Senator Ted Cruz's wife has the Goldman vocal transcripts? Then Hillary needs to leave the race.

[ViseGrip]

Former Senator Bob Kerrey of NE has already made a very public statement, "if Hillary's Goldman Sachs transcripts get out, it will end her campaign!"

You know these elites are always compromising each other in such nefarious ways, some downright gross and perverted. While she was honing her rolodex, laying her 'seed work' as always for the bigger job future, did she not think that even if SHE is the owner of all her words, the reporter taking the notes is her hire, that THEY would not record it to use against HER, if and when THEY needed it? Hillary knows this game. I wondered why when she left State and was 'thinking about running', why is she doing these speeches? They will bring harm to her campaign! Bill is out speaking making millions! We needed her to take care of herself, for the race today. She chose the money. She chose Sid. She's had a lot of choices to make. Selling fracking around the world at State, knowing she wanted to be the President. We are better than all of this.

Like so much else in her suitcase, senator Bob Kerrey is right. And you can bet it's Cruz's wife, who WORKED FOR GOLDMAN SACHS who would have done this, so easily, while she listened to the speech herself.

This is why it's Hillary, who needs to get out of this race.

[ViseGrip]

1. I don't think it's Trump. If Ted is not the nominee, I'll bet he'll sell them to Trump if he has not

already!

[FreakinDJ]

13. Ted Cruz's wife has the transcripts ?

Copyright Violation is the last thing they are going to worry about before releasing the tapes.

If Goldman can afford $5Billion in fines for bilking Millions of Americans out of their homes, they could drag out a Liable Lawsuit into Eternity

Actually the Koch Brothers would offer to pay the penalties and probably save a couple hundred $Million on what they plane to spend against Hillary

[snowy owl]

39. My take is that Cruz' wife heard the speeches and knows what was in them. "vocal" transcripts?

That's my guess. I've never heard of a vocal transcript.

[FreakinDJ]

44. I hearing "recording"

They owned the rights to the building - pretty hard to tell them they can't record their own event

[dsc]

80. actually it is very easy to tell them that

I am, in my off time, the board chair of a gay mens chorus. We can't record our own concerts for anything other than archival use without paying for a mechanical licence of the music we have preformed. Said licence being rather expensive.

[FreakinDJ]

84. You said it yourself "anything other than archival use"

Now who owns the "CopyRights" is an entirely different issue.

Pretty hard to argue that Hillary is not a "Public Figure" and the American People DON'T have a "Right to Know"

The Video could be released by some one other then Goldman and the argument made the American People have the "Right to Know" what is on those tapes. Sure she could argue the point all the way up to the Supreme Court if she wants but by then the Tape is already out there

[COLGATE4]

86. What does Hillary being a 'public figure' have to do

with Copyright?

[FreakinDJ]

93. Just as Nixon attempted to stop the release of Watergate information

and Woodard sat on the Witness Stand cutting the names out of his note book - it did nothing at all to prevent the release of the information

[LiberalFighter]

112. Nixon was a public official at the time.

Clinton was not.

[FreakinDJ]

126. The "Test" of a "Public Fiqures" is not as high as you think

Nice try - but Clinton running for office excludes her for protection

People in a Position of Responsibility


Concerning the first group, while politicians are obvious candidates, it also includes businessmen, and, on a more local level, teachers, clergymen and policemen. The definition of privacy (according to the OED) states that people should be “free from public attention, as a matter of choice or right.” In my opinion, taking a position of power takes away from this area of privacy. It is proportional, in that at the highest level of power (politicians) your actions will necessarily be of public attention, whereas at the lower level (teachers) the majority of your actions should not be of interest to the public.

http://hubpages.com/politics/Do-Public-Figures-have-Privacy-Rights

This is really Hillary's Fault and Hillary's Fault alone


The Republicans obviously have the tapes and are waiting for the proper moment to inflect the maximum amount of damage to her soiled reputation. Who knows, with the eventual release she could even beat Trump's Negatives.

