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Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:23 PM

The lunacy has begun: 'MARCH ON THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION'

The following was just posted in DU. For your reading pleasure - and amusement: (I personally love the part about WE WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS>

...Bernie hasn't lost yet; however, Hillary and her supporters are already gloating over the crushing of Bernie's Political Revolution. That can't be allowed to happen! There are plans for a massive march on the Democratic Convention in support of Bernie Sanders and his agenda. There's a Facebook page for the March and two event pages:

March on the Democratic National Convention
Bernie Supporters March on Philadelphia - Democratic National Convention

The first already has 2.2K people who've signed up as 'going' and 6.8K who've indicated that they're 'interested.' (I

Come out to Philadelphia and join us as we march on the Democratic National Convention this July! This march is in protest to the highly biased and unfair treatment, demonstrated by the DNC, towards presidential candidate, Bernie Sanders. It has been blatantly clear that the DNC has tried to tip the scales during this election, and has NOT represented the will of the citizens. We have to make our voices heard. WE WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS! This march is also designed to put pressure on the superdelegates to cast their vote in accordance with their constituents. We must unite together, because that is what this campaign is about, not dividing us apart.

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COLGATE4 Apr 2016 OP
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think Apr 2016 #4
CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #42
JoePhilly Apr 2016 #54
Lucky Ducky Apr 2016 #55
JoePhilly Apr 2016 #56
beveeheart Apr 2016 #146
mcar Apr 2016 #72
still_one Apr 2016 #78
George II Apr 2016 #79
think Apr 2016 #82
George II Apr 2016 #85
moriah Apr 2016 #100
think Apr 2016 #112
moriah Apr 2016 #113
think Apr 2016 #117
moriah Apr 2016 #119
Trenzalore Apr 2016 #132
think Apr 2016 #133
TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #12
moriah Apr 2016 #102
TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #106
seabeyond Apr 2016 #13
still_one Apr 2016 #83
Loudestlib Apr 2016 #107
KingFlorez Apr 2016 #22
ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #28
IamMab Apr 2016 #169
Codeine Apr 2016 #2
kstewart33 Apr 2016 #14
NurseJackie Apr 2016 #103
Loudestlib Apr 2016 #109
MineralMan Apr 2016 #118
bjo59 Apr 2016 #3
COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #32
cantbeserious Apr 2016 #5
COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #15
cantbeserious Apr 2016 #17
COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #31
MineralMan Apr 2016 #6
think Apr 2016 #8
MineralMan Apr 2016 #10
dlwickham Apr 2016 #19
MineralMan Apr 2016 #20
think Apr 2016 #23
MineralMan Apr 2016 #24
think Apr 2016 #30
Rex Apr 2016 #154
Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #99
MineralMan Apr 2016 #114
TM99 Apr 2016 #115
redstateblues Apr 2016 #58
randome Apr 2016 #59
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Aerows Apr 2016 #68
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COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #167
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djean111 Apr 2016 #111
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moriah Apr 2016 #105
COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #168
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Marrah_G Apr 2016 #125
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beaglelover Apr 2016 #126
DCBob Apr 2016 #108
COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #139
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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:24 PM

1. All along, it was Bernie who wanted a coronation.

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:27 PM

4. Martin O'Malley accuses DNC of 'rigging' primary process in Clinton's favor

 

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Response to think (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:12 PM

42. Hey... Philly Is NICE In JULY! WTF! Lets Go Hold These Dirtballs In Charge To Account!

Lets see what we can accomplish with People Power...

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Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #42)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:36 PM

54. You ever been in Philly in July?

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #54)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:37 PM

55. That's why God invented misters.

 

Portable ones too!

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Response to Lucky Ducky (Reply #55)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:39 PM

56. No kidding!

Hot, thick sticky air, super high humidity ... usually no breeze.

