want a Republican to win but that's not my fucking fault is it. I've always voted D, never voted R, will never ever vote R. But I have suffered greatly under Clinton and Obama, 2 thirdway politicians, yet you're asking me to do it again? Seriously? Yea that's right it's not all fucking Rainbows and Unicorns out here in real world.

Politicians are supposed to work for us, not themselves. They are not fucking rock stars or celebrities but the nations and the citizens of that nation's employees and I'm going to hire the best candidate for the job, not vote for the lesser of 2 evils ever again because that is not a choice, it's blackmail.

We are not going to align until we all feel the same equal pain, unfortunately we are not there yet. We desperately needed that when Obama the populist was running, then turned complete Thirdway after becoming President. Not playing that game anymore.

If politicians cannot entice people to vote for them that is their fault and the Party's fault, not the people's.

Remember, voting is each individual's choice?

Simple logic.

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Response to Phlem (Reply #36)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:14 PM

37. No one is telling you who to vote for.

 

DU rules apply to DU only.

Go do what you gotta do.



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Response to JTFrog (Reply #37)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:19 PM

40. "Because we don't need that fucking noise here when we are trying to win an election."

"We'll be making phone calls, registering voters, getting out the vote and using DU as a place to support the Democratic nominee for president."

Exactly, like before, when every time a thirdway corporate friendly candidate is in place, we work against our best interest.

So we're in agreement.

Like I said before, never voted Republican, never will.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:18 PM

39. Agreed 100%

 

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:31 PM

11. From your keyboard to the Heavens above ---

 

Please make her GO AWAY in a few more weeks!

Amen.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:43 PM

15. I think not. The fun will move somewhere else if Sanders doesn't get the nod.

 

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:33 AM

20. If telling the truth about lying yes we will keep it up.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:09 AM

26. So tell us, why are you OK with the constant lies of your preferred candidate?

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:23 AM

30. Yup, if Hillary is the nominee no more fun for anyone but the .01%

I guess unless we keep pushing on Hillary to go left and not go to war, not encourage fracking, but save our environment and reduce climate change. Not fun, much more work than electing Bernie in the first place.

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Response to Phlem (Original post)

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:40 PM

14. Best shot? She's a habitual liar.

 

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Response to ViseGrip (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:10 AM

16. So true.

still waiting for someone to refute it.

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Response to Phlem (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:59 AM

17. "She Was Practiced At The Art Of Deception..." --Rolling Stones...

 

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Response to Phlem (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:37 AM

21. repeatedly

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Response to DanTex (Reply #23)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:01 AM

24. It's not a fucking smear if it's the Truth chief.

Nice try but you lose.

It's extremely dangerous to ignore the facts about a candidate's past thinking they'll be different once they're elected.

She's tried it before and she's using the same BS that she did last time, this time.

Look past the female and SEE THE POLITICIAN!

Jeeebus!

Go on and ignore the facts of her history, the rest of us won't.



PS. Don't be a hypocrite, you know damn well Hillary supporters do a fantastic job of smearing.

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Response to DanTex (Reply #23)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:33 AM

32. Your post has no substance again. Try refuting it.

That's all I ask.

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Response to Phlem (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:13 AM

28. Hillary supporters are unable to look past the female and SEE THE POLITICIAN!

They think Sanders supporters are not pro female and don't realize we are evaluating the politician which goes hand in hand with the person.

The Person running for President will be evaluated no matter what. If the person has any skeletons in their closet, they will be found.

All part of running for POTUS. See History.

FFS.

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Response to Phlem (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:24 AM

31. I wouldn't have

a pathological liar for a friend. Why would all the clintonians want one as our country's leader???? Do not compute.

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Response to Faux pas (Reply #31)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:54 AM

33. If we have to choose between two pathological liars, wouldn't you pick the Democrat?

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Response to Shrike47 (Reply #33)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:59 AM

34. Not when there's three people running.

Thankfully, my home of record is in a state deep enough red, that if I cut my hand open compared to it, it'd look like I was bleeding white; so my vote really doesn't matter.

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Response to VulgarPoet (Reply #34)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:06 PM

35. "Not when there's three people running"

Exactly.

2 from the establishment and 1 trying to change the establishment.

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