Had Hillary chosen to diffuse the situation and release the transcripts when this first became an issue then she would not be sitting on the "Time Bomb" she is now. So lets not devolve into "It's all Bernie Supporter's fault". Hillary was and for the time being, is fully in control of the situation. She chose to perform the speaking engagements, and she choose to try and conceal it after the fact

[LiberalFighter]

130. Looking for any excuse to disqualify her. Too bad

[CorporatistNation]

49. It Is Called A Little Hand Held Digital Recorder... I'm sure that she could afford it!

Someone taped it... That's for sure... Did they frisk and remove cell phones at the door? :WTF:

[nadinbrzezinski]

53. Digital recording

I do that often at city hall, for example, or debates.

[treestar]

89. I thought Sachs was evil for it's size

Now you are imagining it as. So small you can assume any employees heard the speech.

[Else You Are Mad]

76. It will just be anonymously leaked

And whoever releases them, it will not be able to be traced back to any candidate and a team of high powered lawyers will make sure of that before it happens. no copyright lawsuits will ever succeed and won't be an issue. And, that isn't really applicable anyway for reasons I won't get into here.

Hillary is in very big trouble.

[JackRiddler]

125. No kidding!

And the copyright issue is hilarious. Like anyone will care once a tape and full transcript are on the Internet.

[brush]

129. This is a bullsh_t OP. If she/he has such damaging material it would have already been released . .

because they don't want Hillary.

They want to face Sanders in the general where they will go after him about his Nicaragua/Cuba/Moscow baggage that his supporters and the majority of the American public don't know about.

He's never been attacked like Hillary has been for 25 years.

They'll do it 24/7 non-stop.

[ViseGrip]

2. Kick!

[Aerows]

3. I don't think the hard core

establishment Democrats realize how many damaging things are going to miraculously fall out of the sky if she is our nominee.

The speeches are nothing compared to the conflict of interest with the Clinton Foundation.

[shalafi]

4. Our warnings are falling to deaf ears, sadly....

It's not on me if Clinton ends up losing the GE.

[ViseGrip]

6. Well it's looking like if we lose, we get a more progressive candidate.

Nutty hair and talk, but better ideas!

I hear this more and more every day....

[Aerows]

7. Me either.

I have spoken about this more than twice and it just gets pushed aside like she can overcome the massive Secretary of State accepting foreign donations while approving arms deals conflict of interest.

I hope this GE isn't a disaster, but I certainly can see it headed into free-fall if she's what we are stuck with.

[Dustlawyer]

56. It still so ironic to me that Hillary attacks Bernie on guns!

[The Second Stone]

74. The dead children of Newtown are ironic to you?

It's a joke to you? Sanders sold his soul to the gun lobby. This is every bit as compromising and cowardly as you accuse Clinton of being. The children of your neighbors are dead and you are cynically sneering it's ironic while ignoring that your candidate does the same thing as everyone in politics while claiming he is pure. He isn't. He's a poorly educated, white-flight political hack socialist who has a god complex. He's an asshole, just like the rest of them. You don't like that Clinton covered for the war in Iraq? Well, Sanders covers for Sandy Hook, Columbine, Aurora and countless others that are far closer to home.

[Dustlawyer]

75. You are so wrong for this! You hurl this vile crap at me for political gain or you are too caught

in your blind fervor for "Hillary" that you refuse to look at facts!

First, what happened at Sandy Hook was beyond the pale! Every it as bad as the millions of people, men women and children killed around the world by the weapons deals Hillary made for her MIC donors;

Second, as an an attorney I know a thing or two about THE LAW! Bernie has stated he voted against holding a gun manufacturer liable for a legally sold, non-defective gun. if some one buys a defective gun and it blows up in their face, they are liable. If someone legally buys a gun and blows away a whole bunch of innocent kids, not liable. That is the law unless you want to ban guns. Your candidate hasn't come out wanting to ban guns has she?

