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applegrove

(118,622 posts)
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:24 AM Mar 2012

Don't think that Romney is not a threat to Obama in the fall. Romney may be one of those

people who only does as well as his competitors. The GOP slate were all a bunch of boneheads. Competing against Obama may raise Romney's game.

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Don't think that Romney is not a threat to Obama in the fall. Romney may be one of those (Original Post) applegrove Mar 2012 OP
Makes sense, possible, doubtful, but we MUST NOT be complacent! elleng Mar 2012 #1
Doubt it. Four years ago, he had better opponents and his campaign still sucked. Drunken Irishman Mar 2012 #2
He's been running since 2007 Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #11
As long as too many people don't take this attitude, we should be fine. Behind the Aegis Mar 2012 #3
I don't think there'll be much of a third party run. No real candidate. No organization. RBInMaine Mar 2012 #5
I think Romney is a constant and it his electorate left on green only Mar 2012 #4
What about all the freerepublic rethugs who say they won't vote Mittens? Obamacare Mar 2012 #6
The Freepers will all fall in line and vote for Romney. FSogol Mar 2012 #8
Many, many people here said they would never vote for Obama if Hillary didn't win musicblind Mar 2012 #20
Only So Much Lipstick You Can Put On A Pig... KharmaTrain Mar 2012 #7
Huh? Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #9
I've noticed that Romney is more animated when his wife is around. Could be he needs applegrove Mar 2012 #14
Never be complacent, of course, but Romney is an empty suit with a lot of negatives. WI_DEM Mar 2012 #10
If Romney were that good a candidate he'd have put away Santorum and Gingrich and Paul by now. Arkana Mar 2012 #12
If Romney were that good of a candidate, he would've been their nominee in 2008... Drunken Irishman Mar 2012 #15
Agree mvd Mar 2012 #17
I haven't heard or seen many people making this assumption, hence why some of us would prefer Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2012 #13
He only beat Santorum by 3% in his home state after outspending him, too. n/t jenmito Mar 2012 #16
Who's assuming that? RFKHumphreyObama Mar 2012 #18
Besides, Republicans will be voting against Pres. Obama... polichick Mar 2012 #19

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
11. He's been running since 2007
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:58 AM
Mar 2012

He wasn't even close, as I recall, to beating McCain (MCCAIN!) in 2008. All this campaigning seems to have done little- or nothing- to improve his strength as a candidate for POTUS.

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
3. As long as too many people don't take this attitude, we should be fine.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:37 AM
Mar 2012

I honestly believe the reason prop 8 passed in California is because everyone thought "it can't happen here." Guess what? It did. Romney may be a dolt on some levels, but don't underestimate the number of people who will vote against Obama, and those who will go third-party.

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
4. I think Romney is a constant and it his electorate
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:42 AM
Mar 2012

that is the unknown. That is why it would be wrong for any of us to act in a complacent manner towards the goal of his defeat.

 

Obamacare

(277 posts)
6. What about all the freerepublic rethugs who say they won't vote Mittens?
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 03:37 AM
Mar 2012

Do you think enough of them will stay home or maybe write Noot in? Mittens will always have trouble with the base, its a million times worse than the trouble McCain had with the base. Palin, did come in and save the day for McCain. But I can't think of any other rethug as popular with the base as Palin is, that Mittens can add to his ticket.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
20. Many, many people here said they would never vote for Obama if Hillary didn't win
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:49 AM
Mar 2012

and then Hillary endorsed Obama at the convention. It was all hand holding and hugs for the democrats and everyone from the other camp was like "oh, cool, nevermind."

That's probably what will happen among the republicans.

I agree with the person that says we should act as if we are miles behind even when we are miles ahead.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
7. Only So Much Lipstick You Can Put On A Pig...
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:59 AM
Mar 2012

Millard proves day in and out he's an awful candidate. Firstly, with his massive money and organizational advantage he hasn't put away the rest of the clowns who are an embarassment to the American body politic. In 2000 georgie boooooosh used the same recipe to buy the nomination...Mittens has stumbled over and over in his quest.

Then there's Millard the debater/campaigner. The late, great Ann Richards' retort about georgie booooosh applies here..."He was born with a silver foot in his mouth". The more this guy attempt to "connect" with the riff-raff...err little people, he shows how out of touch he is. He's like the asshole in school who has a rich daddy and always is trying to either buy your friendship or impress you...either way he comes off as a total lout.

No matter who the rushpublican candidate is, they'll have a fractured party...the only thing Millard can and will run on is "I'm a white guy"...the only thing that will unite that inept and corrupt party.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
9. Huh?
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:51 AM
Mar 2012

I'm not sure I quite follow your logic. If Romney's competition has been horrid (which it has), he should IMHO be doing much better than just "surviving" the primary like he has been. His personal fortune and Super PACs have largely been responsible for propping up his candidacy. I think that part of his problem is that he is not nearly as "conservative" as he claims to be and he's had to fit himself in a far-right mold that he, frankly, just doesn't fit in, in order to even have half a chance in today's GOP primary. He may come across as more relaxed and "at ease" moving back towards the center where he belongs in the GE but then it's going to become even harder for him to hold on to the far right (which hasn't really bought his lurch to the right anyway) and keep them eager to vote for him not to mention figure out a way to walk back some of the wacky far-right positions he's taken during the primary in order to win over independents. I'm just not sure he's saavy enough to "thread the needle" between the far right base he needs to win, as well as the independents he needs to court in order to win in the GE.

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
14. I've noticed that Romney is more animated when his wife is around. Could be he needs
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:57 PM
Mar 2012

someone else to get him going. Since he is dealing with a bunch of deluded idiots he looks perhaps more ridiculous now than when he is dealing with Obama (who is reality based).

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
12. If Romney were that good a candidate he'd have put away Santorum and Gingrich and Paul by now.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 11:22 AM
Mar 2012

He's arguably weaker than Santorum now.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
15. If Romney were that good of a candidate, he would've been their nominee in 2008...
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:36 PM
Mar 2012

That was a stronger field, but still not all that strong. He failed then and is struggling now.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
17. Agree
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 11:34 PM
Mar 2012

President Obama will connect with the voters far more. Plus, Romney doesn't excite the Repuke base. Romney would be enough to excite me to go to the polls to vote for Obama, but the Repukes are even more "pure" and will sit out. We can also match Romney's campaign money.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
13. I haven't heard or seen many people making this assumption, hence why some of us would prefer
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 12:17 PM
Mar 2012

Rick Santorum as the nominee. I'm amazed at how many people have bought into the lie that there is no difference between Romney and Obama. It's not true!

RFKHumphreyObama

(15,164 posts)
18. Who's assuming that?
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:17 PM
Mar 2012

Romney is perhaps President Obama's most formidable challenger. He always has been and the polls have shown it. That's why we've been cheering that all this damage is being inflicted on him during the primaries, so that he'll be greatly weakened going into the GE. And even then he'll be formidable because of the Supreme Court financing decision

polichick

(37,152 posts)
19. Besides, Republicans will be voting against Pres. Obama...
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:52 PM
Mar 2012

For them it's a club - and the black guy ain't in it.

Plus, they're covering themselves by instituting nation-wide voter suppression.

If that fails, they'll turn to the Supreme Court to install their candidate - again.

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