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Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:51 AM

 

Boston Globe: An Open Letter To Bernie Sanders

Dear Bernie:

I know you and I have had our differences over the past few months, so perhaps I’m not the person you’re most inclined to listen to about your political future. But please, hear me out.

You’ve had a pretty good run so far. A year ago, you were trailing Hillary Clinton by 50 points in the polls. No one gave you much of a chance of winning a single state, let alone 16 of them. And there certainly wasn’t a person alive who thought you’d out-raise the mighty Clinton campaign-cash harvesting machine. You spent $46 million in April. Are you kidding me?

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But here’s the thing – and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but maybe a little tough love is in order — you’re not going to win the Democratic nomination. This isn’t one of these “yeah, it’s a long shot, but maybe if I get lucky and everything goes my way” things. You’re not going to overcome Hillary Clinton’s lead in pledged delegates and you’re certainly not going to convince super delegates to vote for you over her. I mean, think about it: You’re trying to convince them to vote against the person who is almost certainly going to win in pledged delegates.

And even if you could win that way, would you really want to? In fact, if we’re really being honest here, the way your campaign has gone the past six weeks isn’t the way you want to win — or even the way you want to lose. Remember back in May 2015 when you said you didn’t want this campaign to be about Jeb Bush, Hillary Clinton, or Bernie Sanders? Remember when you said you weren’t going to engage in character assassination and personal attacks?

The rest: http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2016/04/22/open-letter-bernie-sanders/AfEtRwYJmTJ5lTNIuw4q8O/story.html?s_campaign=bostonglobe%3Asocialflow%3Atwitter

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Reply Boston Globe: An Open Letter To Bernie Sanders (Original post)
JaneyVee Apr 2016 OP
Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #1
NurseJackie Apr 2016 #14
Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #22
NurseJackie Apr 2016 #23
Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #24
NurseJackie Apr 2016 #25
gordianot Apr 2016 #2
beedle Apr 2016 #3
sheshe2 Apr 2016 #4
azurnoir Apr 2016 #5
Alfresco Apr 2016 #6
Name removed Apr 2016 #7
JaneyVee Apr 2016 #10
Name removed Apr 2016 #11
thomservo Apr 2016 #21
Carolina Apr 2016 #15
Tarc Apr 2016 #8
Name removed Apr 2016 #12
BooScout Apr 2016 #16
tritsofme Apr 2016 #18
Tarc Apr 2016 #19
reformist2 Apr 2016 #9
Name removed Apr 2016 #13
Carolina Apr 2016 #20
Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #17
Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2016 #26

Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:57 AM

1. Yawn. Another vote for the "lesser of two evils", "not as bad", "hold your nose" plea.

 

No sale.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:11 PM

14. As if write in votes make a difference.

Those have the same effectiveness as registering "independent" to punish the party. Specifically: zero.

It's an empty and selfish gesture that comes from pride and vanity. Just ask president Kucinich.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #14)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:40 PM

22. Opinions differ. Even among Democrats.

 

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." Thomas Jefferson(D)

Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.
John Quincy Adams(D)

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #22)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:25 PM

23. Sentimental. Not based in reality.

Thanks for sharing.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #23)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:34 PM

24. Are you accusing them of lying? Or, of not being "real" Democrats?

 

Is it unreal and sentimental to vote for candidates who have little chance of winning?

McGovern?

Mondale?

Dukakis?

I voted for all of them. I guess I'm not "realistic" and just "sentimental".

Want reality?

I'll probably vote for someone I prefer to the establishment candidates in November.

Reality: My vote will not decide the outcome of the election.

How about yours?

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #24)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:14 PM

25. Lying? Seriously? (Oh, brother!) Let me try again. How about this ...

... it's a sentimental and romantic view of a much simpler world as it was 250 years ago. It's archaic and not based on the complex political reality of today.

Is it unreal and sentimental to vote for candidates who have little chance of winning?

Not in the primaries. Only in the general.

McGovern? Mondale? Dukakis?

President McGovern? President Mondale? President Dukakis?

Sadly, "perfect" is not always on the menu. By the time the general election rolls around, you'll have to eat what you're offered, or starve. Personally, I'd rather have the strongest candidate that can defeat the GOP rather than to flatter myself and starving because I'm pouting about not being to vote for the "perfect" (whatever that may mean at any given point in time) candidate who won't defeat the GOP.

Fringe (however it's defined at any given moment in time) write-in candidates NEVER win national elections. Never. If you want to change the "establishment" then you must become part of the "establishment" at all levels and work for change, not shout for change, or pout for change.

Reality: My vote will not decide the outcome of the election.

You're correct. (Finally, something we can agree on! Whew, I thought it was a lost cause.)

How about yours?

I'm confident that my two votes for Hillary will not "change" the election, but they will go toward her nomination and her defeat of the GOP.

Nice chatting with you.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:03 AM

2. An anachronistic paper fit for bird cages.

Do people do that any more? It is too bad there is not a similar function for electronic media.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:07 AM

3. Oh Jesus

 

And even if you could win that way, would you really want to?


Really? Really? The Clinton endorsing Boston Globe can say that with a straight face?

So all the 'rules' that favored Hillary were 'rules are rules, we're just following the rules and doing what they allow us to do." but if Bernie wants to do what's within the rules, suddenly some rules are just too anti-democratic to be used?

Establishment ass-wipes like that can just go to hell ... in 4 years when establishment media is buried, I will be making a yearly pilgrimage to piss on their graves.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:18 AM

4. KnR

Thanks JaneyVee.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:20 AM

5. Nope Bernie's not a quitter

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:52 AM

6. Bernie knows Hillary will be the nominee. The measure of the man is how he responds.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:06 PM

10. Not voting only benefits Republicans.

 

Come on, you all should know that.

It has nothing to do with your conscience, its a vote, youre not deciding which puppy to save from a house fire.

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Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:17 PM

21. Exactly!

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Response to Name removed (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:12 PM

15. Mine, too

And I plan to vote as you described. $hillary is a loathsome DINO foisted upon us by:

- a bought and paid for consolidated media thanks to Bill's Telecommunications Act
- a totally corrupt, corporate owned, Turd way DNC

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:01 PM

8. The Sanders campaign suspension is at the point an inevitability

The only questions are when it will happen and what he will want from Clinton so she can enter the convention as the presumptive nominee.

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Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:12 PM

16. ...

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Response to Name removed (Reply #12)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:13 PM

18. LOL...oh wait, are you serious? Hardcore denial around here!

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Response to Name removed (Reply #12)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:13 PM

19. Can you show us which races you think Sanders can win to overtake Clinton in...

...pledged delegates? Feel free to use http://demrace.com, save and post your results here.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:04 PM

9. Camp Hillary really doesn't know when to shut up about this, do they.


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Response to Name removed (Reply #13)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:14 PM

20. Exactly!

The more if this bullshit, fall in line tripe I hear, the more certain I am that I will never vote for HRC

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:13 PM

17. And Open Response to the Boston Globe

on Edit:


You're "looking for love in all the wrong places...."





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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:17 PM

26. Earth to Boston Globe - go to hell!

how lame can they get

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