Third, Bernie wants to get the money out of politics to restore Representative Democracy so that our politicians will once again be accountable to us, We the People! After Sandy Hook over 90% of us wanted an assault weapons ban and background checks, something that Bernie was for before this election. The power of the Lobbyiests prevented any action to do this despite the 90+% of us who wanted it! Hillary is the poster child for taking campaign money from Lobbiests and everyone else! She wants to perpetuate this system

Don't you go hurling vile accusations about something so horrible at me! Why don't you spend your time learning about how things really stand. Also, go look at all of the dead children from the Boko Haram massacres and look in the mirror!

[Else You Are Mad]

77. Perfectly put. nt

[The Second Stone]

97. All corrupt lies by Bernie, the corrupt liar

Look in the mirror yourself counselor and you will see only yourself. You parse Sanders support of the NRA because you think it is "legal"? Clearly, it is legal under the law to support Sandy Hook gun sales. But it ain't moral by a long, long stretch. Bernie has all that blood on his hands by supporting gun manufacturers and sales and the NRA all these years.

So how is it that you don't know irony, satire or sarcasm when they are right in front of you?

[Dustlawyer]

99. Whatever you say. I do recommend that you back away from the keyboard for awhile.

[The Second Stone]

100. Well, I recommend that you vote for Bernie

your gun loving hero.

When it comes to supporting guns, Bernie is in Republican company. I wish he had tried to crash that party instead.

[casperthegm]

102. Second Stone, I admire your passion but you are simply wrong

Sorry, Dustlawyer has the facts right. This is not something that is a matter of opinion. These are facts that Dustlawyer has laid out for you.

I think most progressives don't like easy access to guns and various loopholes that exist. But to hold a manufacturer responsible when someone goes to a store and buys one of their guns legally and then uses it to commit a crime? Really? The manufacturers somehow know that their legally manufactured guns are going to be used to commit a robber or murder?

[glowing]

101. I do believe this must be one of those Paid persons from Brock. Ignoring them is best.. they do

do more to harm Clinton than help.

Everyone knows the guns in Sandy Hook were purchased legally, and then stolen from the mother by the son.. The first victim of her having legal assault rifles was herself...

[bjo59]

104. You know he is not a corrupt liar. What are you trying to achieve by claiming that he is?

[The Second Stone]

136. And you know he is. What are you trying to acheive

by claiming he isn't? He is bought and paid for by the NRA, he despises the South because it has black people in it that voted for Hillary, and he moved to Vermont to get away from blacks. What are the bros trying to achieve by supporting the slaughter of US children. I will never vote for Sanders.

[Aerows]

115. Well said! n/t

[magical thyme]

123. Hillary approved how many millions? billions? in gun sales for Remington? you know, the manufacturer

of the Sandy Hook guns?

Sanders had nothing to do with the NRA. He voted for the people of Vermont, as he was hired to do.

The NRA was betrayed by their candidate, so they gambled that Sanders would be a one-termer and punished "their" candidate. They lost their gamble. That is all.

[TDale313]

128. You're sick. Welcome to ignore. n/t

[creeksneakers2]

61. One donation slipped through

I don't believe arms were sold to that country.

"During Clinton's four years as secretary of state, the foundation banned all donations from foreign governments due to conflict of interest it would pose for the foundation and the Obama administration."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/politics/clinton-foundation-defends-foreign-donations/index.html

What gets pushed aside here is the truth when it is exculpatory.

[Aerows]

64. That is a big pile of bullshit.

She accepted $10m from Saudi Arabia in exchange for finagling a deal for several hundred jet fighters.

I'll just stop right there. I'd be up all night refuting your post if I get started, and I have an early day tomorrow.

[creeksneakers2]

73. Hope you slept well

The Saudi donations go back as far as 2001, long before the arms deal. Hillary could not have finagled a deal alone, since arms deals are incredibly complex, often take 7 years, and are mostly handled by DOD. We've been selling arms to Saudi Arabia for decades, so there's nothing new about this arms deal. Those deals create lots of jobs here. You have no evidence that an exchange of one thing for the other took place.

What you are alleging is illegal. The Clintons make no money from the foundation. Why would they break the law when there was nothing in it for them?