Its like breathing soup.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #56)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:39 AM

146. Which is exactly why I don't

visit my MD relatives and Philly friends in the summer. JoePhilly, you compared it to soup, but coming from Denver, when I leave the airport and get those first few breaths of humidity, I feel like I'm going to drown. Happily, that feeling doesn't last very long.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #54)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:38 PM

72. Uh huh!

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #54)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:54 PM

78. You hit the nail on the head with that one. Which only goes to show that geography and weather

isn't one of their strong suit

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Response to think (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:55 PM

79. August 2015?

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Response to George II (Reply #79)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:57 PM

82. Laugh all you want. DWS limited debates & used poor scheduling to help Clinton. It was too obvious.

 

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Response to think (Reply #82)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:00 PM

85. Oh? Well now, how many debates have there been? And did you check the polls shortly after each?

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Response to think (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:05 PM

100. Nice find from the 2015 article graveyard.

Has he said anything recently to say he still agrees?

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Response to moriah (Reply #100)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:27 PM

112. Nope. You think he was lying about it when he made these statements 8 months ago?

 

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Response to think (Reply #112)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:30 PM

113. Opinions evolve. If that automatically makes people liars....

... then we could go into things I would rather not in the interest of not hurting Bernie's supporters feelings.

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Response to moriah (Reply #113)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:45 PM

117. O'Malley: DNC hiding debates behind football games and 'Frosty the Snowman' (Dec 29th 2015)

 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/29/politics/omalley-blasts-dnc-debates/

Looks like he was still hot about things even as late as Dec 29th. Who knows maybe after dropping out he may have decided it wasn't worth discussing for a number of reasons.

Your description of evolved is pretty funny considering Hillary is a true pro at evolving and shifting on the issues.

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Response to think (Reply #117)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:55 PM

119. As I said, I'm not going to get into it.

You're correct, though, that most, if not all, politicians have changed a view on something in decades of public service. Bernie and Hillary are both politicians.

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Response to think (Reply #117)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:52 PM

132. Two rules in politics for people who are behind

Demand more debates. Blame the media. I've never witnessed a losing campaign that has not done both these things.

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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #132)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:02 PM

133. Then you'd remember ther were more debates in 2007 before the first debate occurred

 

in 2015 than we had scheduled for this primary.

We had only 4 debates total before the first primary this time with 6 debates total scheduled. By July of 2007 we had already had 4 debates.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=475139

In 2007-2008 there were 26 debates total with many of those happening early on so people could get to know the candidates.


That is why O'Malley and Saunders were complaining.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:39 PM

12. Hillary always looked snappy in a tiara.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #12)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:07 PM

102. Unless by "tiara" you mean handband...

... never saw her that schmancy at any formal affair.

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Response to moriah (Reply #102)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:10 PM

106. Good point. Friday casual, seven days aweek.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:40 PM

13. I KNOW.... that is what is too funny about that. Fuck that voter and this voter, Sanders should

 

win because. I have had my giggle over that one.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #13)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:57 PM

83. So they believe that the person who garners the most votes shouldn't win. Is that the kind of

revolution they are talking about?

That will go over real well

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Response to still_one (Reply #83)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:12 PM

107. Kim Jong-un won 100% of the votes with 100% turnout. n/t

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:51 PM

22. Yes

That has been evident for quite awhile.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:59 PM

28. Are your eyes really brown?

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 04:45 PM

169. Yep, and that's why Clinton winning sticks in their craws so much. Saint Bernard didn't get the

 

obeisance that he was DUE from all Democrats because of how righteously pure he is, and somehow it's become the crime of the century.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:26 PM

2. Not interested enough to vote

but still interested enough to storm the gates? Methinks this will sputter out quietly.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:41 PM

14. Frankly, storming the gates is more fun.

Staging a demonstration is a reasonable thing to do. However, I doubt that it will have much of an impact.

Better to work on building the movement, but that's something that not many Bernie supporters seem interested in doing. At least not yet.

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Response to kstewart33 (Reply #14)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:07 PM

103. No time to register properly, but ...

... plenty of time to show up at rallies and protests, plenty of time to paint signs and change the batteries in their bullhorns.

Classic!

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #103)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:18 PM

109. They can't even be bothered to get a free ID card!

There is no reason they can't just get an ID card, everyone has one. I know I've heard this kind of thing before, not from democrats, but I know I've heard it.


LOL so funny

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #103)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:47 PM

118. And then, young men and young women, demonstrating

together. I remember that from the late 60s. What a combination. I'm old, but my memory is fine. Good times. Why not?

