2016 Postmortem

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts) Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:16 AM Apr 2016

End The Talking Point: Crowd Size

After last night's large defeat for 'native son' Bernie Sanders, can we officially end the talking point about crowd size? For weeks now, all we've been hearing about is the massive size of the crowds Bernie has been drawing. It didn't make a difference in Texas, or Florida, or Ohio, but it was supposed to matter here in NY. This was different.

No, it's wasn't.

Bernie's big crowds look to be the entirety of his support in some areas of NYC, and they were not even close to enough to have him catch up to Hillary's support. Also, let's keep in mind that in the most populated city in the country, Bernie was drawing crowds that Syracuse University draws for a random basketball game... when there's a foot of snow on the ground.

Crowd size does not matter. It has been proven.

Votes matter.

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End The Talking Point: Crowd Size (Original Post) CrowCityDem Apr 2016 OP

If it makes you uncomfortable, don't use it. Orsino Apr 2016 #1

It doesn't exist. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #8

Faulty logic. Orsino Apr 2016 #9

"Bernie supporters love to rally, Clinton supporters love voting." nt IamMab Apr 2016 #2

Hillary supporters are actually eligible to vote in the primary! NurseJackie Apr 2016 #4

The crowds might be turned off by what they're hearing ecstatic Apr 2016 #3

Bernie Sanders speaks out about election irregularities. peace13 Apr 2016 #5

Yep. rock Apr 2016 #6

There's no reason to end it: the people who keep making it can keep making fools of themselves alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #7

Orsino

(37,428 posts)

1. If it makes you uncomfortable, don't use it.

Reply to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:19 AM

Apr 2016

Just don't pretend it doesn't exist, when Sanders has won more delegates in some contests.

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)

8. It doesn't exist.

Reply to Orsino (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:45 AM

Apr 2016

He draws crowds in every place, but only wins in some places. Therefore, it doesn't have any effect.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)

9. Faulty logic.

Reply to CrowCityDem (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:53 AM

Apr 2016

It's a factor, but only one factor.

IamMab

(1,359 posts)

2. "Bernie supporters love to rally, Clinton supporters love voting." nt

Reply to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:20 AM

Apr 2016

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)

4. Hillary supporters are actually eligible to vote in the primary!

Reply to IamMab (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:23 AM

Apr 2016

That's a big one too!

ecstatic

(32,641 posts)

3. The crowds might be turned off by what they're hearing

Reply to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:21 AM

Apr 2016

at the rallies. Not just from Bernie, but from his surrogates and fellow participants. The negative tone might be a turn off.

Can someone describe what Bernie's rallies are like from a neutral perspective?

peace13

(11,076 posts)

5. Bernie Sanders speaks out about election irregularities.

Reply to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:27 AM

Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton...not so much. But trust that she will have your best interests at heart later.

rock

(13,218 posts)

6. Yep.

Reply to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:29 AM

Apr 2016

Welcome aboard.

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)

7. There's no reason to end it: the people who keep making it can keep making fools of themselves

Reply to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:30 AM

Apr 2016

50,000 people in Washington Square Park! Yahoo!

Bernie lost every borough in New York City. He didn't win a county south of the Tappan Zee. His New York losses were massive: 60-40 in Brooklyn, 70-30 in the Bronx, 66-33 in Manhattan! (Psst: Washington Square Park is in Manhattan). A complete ass kicking.

The more they make the crowd size argument, the sillier they sound.

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