[COLGATE4]

88. There you go again, ruining a perfectly good screed

with those pesky facts. Hillary MUST be guilty of something, anything according to these folks. Maybe we could resurrect Whitewater or the death of Vince Foster. That's more their speed. Or when she ran cocaine for the Medellin cartel in Arkansas. Why I heard just the other day that she actually sold crack out of the Governor's mansion!!!

[Aerows]

111. That makes it better exactly, how?

Do you realize you just championed George Bush?

Have mercy, this election is something else.

[peace13]

82. Save your breath.

These people will justify anything. I try to imagine what they look like walking around my town and I just can't. Very sad. Unreal!

[Aerows]

109. Look at what I just replied to.

Happy with the idea that Bush traded arms with KSA, so therefore it is unimportant that Hillary expanded that practice in exchange for a $10m donation.

I'd say that we are living in interesting times, but that isn't my style. I'll just skip right on by that and get to the fucked up designation.

[magical thyme]

124. one donation? more like 20...

Under Clinton's leadership, the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments have given money to the Clinton Foundation, according to an IBTimes analysis of State Department and foundation data. That figure -- derived from the three full fiscal years of Clinton’s term as Secretary of State (from October 2010 to September 2012) -- represented nearly double the value of American arms sales made to the those countries and approved by the State Department during the same period of President George W. Bush’s second term.

http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187

[840high]

17. We'll still get blamed.

[Aerows]

25. The fuck I will

I've said this since last year.

She is a flawed candidate and no matter how hard anybody pushes to have her be the first female President, she will fail because of the tons ethically, lawfully dodgy crap that will come right out the second she's the nominee.

[2banon]

68. Nailed it, Sister. Nailed it.

[grasswire]

62. There is no shame in advocating for the best possible nominee.

There is no "blame" in not wanting Hillary.

[Aerows]

69. You would think

we nailed her to a cross to hear some people speak here at DU for issuing the slightest bit of criticism.

If she and her supporters are that thin-skinned, wait until Trump or Cruz get a hold of her in the GE.

We're fucking Democrats on a Democratic forum and a decent portion of us think she is not a good candidate.

Who thinks this is a great idea going into the GE when there will be competition with Republicans?

[beedle]

134. Realtively new here to DU

great posts ...

I have a question: why is there an 'ignore button', something that many people are reluctant to use, myself included, but no 'promote', or 'like', or 'follow' button?

Is DU simply about finding people you don't agree with and ignoring them? Maybe I just missed the spot where I get to follow interesting people?

[artislife]

5. I can't wait for that "front" do go down.

And I hope the text and/or audios of those speeches get released now.

[ViseGrip]

9. They won't if it's repubs that have them. They don't want to run against Bernie.

So they will save them.

I hope ANON will 'leak' them, and really change America with Bernie Sanders.

[artislife]

16. Any way is fine by me. nt

[Aerows]

28. I hope Anonymous releases them

right before Tuesday. On a Monday morning. That will be all that anybody talks about.

She's worse than the 47% Romney.

[ViseGrip]

46. Before Tuesday...

[Aerows]

50. Monday morning

Is probably what they are shooting for. Talk about it all *day*

[Aerows]

10. Please before it is too damn late

We'll all be waking up to President Trump or President Cruz if she is the Democratic nominee and that scares the hell out of me.

[anigbrowl]

22. Wait, you mean the GOP might launch attacks on Hillary Clinton?

Oh my goodness, you've really opened my eyes. That possibility never occurred to me despite keeping a weather eye on Free Republic for the last decade or so. If only I had realized earlier.

[Aerows]

30. Attacks that are fully justified?

Yeah, they are on the way.

[apnu]

92. GOP attacks on Hillary that are justified? That would be a first.

The whole history of GOP attacks on Hillary is made up nonsense. Look at Whitwater, look at Benghazi.

[yourpaljoey]

83. A career of evil will be ripe for the shredding

[COLGATE4]

90. You really need to find a new literary genre for

your Hillary bashing. "A career of evil" just doesn't cut it.

[yourpaljoey]

96. All great authors nail their colors to the mast of truth

I see you are reading my posts... nice.