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:26 PM

3. Be amused all you want. It makes no difference whatsoever.

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Response to bjo59 (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:02 PM

32. I know. I look forward to the non-event.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:28 PM

5. This Citizen Applauds The March

eom

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:42 PM

15. All 400 who actually show up will certainly

make the convention see it their way. CHICAGO 2016. I can see it now.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #15)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:43 PM

17. Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:00 PM

31. Time will tell. Wishful thinking isn't my strong suit.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:31 PM

6. Yeah, good luck with that.

"WE DON'T LIKE WHO THE PEOPLE VOTED FOR! DOWN WITH THE PEOPLE! WE WILL CHOOSE THE CANDIDATE!"

Wonderful...

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:37 PM

8. Free speech. why? it's the corruption. feel free to deny it but Americans in both parties

 

Are sick of corporate corruption.

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Response to think (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:39 PM

10. No problem. We all have the right to peaceably assemble.

I'd stress the "peaceably" in that sentence. We'll see how that goes. Torches and pitchforks won't be desirable, I'm thinking.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:44 PM

19. how about tar and feathers

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #19)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:46 PM

20. Not advisable, either, I think.

iPads and smartphones. Those are the tools today for peaceable protest.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:52 PM

23. It's a march. There have been plenty of marches in America in recent years. How many had pitchforks

 

and torches at them?

No where in this event description do the organizers promote the idea of looking up Sears and Roebuck to stock up on pitchforks. Perhaps you know something that would indicate there are more sinister plans at play here?

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Response to think (Reply #23)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:55 PM

24. What I know is that there will be many demonstrations at

the convention. There always are. I'm sure there will be a Free Speech Area for the demonstrators. They can chant there, while the business of the convention continues as usual. Good luck to them, as I said.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #24)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:00 PM

30. "Free speech zones." OH my....

 

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Response to think (Reply #30)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:54 PM

154. Well well well...

 

Look who is for Free Speech zones...

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #24)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:00 PM

99. If you recall...

 

Free Speech Zones were started by Shrub and his people. How ironic that you now support them.

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Response to Buddyblazon (Reply #99)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:38 PM

114. I don't support them. I recognize them.

There is a distinct difference. Do you think that demonstrators will be marching through the convention floor? I remember 1968. So does everyone. If there are demonstrations in opposition to what is happening at the convention, they will be contained away from it.

Do you believe otherwise?

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Response to Buddyblazon (Reply #99)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:42 PM

115. Once a conservative, always a conservative apparently.

 

Shrub and Clinton are buddy buddy!

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Response to think (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:56 PM

58. The corruption of which Bernie could not name one example?

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #58)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:58 PM

59. Yeah, THAT corruption. But it should be capitalized: The Corruption.

 

Don't worry about what it means. Just repeat it over and over again.
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Response to randome (Reply #59)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:00 PM

61. Proof of Quid pro quo? Didn't think so

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #58)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:01 PM

62. Are you familiar with the term "soft corruption"? It's a perfectly legal form of influence peddling

 

But that makes it no less insidious.

“It’s the corruption, stupid”: Hillary’s too compromised to see what Donald Trump understands

By Bill Curry - TUESDAY, FEB 23, 2016 05:00 AM CST

The key 2016 issue is outrage over a rigged system by special interests. There's a reason Hillary doesn't get it

In 1992, James Carville, Bill Clinton’s senior campaign strategist, scribbled a terse memo containing three instructions. Two are long forgotten. The third may live forever. “It’s the economy, stupid” became a meme because it nailed the issue that drove that election. One overarching issue drives this election, but neither Hillary Clinton’s campaign nor the Democratic Party got the memo. Any swing voter could tell them what it says: It’s the corruption, stupid.


~Snip~

Poorly written and atrociously reasoned, Citizens United rests on three simple, absurd precepts: Money is speech; corporations are people; and corruption is OK so long as it is sanctioned. OK, the third one isn’t so simple, but it sure is absurd. It pertains to what Justice Kennedy, the opinion’s author, calls “soft” corruption, by which he means the entire system: big donors, lobbyists, lush retreats, revolving doors, exorbitant speaking fees. The whole shebang.

Kennedy says that unlike “hard” corruption (bribery, mainly), “soft” corruption harms and offends no one, so Congress can’t regulate it. The issue hadn’t come up at trial, so there was nothing about it in pleadings. There’s tons of data about how evil it is and how much we hate it, but Kennedy ignored it. He offered no proof to support his “finding.” He just said it was so and now it’s the law.

