2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDon't think that Romney is not a threat to Obama in the fall. Romney may be one of those
people who only does as well as his competitors. The GOP slate were all a bunch of boneheads. Competing against Obama may raise Romney's game.
elleng
(130,865 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)He wasn't even close, as I recall, to beating McCain (MCCAIN!) in 2008. All this campaigning seems to have done little- or nothing- to improve his strength as a candidate for POTUS.
Behind the Aegis
(53,951 posts)I honestly believe the reason prop 8 passed in California is because everyone thought "it can't happen here." Guess what? It did. Romney may be a dolt on some levels, but don't underestimate the number of people who will vote against Obama, and those who will go third-party.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)left on green only
(1,484 posts)that is the unknown. That is why it would be wrong for any of us to act in a complacent manner towards the goal of his defeat.
Obamacare
(277 posts)Do you think enough of them will stay home or maybe write Noot in? Mittens will always have trouble with the base, its a million times worse than the trouble McCain had with the base. Palin, did come in and save the day for McCain. But I can't think of any other rethug as popular with the base as Palin is, that Mittens can add to his ticket.
FSogol
(45,476 posts)They always do what they are told.
musicblind
(4,484 posts)and then Hillary endorsed Obama at the convention. It was all hand holding and hugs for the democrats and everyone from the other camp was like "oh, cool, nevermind."
That's probably what will happen among the republicans.
I agree with the person that says we should act as if we are miles behind even when we are miles ahead.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)Millard proves day in and out he's an awful candidate. Firstly, with his massive money and organizational advantage he hasn't put away the rest of the clowns who are an embarassment to the American body politic. In 2000 georgie boooooosh used the same recipe to buy the nomination...Mittens has stumbled over and over in his quest.
Then there's Millard the debater/campaigner. The late, great Ann Richards' retort about georgie booooosh applies here..."He was born with a silver foot in his mouth". The more this guy attempt to "connect" with the riff-raff...err little people, he shows how out of touch he is. He's like the asshole in school who has a rich daddy and always is trying to either buy your friendship or impress you...either way he comes off as a total lout.
No matter who the rushpublican candidate is, they'll have a fractured party...the only thing Millard can and will run on is "I'm a white guy"...the only thing that will unite that inept and corrupt party.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)I'm not sure I quite follow your logic. If Romney's competition has been horrid (which it has), he should IMHO be doing much better than just "surviving" the primary like he has been. His personal fortune and Super PACs have largely been responsible for propping up his candidacy. I think that part of his problem is that he is not nearly as "conservative" as he claims to be and he's had to fit himself in a far-right mold that he, frankly, just doesn't fit in, in order to even have half a chance in today's GOP primary. He may come across as more relaxed and "at ease" moving back towards the center where he belongs in the GE but then it's going to become even harder for him to hold on to the far right (which hasn't really bought his lurch to the right anyway) and keep them eager to vote for him not to mention figure out a way to walk back some of the wacky far-right positions he's taken during the primary in order to win over independents. I'm just not sure he's saavy enough to "thread the needle" between the far right base he needs to win, as well as the independents he needs to court in order to win in the GE.
applegrove
(118,622 posts)someone else to get him going. Since he is dealing with a bunch of deluded idiots he looks perhaps more ridiculous now than when he is dealing with Obama (who is reality based).
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)He's arguably weaker than Santorum now.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)That was a stronger field, but still not all that strong. He failed then and is struggling now.
President Obama will connect with the voters far more. Plus, Romney doesn't excite the Repuke base. Romney would be enough to excite me to go to the polls to vote for Obama, but the Repukes are even more "pure" and will sit out. We can also match Romney's campaign money.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Rick Santorum as the nominee. I'm amazed at how many people have bought into the lie that there is no difference between Romney and Obama. It's not true!
jenmito
(37,326 posts)RFKHumphreyObama
(15,164 posts)Romney is perhaps President Obama's most formidable challenger. He always has been and the polls have shown it. That's why we've been cheering that all this damage is being inflicted on him during the primaries, so that he'll be greatly weakened going into the GE. And even then he'll be formidable because of the Supreme Court financing decision
polichick
(37,152 posts)For them it's a club - and the black guy ain't in it.
Plus, they're covering themselves by instituting nation-wide voter suppression.
If that fails, they'll turn to the Supreme Court to install their candidate - again.