[COLGATE4]

113. Not any more...

[uponit7771]

107. Needs video proof not just transcripts UNLESS it comes from Clinton herself. No one trust

... republicans but republicans minded people

[Aerows]

110. If Hillary Clinton showed up at your door

and said it to your face you would still doubt it because you are so caught up in support for her.

Which is completely ironic given that in 2008 she was the devil to many of her current supporters.

[uponit7771]

114. I don't care if she did, I wouldn't doubt it at all and I have many post sayin she was underpaid

... for her speeches and should've taken more.

I'm not going to demonize her for making a lot of money from her influence, its conservative like thinking to believe someone who took 1/30th of one year salary over 5 years is being "bribed"

that's stupid.

Sanders hasn't apologized for ANY of his votes that weren't the best interest for all of America so I'm glad she has changed her ways since 2008.

[Aerows]

117. See?

That's exactly what I said. You don't care about right and wrong, you care about Hillary winning by any means necessary.

Good heavens. I've never been able to stomach such an attitude.

[Dem2]

8. You post nothing by attacks trying to take down Hillary

What's the deal here?

[ViseGrip]

12. This is what is coming. Figure it out now, because this is what THEY will do!

And when it's all fucking true, her baggage, which is HER fault, we will lose.

Have you seen the latest Panama Papers?
Have you seen the latest emails with Sid?

Are you kidding me? She's been corrupted. I don't want a republican!

[Dem2]

19. So transparent

You think we're all idiots.

[840high]

23. Yes I have read

all the emails she had with Sid. What in the hell made her hire him against Obama's wishes.

[ViseGrip]

47. exactly, she promised him. He finds out after she's gone? I wonder what he says about this...

[Aerows]

18. I can't speak for the OP

but ya'll are flirting with disaster by continuing to run a severely ethically flawed candidate.

You think Republicans aren't going to open the gates on the Clinton Foundation and Hillary's time as Madame Secretary of State trading arms in exchange for surprising donations?

No one with a rational mind believes that the flood gates will not be opened. I can't believe anybody is even *partially* fooled, let alone believes that it won't destroy our party going into November.

[Dem2]

21. "ya'll"

Stop reading there, not sure who you're bunching me in with, but your prejudices make you seem very small.

[Aerows]

26. I wasn't the one that

stopped reading at ya'll. I suggest that you sweep your own front porch before talking about the leaf on my back door.

[Dem2]

32. I support both candidates

So I stop reading biased assumption crap posts.

[Aerows]

33. Put your mind at unease.

It isn't biased assumption.

[artislife]

20. You mean, with her words? We want to know what she said

If it was all cool and Democratic, then no problem.



But we all are not convinced of it, are we. You as well, I think

[Dem2]

24. Yeah right

Nobody cares what the slanderous Hillary attack dogs are pretending to be pure about.

So childish.

[Jitter65]

11. Well, if there is anything in those tapes to damage Hillary, bring it! We all should know.

Otherwise, STFU about the tapes. And they better not be doctored. I think this is just more BS from BS camp.

[ViseGrip]

14. The Cruz's will let you know, when they want you to know.

When she is our only candidate and we are fucked.

[grasswire]

70. can't "bring it" until she releases it. nt

[reformist2]

15. She did all these speeches because she knew she needed Wall Street to "bankroll" her campaign!

Pun intended.

[rjsquirrel]

127. There's no pun there to intend eom

[procon]

27. This must have a link, you know, for fact checking purposes? nt

[Aerows]

29. I don't doubt they are floating around

They don't bother me nearly as much, though, as the situation with the Clinton Foundation. That's a deal-breaker under any circumstance.

[ViseGrip]

48. Absolutely, the Foundation is enough, is enough, is enough!

[okasha]

31. Hmmmm.

Your transparency page shows eight hides, one for posing the question "Is she queer? Just askin'." and another demanding the Hillary Group be shut down.

Hmmmm.

Sixteen mill, and whaddaya get?
Another day older and deeper in debt.