~Snip~

Clinton calls it an “artful smear” to suggest that she, Obama or any Democrat is influenced by the money they say corrupts every Republican. Her anger is partly a pose. But any card-carrying member of the establishment will take any suggestion that the system is compromised as a personal insult. This is true of elite reporters as well as politicians.

The Times’ David Brooks recently praised Obama’s “superior integrity,” calling his years in office “remarkably scandal free.” It’s all true, but recall Anthony Kennedy’s clueless distinction between hard and soft corruption. He said soft corruption was better but it’s worse really. Soft corruption is systemic corruption; a cancer on the body politic. We kill it or it kills us, and sooner than you may think.

Asked about her Goldman Sachs speaking fees, Hillary offered two rationales. One was the perennial favorite “everyone does it.” The other was equally flippant. (“That’s what they offered.”) Since leaving the White House she and Bill have hauled in $153 million in speaking fees. Her deepest flaw is she doesn’t know it’s wrong. As I’ve written twice here and said often elsewhere, I’ve great respect for her. Her flaw is denial, not dishonesty — but her denial runs deep....

Read more:
http://www.salon.com/2016/02/23/its_the_corruption_stupid_hillarys_too_compromised_to_see_what_donald_trump_understands/

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:34 PM

7. I think it's great to see liberals stand for liberal principles

 

Nothing wrong with that. Many democratic and independent voters who may have sat this election cycle out or voted green, feel invigorated enough by the Sanders campaign's message that they're willing to march in support of it. I've been a democratic voter all my life and I don't want a republican lite candidate who will go forward with the same trade and energy policies that are more beneficial to corporate interests than they are for the rest of us.

Calling this "lunacy" makes me wonder what the credentials are to be a member here on DU. I thought we were the liberals who stood for progressive principles. Ted Cruz is a lunatic. Continuing policies that are bad for the environment and hurtful to the working poor is lunacy. Sticking up for progressive principles? Seems right on to me.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:38 PM

9. Get the porta potties first though. Oh, and that permit. Nt

 

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:42 PM

16. JimRob has some connections if they need a deal. nt

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Response to Codeine (Reply #16)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:48 PM

21. NO! Never get your portapotties from JimRob.

He never cleans them. They stink of right-wing crap all the time.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:31 PM

51. Portal potties?

Where are we sending them to?

Do they look like red telephone booths?

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Response to passiveporcupine (Reply #51)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:37 PM

71. There's a parallel universe where people

are obsessed with trying to discover why shit keeps suddenly appearing out of nowhere.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #71)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:36 PM

148. It's a pretty undignified way to enter a parallel universe, if you ask me.

Sucked through a toilet, pants around ankles, right in the middle of communing with nature.

It's the sort of situation Harlan Ellison could probably make something out of.

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Response to Buns_of_Fire (Reply #148)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:39 PM

149. "'Repent, Harlequin', Said the Shitsuckman." nt

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Response to Buns_of_Fire (Reply #148)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:39 PM

150. Stephen King already went there

 

It's a short story in one of his many compilation books. I loved it but it's not for
the squramish.

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Response to farleftlib (Reply #150)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:55 PM

155. Stephen King. Of course. I should have guessed.

I've got most of his anthologies on my Kindle. Time to recharge it and browse through the stories I haven't read yet.

Thanks. See you on the other side!

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Response to Buns_of_Fire (Reply #155)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:02 PM

157. I thought with your avatar image

 

you might have known about it. Enjoy! But don't say I didn't warn ya!

If I had to guess I'd say it was Full Dark, No Stars

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:59 PM

60. THE CAKE IS A LIE

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:39 PM

11. The lunacy is thinking a Third Way candidate with 100 mule trains' worth of baggage is going to

 

win the GE or actually help anyone but the 1%.

What's wrong with a protest march? As American as apple pie! or is it just the purpose of the march that you object to.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:44 PM

18. From now on I refuse to take any post that uses

the perjorative "Third Way" seriously.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #18)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:56 PM

25. The clintons are the ones who made it a perjorative

 

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Response to artislife (Reply #25)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:00 PM

29. I profoundly wish I was wrong about this

 

but Hillary is going to be totaled if she isn't indicted first over the email bullshit.

