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ONLINE POLLS SHOW BERNIE WON DEBATE IN LANDSLIDE! (Original Post) Seeinghope Apr 2016 OP
Since you didn't provide any of the text of this enjoyable piece, I hope you won't mind if I do. hedda_foil Apr 2016 #1
Great read, hedda. Accurate, too. Ah, I see it's Julie Driscoll's. senz Apr 2016 #2
Thanks, senz. I wish I'd written it but it's from the link in the OP. hedda_foil Apr 2016 #4
I caught it and edited. We need more writing like that. senz Apr 2016 #5
this is slightly OT, but while this is well written renate Apr 2016 #9
It's widely appreciated when you quote some of the good stuff. eom Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #10
Oh my gosh Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #16
Yup, that's the money quote. corkhead Apr 2016 #18
And that leaves me scratching my head Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #19
I have met countless Bernie supporters but I have met only one Hillary supporter that I know of. corkhead Apr 2016 #22
I wouldn't mind voting for a woman for President Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #25
naming one policy position - period, is a tough one yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #29
excellent... that sums up a lot, and very well yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #28
Not at all! Your damned if you do and damned if you don't it seems! So thanks for doing it for me! Seeinghope Apr 2016 #33
Online polls?? TMontoya Apr 2016 #3
Unscientific polls Congruente Apr 2016 #6
Again! BainsBane Apr 2016 #7
Only 8 out of the last 9. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #11
Caucuses BainsBane Apr 2016 #12
Yes, caucuses render less votes than primaries. Well done for remembering that. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #13
Where are Bernie's 8 years of taxes? BainsBane Apr 2016 #14
The feeling is quite mutual. eom Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #15
You are disingenuous and ugly to compare the finances and transparency of the Clintons to Sanders. PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #27
bernie won 300% of the votes in the poll in the sanders forum on DU. smashing win nt msongs Apr 2016 #8
Clinton shills in the corporate media spin it for her of course Califonz Apr 2016 #17
At least the people reading Pravda Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #21
Clickety clickety click click click nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #20
Say it aint so. Online polls? itsrobert Apr 2016 #23
Delusions are hard to knock away. riversedge Apr 2016 #30
And he is closing the gap in the polls jimmy_crack_corn Apr 2016 #24
He'll win the online election too!!!! JoePhilly Apr 2016 #26
We always hear talk about him winning, but we actually see him.. dubyadiprecession Apr 2016 #31
"... the media will hand the win to Clinton ..." rock Apr 2016 #32

hedda_foil

(16,373 posts)
1. Since you didn't provide any of the text of this enjoyable piece, I hope you won't mind if I do.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:12 AM
Apr 2016
Clinton started out pretty strong, actually – I mean, yeah, I throw up in my mouth a little writing this, but it’s true. For a minute I was a little nervous. Then (thank you Dana Bash!) came the Wall Street speech transcript question (why won’t you release them if there’s nothing in them that’s, you know, bad?), and Clinton sang the same old tune of “when everybody else does,” got defensive, couldn’t get out of the corner, and from then on she pretty much got pummeled. Bernie Sanders is who he is: He stays on message, he has core issues that he’s passionate and knowledgeable about, he’s the guy on a mission. She’s the party pooper who says the kids can only have a tiny slice of cake and no pop because of all the sugar, the one who has the most amazing gift of dancing the sidestep, but who, tonight, was called out pretty much every time on her outright lies and misrepresentations by the CNN crew and by Bernie. He didn’t cave on his position on Sandy Hook parents’ lawsuit, which is an unpopular position; he didn’t cave on his position on Israel and Palestine; he didn’t unilaterally agree to endorse President Obama’s Supreme Court nominee if elected. Bernie doesn’t know how to sweet-talk political style. It is what it is, and millions of us find it utterly refreshing.

