Congrats to Hillary winning despite all her negatives

[thebeautifulstruggle]

complete lack of vision and representing the elite status quo

2 things to be thankful for

Obama beat her in 08 and got some decent things passed that wouldn't have if she had won, as she has no courage of conviction

and while there may not be another candidate as honest as Bernie, he has helped to pave the way another revolutionary candidate who also has the courage to point the finger right at the source of the problem, instead of being part of it

yes, sour grapes thread

[Robbins]

1. If obama hadn't been black

she would have won In 2008.The Clinton's racism doesn't bother majority of blacks in 2016.They even were ok with swiftboating
bernie on civil rights.

The democratic party has been exposed as corporate and neocon party.no room for real progressives

at least when republicans win now they can't say some didn't warn them.

[senz]

2. Well, her negatives aren't going away, because they're part of what she is.

So whatever happens to her, she'll always have them.

She's earned them; they're hers.

[Lucinda]

3. How bad is Bernie then if he can't beat her? n/t

[thebeautifulstruggle]

6. he's great

he just can't beat everything she's got going for her in her corner for the last 20 years

he especially can't win in these states with high levels of independents who weren't aware they had to change their affiliation 8 freaking months ago

[senz]

9. Well, let's look at it, Lucinda ....

Hillary Clinton has been running hard for for the presidency for 15 years. It's the only thing she wants in life.

With her big family name, she has accumulated a massive fortune in unearned funds.

With her big family name and spousal status, she's got a shitload of political clout in D.C.

With her big family name, huge fortune, political clout, and reputation for vengeance, she's got an enemies list that strikes terror in the hearts of elected Democrats.

With her big family name, huge fortune, political clout and enemies list that strikes terror in Democratic hearts, she's got all kinds of Democratic endorsements.

Bernie Sanders has given his life to help people through government. Although he accomplished a great deal as a four term mayor and 25-year U.S. legislator, he didn't even consider running for president until early last year and didn't throw his hat in the ring until last spring.

Bernie has taken on the 1%, and the 1% own the MSM, so Bernie has been pretty much ignored by the media while Hillary -- always on the take with big corporations -- has gotten plenty of publicity. Bernie has no super pacs and does not take corporate funding, so he has had to run without large corporate funding.

So you ask,

"How bad is Bernie then if he can't beat her?"

Well, Bernie came from 60 points behind, last May, to catch up with Hillary this month, and he has won the previous seven primary contests -- so, unless you have no sense of fairness, even you would have to admit that Bernie Sanders isn't "bad" at all.

The primaries aren't over. We, the people who are supporting Bernie Sanders because we want an honest, trustworthy candidate who will represent the people and not the corporations, the 99% and not the 1%, want him to take it all the way to the convention.

We think the nation, and the world, would be far better off with Bernie, and not Hillary, in the White House.

[thebeautifulstruggle]

4. this thread wasn't about AA's, but since you said it

they vote establishment Dems unless it is the first AA candidate with a real chance in Obama

they are the most conservative out of the D voting block, in-fact self describing themselves as more conservative than liberal

im ready for the liberal wing of the Democratic Party to pull a Tea Party type heist and get it back to core progressive values

though maybe it never was, and us liberals are just another voting block that aligns more with the Corporatist Dem party

but this thread wasn't about AA's so...

[PeaceNikki]

5. Wow.

[thebeautifulstruggle]

7. wow what?

[Lucinda]

8. No kidding. n/t