The real problem is the conflict of interest that she engaged in for the Clinton Foundation while she was Secretary of State.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #29)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:10 PM

38. Please provide links which demonstrate beyond

a reasonable doubt that she engaged in activities which constitute legal conflict of interest vis a vis the Clinton Foundation while she served as SOS. Evidence only, please. Not "I feel" or "seems to me" or "someone said". Real evidence.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #38)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:28 PM

65. If you don't know by now

 

you don't want to know.

Thus I'm not going to waste my time.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #65)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:35 PM

70. So, the bottom line is that you're just shit-stirring. What I expected.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #70)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:41 PM

73. May I politely suggest

 

that you are the expert here on that.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #73)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:48 PM

75. Why? Because I asked you to support the calumnies that

you post? It's an attempt to get you to support all these baseless allegations with some kind of facts. But that seems to not be possible. You prefer to throw a shit bomb and then run and hide, offering only bullshit excuses when asked to document what you claim.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #38)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:59 PM

120. Here you go (I decided to help Aerows with the proof)

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280158157

Paul is almost done with his timeline but every article and.piece of information about the investigations (emails and pay for play) are in that link including the Saudi arms deal followed by the Clinton Foundation donation which is probably the most well known.

Oh, and they're all from articles and research posted here on DU so Aerows is right, if you've missed it, its because you deliberately decided to "miss" it.

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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #120)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:42 PM

130. That is not proof .

 

Baseless accusations aren't proof. Hundreds of baseless accusation aren't proof and that is why Hillary and Bill haven't been arrested or indicted in all the ridiculous investigations for over 25 years.




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Response to puffy socks (Reply #130)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:48 PM

131. You managed to read hundreds of links and articles in 40 minutes?

 

Uh huh.

Credibility shot.



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Response to puffy socks (Reply #130)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:50 PM

152. I think not.

Sometimes true allegations cannot be proven either for lack of sufficient investigation or thwarting or obstruction of the judicial process.

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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #120)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:07 PM

134. 99% of what is in this link is about the so-called 'e-mail scandal'.

The posts regarding the so-called 'conflict of interest' Aerows accuses her of (and to which I responded) is based only on some very vague, inconclusive (but very slanted) 'reporting' from 1) Fox News and 2) Breitbart, quoting the noted legal scholar Marsh Blackburn plus with reprint from Rupert's Wall St. Journal. 15 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

With sources like these you couldn't have convicted Jeffrey Dahmer, even if he'd been caught with somebody's arm in his mouth. This is nothing more than regurgitating rank Repuglican innuendo made without a smidgen of actual proof. Let me know when someone actually comes up with something that Law enforcement takes seriously. Until then, posting shit like this is just doing the Republican's job for them.

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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #120)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:08 PM

135. No, I saw this crap before. Just never bothered with it. nt

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Response to Aerows (Reply #29)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:20 PM

64. Still waiting for some proof to support your allegations.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #64)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:28 PM

67. Keep waiting.

 

Google is your friend and you are just as capable of using it as I am.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #67)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:50 PM

76. The person making the allegation has the burden of

proving it. It doesn't work the other way around.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #67)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:09 PM

93. If you have evidence please post it.

 

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Response to puffy socks (Reply #93)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:01 PM

121. I did. Post #120 nt

 

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #64)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:58 PM

84. That's the last straw that Sanders supporters have to grasp onto - that Clinton will be...

...."indicted", even though it's been demonstrated time and again, and admitted by even REPUBLICANS, that no crimes have been committed, and she's not even under investigation.

Too laughable.

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Response to George II (Reply #84)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:03 PM

87. It gets tiresome to hear the same crap repeated here on DEMOCRATIC Underground

again, and again, and again. But yet, when you ask one of these folks (who are obviously possessed of a great deal of insider knowledge that has escaped all the press so far) to document what they're alleging, all you get is either a) guilty silence or b) some bullshit like "Well, you can Google it if you want to". All bluff and bravado, hoping hope against hope that something, ANYTHING will happen to Hillary so that she won't be our nominee. The reality that it's not going to happen does not appear to penetrate the clouds of Pixie dust that apparently envelope their thinking.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #18)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:05 PM

34. Are you ashamed of the Third Way and their principles?

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Response to frylock (Reply #34)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:07 PM

35. No, I don't accept the term.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #35)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:10 PM

39. They're self-titled.

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Response to frylock (Reply #39)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:34 PM

68. The person you are attempting to reason with

 

will do nothing but demand proof, waste your time, and then declare themselves the winner because they wasted your time.