[sheshe2]

34. Oh my, I just peeked.

[Tarc]

37. That is a rather interesting transparency report

Particularly the affecting of a lisp to insult Barney Frank, a notable gay former Congressman. Lovely...

[okasha]

42. Yet another proud member of Homophobes for Bernie.

[Codeine]

41. Blatant homophobe and lover of far-right sourcing.

Sounds about typical for the New-Look DU.

[okasha]

45. Long ago, on a DU far away

that kind of shit got a poster tombstoned within minutes. No more.

At least it still earns a bigot a hide.

[grossproffit]

59. And they want Bernie so badly. Coincidence?

[LiberalFighter]

116. I wonder if that person is really a Bernie supporter or a Republican troll?

[Codeine]

119. I think that's nonsense.

He attracts a lot of great people, but anger-based campaigns also attract angry assholes and haters. He's clearly the latter.

[LiberalFighter]

121. That is why I had Republican troll.

[Octafish]

35. Wow. Looks like things are gonna get interesting.

Back in '92, I had hoped Bob Kerrey would have been the nominee.

Guy's got more than a couple issues I don't agree with, but he has integrity.

[grasswire]

72. yes, he almost was able to stop George W. from becoming president

He called a press conference on the Friday before the election 2000 to challenge Bush to explain his Texas Air National Guard service record (specifically the absences). Before that could happen, a FAUX affiliate broke the news about W's very old DUI. The DUI story obliterated the AWOL story, which would have been infinitely more damaging.

[Tarc]

36. ho-hum

Not sure which Camp Sanders meme is more inducing; the peddling of Emailgate or the sand-pounding over speech transcripts.

[Godhumor]

38. Even if they were released, it will make no difference to 99% of the voters

None.

[snowy owl]

40. I'd say "it will make no difference to Hillary supporters." The primary will be over and

in the GE - who knows. Bernie having made money the centerpiece of his campaign - yes, it could make a difference. Many,many people will abandon her. I think that anyway. That would be the best present Trump or Kasich could get. God help us if Cruz is the nominee.

[Unicorn]

57. Her current supporters wouldn't care what she says to the 1%.

The independents and the liberal Democrats will.

[lumberjack_jeff]

67. Her current supporters don't care about much of anything.

It's all about identity and nothing at all about policy.

[Live and Learn]

85. +1000 nt

[lumberjack_jeff]

65. We'll see.

I suspect that they'll make the most difference to the Sanders democrats who were screwed over by her refusal to release them when it could have avoided Trump from taking the white house.

[DCBob]

43. The "Whitey Tapes"!!

[Aerows]

51. Well that was a positive contribution.

You almost seemed like you equated Hillary with Nixon then went of on a tangent that could be construed as racist.

[RandySF]

52. I found the transcripts here.

[Unicorn]

54. I don't have faith in Hillary supporters to think for a second that

they would leave her over mass corruption and promises do everything as president that she can to benefit the 1%.

I think they've already shown they don't care about those issues.

[Lodestar]

55. Seems like strategically, waiting to unload on a candidate would be most

advantageous AFTER they are selected to run for prez. That is
when the real dirt will fly.

[Eko]

58. Well hot damn,

a Republican candidates wife has something against someone with no proof presented. Ya gotta believe that.

[PFunk1]

60. If this turns out to be true then it it's a game changer

And will hand the white house to the repugs in the GE if Clinton gets the nod. After all they have been raring to run against her for over a decade now.

[reformist2]

63. The Goldman transcripts only have value to Bernie, not to Repugs.

[lumberjack_jeff]

66. Sure they do.

Given the choice between voting for the fake Republican and the real deal...

[2banon]

71. I totally missed this re Kerry's comments AND Cruz's wife working for Sachs.

WoW. Holy Shite!

That puts things in quite a precarious predicament.

I never expect for the Justice Dept to nail Hillary any more than they'd go after Bush/Cheney. Fitzmas still burns in my memory..

And all the conflict of interest wrt Clinton Foundation, I recall Cheney and Halliburton. Maybe HRC and Bill has had that factoid in mind themselves and much more. who knows how these people with their privilege think

But if Cruz's wife has the recordings of these private meetings.. those might be used to "indict" Hillary not legally, but politically.

