the ny connection is possible. trump will take ny, and several other blue states, in a ge if she is the nom.
and the other reality is that trump does not have to win every demographic. if enough disillusioned dems stay home, she won't get the votes. trump can get crossover votes. she doesn't even have a lock among dems, never mind the indys. and forget crossover votes, the gop will be yanking people off their deathbeds to vote against her.
she can't win
we need someone who can
getting "some" of all the demographics besides white males will not win anyone the presidency
Check the polls
dem turnout has been anemic except for millenials for bernie
you guys love math, so there it is.
she cannot win. its that simple
if anyone but trump gets it, his supporters will bail on the nominee. If trump gets it, historic numbers will come out to vote against him.
I know you're really angry that Bernie isn't ahead in the math, but I hope you are able to see all this more calmly at some point
to see into complete strangers thoughts and feelings over the internet. you should really market that.
as to the election, you believe hillary will beat trump in a ge. i believe she will get trounced. neither if us is going to change our opinion.
have a nice day
I can't see that all but the most stubborn will just forget that.
or are devouring themselves I could fly to Hong Kong and have one hell of a vacation. If Hillary is the nominee historic numbers of republicans will come out to vote against her. Trump will encourage his supporters to vote against her for the republican nominee and the Independents who break for dems will stay home along with a lot of fed up dems. Hillary won't win the White House.
I'm as calm as can be and well aware it would take a miracle to Bernie to win. I don't hide my head in the sand.
I think I'll give your political instincts all the consideration they deserve.
Trump is at 24 percent approval with ALL women, not just Dems. He's toast.
i have no interest in stopping them. to each their own
Response to creeksneakers2 (Reply #70)
and Sanders for a year, with his followers pushing right-wing propaganda for all it could manage. It may not have worked on liberals and most moderates, but the far left and strong-to-far right seemingly can't get enough.
I will eschew the highfalutin language my fans and foes have become accustomed to on this board and speak the idiomatic English which I am infinitely more fond of.
George Stephanopoulos asked Hillary how she felt about Herr Trump talking shit about her. She said it doesn't bother her and that's she used to being attacked. She did say it bothers her that Herr Trump talks shit about Hispanics, Muslims, women, the physically challenged, and other people.
Her response was pitch perfect. It's sad some would applaud a bully like Trump because they hate Hillary... He's a guy who regularly trashes minorities and encourages violence against those who disagree with him. He is a bad guy.
with zero chances of being president, especially if the thug party big shots take the nomination away from him like they are planning to do LOL
Etc., who brought this on themselves?
I can't step up and argue for her. This is what happens when you push a triangulating and horrific judgement candidate.
Trying to prevent buyers remorse with the weak candidate...
The M$M is burying info on the FBI investigation (only right-win sites are reporting on it) because they're waiting until she's the nominee to bash her with it.
I'm listening, for damn certain.
Now we're quoting Trump to campaign for Bernie Sanders? Really? How strange.
Now if Herr Trump is against you...its a bad thing?!
I'm not so sure Donald didn't take his cue from Bernie's supporters. Didn't they come up with it first this time around?
I don't know if I would go that far but I have no compunctions about stating there are some here who would use the words of a viper like Trump to harm Hillary because they hate her so much.
I don't think she actually thinks people will. Clinton ties to the Panama Papers, waffling on TPP, Keystone XL judgement, her principled statement on Gay Marriage before she evolved, emails on trade where she public ally is against the deal while advising her colleagues to vote for it, money and arms dealings with the Clinton Foundation...... We aren't even scratching surface on material here. Her recommendactions to Obama on Libya, her cozy ties with Wall St., the email judgement .... Calling HRC "crooked" is mild compared to what is coming.
In the HRC supporter bubble, you think everyone is supposed to overlook this baggage and poor judgement. Independents, Republicans, and some Democratic Party members can't snd won't compromise. Google and You Tube clips don't go away.
Bernie could have and possibly should have been much tougher from get go This is mild compared to what is coming down the road. Can't sweep off the damping stuff off the Google and rigged voting systems can work against the initial candidate establishment wanted to run.
Response to Jackilope (Reply #25)
HRC supporters can never admit their candidate is GOP lite or can honestly defend her baggage, so they use the ol' "you are the problem" approach.
With that note, I'll use my time more wisely and phone bank for Bernie. I'd rather have a better world for my kids and keep what social security I have banked up than lose it to a Corporate, triangulating, fracking loving, bought out "democrat" like HRC.
Pretending every attack on Clinton comes from the right and is bogus is intellectual laziness or willful ignorance.
Hillary has a ton of baggage, some of it GOP fantasy (Benghazi, Whitewater), some of it real (Her cowardly and cynical IWR vote, her speeches to big donors, her email mess, the FBI investigation, her flip-flops, her dishonesty on her positions and actions, Clinton Foundation irregularities etc. etc.).
Her bad judgment and the results from that far outweigh any good she has ever done.
Given you've had 20 hides prior, we will just consider the source of your attack.
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Do Not Feed the Energy Creatures. I must not feed the energy creatures. It's just idiocy. Let it go.
Arrghh it's hard not to get pulled in.
Wealthy white folk who hob nob the same circles.
I guess Hillary supporters are willing to gamble the welfare of the whole country with such a massively vulnerable candidate.
to call people. Sorry, but the American people are not going to fall for that shit. Hillary is no more crooked than Bernie Sanders, and she's A LOT more experienced.
It's a free country - or in the case of the Clintons, a "fee" country.
The Clintons really did attend Donald Trump's 2005 wedding
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trumps controversial campaign could just be a ruse to sabotage the GOP, said U.S. Rep. Carlos Curbelo, R-Fla. After all, the billionaire is so friendly with Hillary Clinton, Trump invited her to his nuptials.
More at the link...
showed her beating him (and that hurts his chance of winning the primary). If he doesn't really take her on, it begs the question - exactly was his purpose for running?
to realize what is going on to exist in a corrupt environment).
If Trump wants to go negative, he better buckle up. The Ds have plenty of dirt they can use against him. Hillary is used to attacks. Whenever Trump is attacked, he whines like a little wimp. NOT very Presidential.
but not directly from the opponent's platform.
Let's hope there is some room for substance in the debate.
At least she didn't hire a criminal lawyer!!