There is nothing you can do with somebody like that.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #68)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:07 PM

90. proof is a waste of time?

 

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Response to puffy socks (Reply #90)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 04:31 PM

167. Yep. Asking for actual proof destroys their narrative.

They deflect and snark but, when push comes to shove and they are asked to put up or shut up they invariably try to back away. They're bullshit artists and they know it.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #35)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:13 PM

124. That's like looking at a rock and refusing to call it a rock

Very silly.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #35)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:53 PM

153. In other words you deny reality. That fact is the Third Way exists for a purpose.

That purpose was to move the Democratic party rightward. It has worked on a lot of people like you. The Third way is not the traditional Democratic way or the republican way, it is a way that splits the differences.

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Response to BillZBubb (Reply #153)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:01 PM

156. Thank you for telling me who is and who isn't a 'genuine' Democrat. I've voted

the straight Democratic ticket since 1964. How about you?

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #156)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:03 PM

158. You are welcome. I told you that the Third Way exists and why. Deny it all you want.

I've voted for the Democratic nominee in every election since I was able to vote. Not this time if it is Ms. Golden Sacks.

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Response to BillZBubb (Reply #158)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:07 PM

159. We'll miss you.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #159)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:09 PM

160. I'm not going anywhere. But thanks for hinting at a purge.

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Response to BillZBubb (Reply #160)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:12 PM

161. You people are so fucking bitter that you are even

driven to turn an innocent remark into something objectionable. Fuck you.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #18)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:34 PM

52. First of all, so what?

 

Second, the Third Way is quite serious about cutting away at Social Security - Bill was going to privatize it until The Blue Dress appeared. The Third Way is quite vocal about Liz Warren "getting out of hand" - they let us know that, in an article they wrote for the WSJ. The Third Way advises the New Democrat Coalition - a nest of DINOs whose agenda is eschewing that silly old ideology and cooperating the the GOP. Which never bodes well for ordinary citizens. I take them seriously.

And yeah, "Third Way" certainly is a pejorative.

Anyway, I have the feeling that you don't take any post you disagree with seriously. Gotta tell ya, I don't need or want your approval, so it's all good!

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Response to djean111 (Reply #52)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:06 PM

101. hey, fly up to my house in July and we can go together,

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Response to hollysmom (Reply #101)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:24 PM

111. I may actually really do that!

 

Give Holly a hug for me, and give her too many treats, too!
Since I was born in Philly, and grew up there, I would also like a real hoagie and a real cheese steak.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #18)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:44 PM

116. This is ridiculous.

 

Perjorative?

Third Way, DLC, neoliberalism, New Democrats, you do realize these are all actual & real things, right?

Sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming won't change that. Ignoring the political philosophy and economic leanings of your chose candidate does not speak well for you as an adult. Don't you care what your candidate is actually espousing?!

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Response to TM99 (Reply #116)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:10 PM

137. I imagine a lot of things that most of us learned to disregard

when we grew up are real to you.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #137)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:33 PM

142. This standard go to insult now

 

from the Clinton crew must be part of that outreach to the youth right?

So your defense is the 'get off my lawn you crazy kids' now?

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Response to TM99 (Reply #142)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:34 PM

143. No, it's more kinda like, "don't go away mad, just go away".

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #143)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:42 PM

144. But I thought y'all were all about unity

 

and making sure Clinton wins in November?

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Response to TM99 (Reply #144)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:55 PM

145. Yep. nt

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #18)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:11 PM

123. Truth hurts

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #123)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:09 PM

136. So does reading bullshit.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:58 PM

26. I wish I could view the unraveling

 

of the Democratic party with such joy and glee.

It just makes me sick, instead.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:04 PM

33. Democracy = "lunacy" ?

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Response to GreatGazoo (Reply #33)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:08 PM

37. Funny how

 

that graph appears to end before the NY primary!

Lol

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Response to GreatGazoo (Reply #63)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:20 PM

96. Leads what?

?

