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Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:39 AM

Do you suppose attendees to HRC's GS speeches were frisked for recording devices?

My first reaction on being told I can't do something "just because" is almost always to start thinking of ways to do that thing, I might not do it but I'll be thinking of ways to accomplish what I've been arbitrarily told not to do. I guess you could call me an anti-authoritarian. I'm a little unusual but far from unique, someone in the fairly smart crowd listening to Hillary was thinking of ways to record her speech simply because they they were told not to, it's only human.

Another issue is Goldman Sachs big wheels themselves, these are the type of men, and they are mostly men, who wear a belt and suspenders for redundancy. Sure they have purchased Hillary Clinton they think to themselves but will she _stay_ bought? A surreptitious recording of her telling them things she doesn't want made public is just good business, a belt in your pants loops when you are already wearing suspenders.

It's all but certain there is a recording or multiple recordings of Hillary's GS speeches, the bigger question is who has one or more such recordings now? Trump is the most likely I think, he's a blowhard sure but he's a very media savvy blowhard who has already torpedoed one campaign with inside information.

Those speeches are most likely radioactive and a recording or even better a video could be worth fairly big money or maybe really big money if the content is explosive enough. Of course the recording will be worth far more on the market after the nominations and during the general than it is now during the primaries where the only real customer is Bernie Sanders who probably wouldn't go that route anyway.

Think like a member of the 1%, if you had a recording worth potentially millions would you forfeit the money to help someone else you may not even like?

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Reply Do you suppose attendees to HRC's GS speeches were frisked for recording devices? (Original post)
Fumesucker Apr 2016 OP
ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #1
Hoyt Apr 2016 #2
ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #4
Hoyt Apr 2016 #5
ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #6
Hoyt Apr 2016 #7
ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #8
Hoyt Apr 2016 #9
ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #10
Hoyt Apr 2016 #11
ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #12
JudyM Apr 2016 #3
krawhitham Apr 2016 #13
aidbo Apr 2016 #14
fun n serious Apr 2016 #15
Contrary1 Apr 2016 #16

Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:49 AM

1. Like I've stated before. Whatever she did or didn't say in the speeches is irrelevant.

 

She took the money and is on the payroll. She could talk about making ham sandwiches for all I care, she's been bought and paid for. I'm sure she's said some incriminating things that need to be brought to light, but that would only be icing on the cake. But I think we need to focus less on what's in the transcripts and more on the acquisition of influence.

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Response to ThePhilosopher04 (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:53 AM

2. So, if she also got money from organizations representing the poor, environmental groups, unions,

etc., how does she reconcile the different needs and apportion her alleged "favors." She gets donations from all those groups and people.

There is nothing incriminating in the speeches. If there had been, we'd have heard about it from Democrats who went, Clinton detractors who were there, meeting staff, etc. There would be videos. Besides, if she released her transcripts, you guys would say they've been altered, what did she say before and after meeting, you'd take everything out of context, you'd ask if she went off script, etc. It will never end just like Obama's birth certificate.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:42 AM

4. 250k for a speech buys influence. You know it and I know it

 

They could pay her to 250k to water the lawn, it's no different. Employees serve their employer, otherwise the checks stop flowing.

And you know goo and we'll she hasn't received anywhere close go the same dollars from charitable groups representing the poor and the environment. And if she did, why would they pay her? It all goes back to buying influence.

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Response to ThePhilosopher04 (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:03 AM

5. Yeah, what favors do you think American Camping Association, Canada 2020, etc.

asked for. The organizations are trying to attract a crowd. What better way than to invite someone with more political and other experience than just about anyone. She's entertainment with some political and world insight thrown in.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:13 AM

6. Those organizations don't control the world economy

 

Odd and curious allocation of resources by those groups, but irrelevant to what she's receiving from corporations seeking favorable treatment and legislation in Washington. They know they can count on her to run interference. So far, she hasn't disappointed.

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Response to ThePhilosopher04 (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:48 AM

7. Investors seek knowledge of future legislation, world issues, etc.

She's a world leader with experience like no other. Hence speaking fees riveling entertainers, athletes.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:57 AM

8. Yeah right. They pay her to entertain. That's it

 

What else could they possibly want from someone with the ability to shape policy. Nothing to see here.

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Response to ThePhilosopher04 (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 05:57 PM

9. You really don't get it do you. They just want to appear tied in. Having her

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tell a few jokes and stories at a big event is a lot cheaper than running an ad campaign, or something, to impress clients. Christ.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:28 PM

10. I really do get it. She's on their payroll and they

 

expect return on investment. Don't be naive.

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Response to ThePhilosopher04 (Reply #10)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:22 AM

11. Nope, she got paid to attract people to their event and help them look hip.

They got their money's worth and she owes them nothing.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:04 AM

12. You forgot the sarcasm button

 

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Response to ThePhilosopher04 (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:35 AM

3. So irrelevant that she prefers to take this level of heat/slams to her integrity rather than release

them?

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Response to ThePhilosopher04 (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:07 AM

13. 47% killed Mitt, and Hillary's transcript will be leaked at some point.

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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:18 AM

14. Best scene in the bible is Eve taking a bite of that forbidden fruit.

 

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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:45 AM

16. If they were frisked at all,

it would have been to see how much cash they were carrying.

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