And here we go again..

Ground Hog Day Revisited.

I can't believe the Democratic Party Establishment is so eager to relive the political nightmare that was the 90's, all over again.

Just blows my mind. Really it does.

[HereSince1628]

78. Ok, off topic but why call these "vocal transcripts"?

I know I'm getting old, but is there a technicality that turns a recording into a vocal transcript?

Script as a word root implies something 'written', which is to say turned into text, aka script.

I feel like there could be some important parsing I'm missing... but I just don't get it.

[Mike Nelson]

79. Oh, no...

Those who said they would never, never, never vote for Hillary Clinton will now never, never, never vote for her!

[gordianot]

81. Why limit this to Cruz, Christie's wife Mary Pat also worked for Goldman-Sachs.

Who endorsed Trump? Between being investigated by the Federal Government and having your words used against you, Hillary is persistent. Is this how someone wants to spend their last two decades?

[treestar]

87. Proof ms. Cruz has these?

Are you assuming that everyone who worked at Goldman Sachs can get them?

[randome]

91. Transcript Fairy to the rescue!

[hr][font color="blue"][center]TECT in the name of the Representative approves of this post.[/center][/font][hr]

[Autumn Colors]

94. The deal was that HRC was the only one to receive a transcript

Somewhere out there is a recording that the transcriptionist used to type the transcripts, so there's at least one recording in existence ... somewhere.

[randome]

95. Is this about a dream you had? Because that might be TMI.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]TECT in the name of the Representative approves of this post.[/center][/font][hr]

[Onlooker]

98. After the primaries, what risk are the transcripts?

If the transcripts show Hillary to be pro-Wall Street that's not going to hurt her in the general election. Most liberals will vote for her no matter what, and there is a whole group of moderate Republican-leaning independents who would actually like it if Clinton was sympathetic to Wall Street. So, if Cruz or Trump have the transcripts, I don't think they will release them except as an act of desperation late in the campaign.

[LiberalFighter]

118. Good point

[Oilwellian]

105. Mika Brzenski: "I know a print reporter that has the transcripts"

VIDEO: http://gawker.com/which-reporter-has-copies-of-hillary-clinton-s-secret-g-1760570910

[Rosa Luxemburg]

132. if she knows then hand them over

[annavictorious]

106. My gut feeling is that there are plenty of snippets that can be manipulated

to sound damaging if they are taken out of context. We saw something similar happen with George Clooney's statements last week, and it only served to strengthen the argument that both the media and partisans manipulate the information it disseminates to fit a preferred narrative.

It would be interesting to get transcripts of the talks that Senator Sanders gave to large dollar donors at the fund raising retreats that he hosted for the DSCC to see just how damaging selective reporting of cherry-picked statements can be to someone's overall message.

If Mrs. Cruz has "vocal transcripts" and chooses to make that information public, let her. No one except for Republicans and sufferers of CDS is going to believe that Heidi's manipulation represents a full and honest account of the speeches.

If the argument is that Hillary should bow out because the Republicans are going to use things she has said in the past to try to negatively define her, then maybe the Democrats should just sit this one out because this is going to happen no matter who the candidate is. Ask President Obama.

[LiberalFighter]

120. It was explained by someone else

that a transcript does not capture the mood or intent.

[Aerows]

122. Mitt Romney's 47% speech

may or may not have captured the mood or intent, but that was the final nail in the coffin on his bid for Presidency.

Hanging hopes on Hillary being our nominee is a fool's errand.

Republicans have enough ammunition to blow up the moon. It is going to come down to the Clinton Foundation. Conflict of Interest galore.

I'm not going to sit here and pretend I don't see the mistake in the making.

[speaktruthtopower]

131. She's not stupid...

there was probably mild pandering, but its not likely there are videos of them all chanting "screw the poor" together.

[cherokeeprogressive]

133. I bet they're pretty short actually.

Something like "Pass the foie gras please."

[nolabear]

135. Nice try.