Of course, when things got a little hot Clinton threw Bill under the bus on the ’94 crime bill (yeah, maybe I was for it for a minute, but after all, he was the President of the United States!), then threw President Obama under the bus on Libya (yeah, maybe I had a little hand in the regime change thingy, but he was the President of the United States and made the final decision). I had an idle thought that maybe Bernie should let her walk off stage first, because who knows what she was hiding under that white coat thing she was wearing, and that place between Bernie’s shoulder blades, at the end of the night, must have looked pretty tempting. No, this woman would throw her husband, the President, her daughter, grandchild, mother and anyone else under the bus and worry about the tire marks later to win this thing. And you think she’s going to support YOU?

renate

(13,776 posts)
9. this is slightly OT, but while this is well written
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 03:53 AM
Apr 2016

I heartily disapprove of op-ed criticisms of Hillary's wardrobe choices.
"... that white coat thing...." : Bernie could wear the same suit every single day and nobody would 1) notice or 2) say a word. Using her clothing to diss her is so childish.

(Having said that... if I could give her some well-meant and not critical advice, I would suggest that she wear black pants all the time and then party on with whatever pantsuit jacket and top she wants. I honestly don't think that the monochromatic look from head to toe is good on anyone, except in neutrals. It looks like pajamas. But I do like the humor with which she embraces her pantsuits.)

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
16. Oh my gosh
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 04:52 AM
Apr 2016

"No, this woman would throw her husband, the President, her daughter, grandchild, mother and anyone else under the bus and worry about the tire marks later to win this thing. And you think she’s going to support YOU?"

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
19. And that leaves me scratching my head
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:02 AM
Apr 2016

Why would anyone vote for such a person who has clearly demonstrated such a lack of ethics?

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
22. I have met countless Bernie supporters but I have met only one Hillary supporter that I know of.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:12 AM
Apr 2016

It was late last summer. I asked her to tell me why she supported Hillary over Bernie and she said it was because "it is time for a woman president".

I asked her to name just one policy position that she holds that is stronger than the position Bernie holds. after a long pause her answer was "it is time for a woman president". I recently saw her ranting on Facebook about BernieBros so apparently she is still holding that position.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
25. I wouldn't mind voting for a woman for President
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:18 AM
Apr 2016

Heck, I'd be happy if we had a Congress full of Elizabeth Warrens, Bella Abzugs and Shirley Chisholms, with some Margaret Chase-Smiths thrown in for balance.

But Hillary is NOT the kind of woman I want in the White House.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
12. Caucuses
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 04:25 AM
Apr 2016

With 3.7% voter turnout (except WI). My point holds. Hillary has won and will continue to win more primaries and more votes than Bernie.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
13. Yes, caucuses render less votes than primaries. Well done for remembering that.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 04:28 AM
Apr 2016

Meanwhile: WHERE ARE THE TRANSCRIPTS CLINTON PROMISED 70 DAYS AGO?

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
14. Where are Bernie's 8 years of taxes?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 04:44 AM
Apr 2016

It gets really irritating when you all act like I have some sort of inside track to Clinton. I'm an ordinary voter, and I don't give a shit about those transcripts. I know your allies in corporate media are keen on it because it's utterly contentless and has nothing to do with the lives of American voters. Meanwhile, they say nothing about the continual string of campaign finance violations by someone who claims he can reform the entire system.

I'm sorry mining the billion dollars in GOP opp research hasn't been enough to take Clinton down, and now you're desperate for new material because your candidate can't win on the merits.

Your shouting is rude. Your claim is also false. She did not promise to release them. She said she would look into it. She did, and they learned no one gives a shit. Meanwhile, Bernie and Jane have earned 8 Pinocchios for falsely claiming they already released their full taxes.

I am under no obligation to put up with your tantrums. I'm through with you.

PufPuf23

(8,767 posts)
27. You are disingenuous and ugly to compare the finances and transparency of the Clintons to Sanders.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:22 AM
Apr 2016

Its is not worth the effort to type anymore in response to your post.

 

Califonz

(465 posts)
17. Clinton shills in the corporate media spin it for her of course
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 07:06 AM
Apr 2016

Clinton gets booed, Sanders gets standing ovation, yet Clinton "won" according to CNN, NYT, WaPo, etc.

More shameless than Pravda in Soviet times.

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