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Response to GreatGazoo (Reply #33)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:16 PM

47. Unfortunately for Bernie, votes count, not graphs.

But it's a nice graph.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:07 PM

36. Oh yea, that's gonna work.

Super delegates who have been maligned by Bernie supporters for months will suddenly switch to Bernie because these folks march.

Not happening.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #36)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:14 PM

43. Once they see the megaphones and the torches

they are all going to be swept up in a cloud of righteous self-examination and, recognizing the error of their ways will proceed to nominate Bernie by acclamation. And the trumpets will blow, the angelic chorus will join in and Donald Trump, taken aback by the spectacle of real democracy in action will concede to Bernie without having to go through all the wasted time and money an election would cost.And the lamb will lie down with the lamb. (But, as one observer pointed out., the lamb probably isn't going to get much sleep)/

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #43)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:35 PM

53. lol!

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:10 PM

40. Remember all the people who pledged to come to the ENOUGH IS ENOUGH march inDC?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #40)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:14 PM

44. Wasn't enough? (Just guessing) nt

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:10 PM

41. Democracy is lunacy?

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Response to G_j (Reply #41)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:15 PM

45. No, pipe dreams are.

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Response to G_j (Reply #41)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:16 PM

46. Democracy chose Hilary

 

And people are going to march against it?

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Response to NobodyHere (Reply #46)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:17 PM

48. Because "We're mad as hell and we're not going to take it"

Or something like that...

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Response to NobodyHere (Reply #46)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:53 PM

77. Yes, but

Republicans don't want here, and many of those pushing this crap are not really Democrats, Liberals, or Progressives, they are right wing trolls trying to do their best to get Democrats not to vote in November. Sadly some people are gullible enough to actually believe the trolls, and fall for their bullshit.

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Response to G_j (Reply #41)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:08 PM

92. only if it does not benefit the queen

 

she has already bought and paid for a large amount of those delegates and probably feels like she owns them.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:20 PM

49. Oh FFS

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:21 PM

50. Shades of '68 when we got stuck with Humpty.

 

Hopefully, at this one, the cops won't riot.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #50)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:28 PM

66. Yup

 

And this year it is both

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #50)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:56 PM

81. That or 1964 with the Freedom Democratic delegates

 

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:45 PM

57. "...superdelegates to cast their vote in accordance with their constituents."

 

I think most Clinton supporters are okay with that.
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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:34 PM

69. Looks Like Karl Rove

Has a plan B. This kind of shit comes right from the republicans play book. Those who promote shit like this are REPUBLICANS who are pretending to be liberals. Why are threads like that even allowed on DU?

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Response to Andy823 (Reply #69)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:43 PM

74. Some Republicans and other disgruntled Bernie-adorers who can't

bear the thought that he won't be the nominee and try to vent their frustrations by imagining that they are going to be part of some grand 'revolution' at the convention that will result in their hero emerging victorious in spite of everything.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:56 PM

80. Thanks for letting me know.

I'll be there.

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Response to ridgenvalley (Reply #80)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:14 PM

95. Go for it. And give my best to the other 50 or so who show up.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #95)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:23 PM

98. Smug, arrogant and entitled comment.

By all means, keep it up! There'll be plenty more than 50.

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Response to ridgenvalley (Reply #98)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:23 PM

141. Sure there will. I'm sure there will be untold thousands

marching in the streets demanding that the convention drop all its norms and vote Bernie as candidate by acclamation. I can almost see it now... almost

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #141)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:10 PM

147. Once again.

Another smug, arrogant, entitled comment. Every time her supporters open their traps in this way, they lose more November votes.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:00 PM

86. Unfair?

Oh, she didn't give up! Wow! How unfair of her to try to win.

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Response to OhZone (Reply #86)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:07 PM

91. But.. but.. it's UNFAIR!!!!

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:04 PM

88. Should your avatar be a Square and Compass?

I though the Masons are not political? Often a Mason has said that when you display the Square and Compass you are representing the Fraternity. Are you representing the Freemasons?

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Response to NowSam (Reply #88)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:06 PM

89. You've already asked that. No, I do not 'represent the Freemasons'.

I represent myself. Period.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #89)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:09 PM

94. Thanks for clarifying

As that symbol is universally known as a symbol of that Fraternity. So I'm sure you can understand why I was confused.

Peace.

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Response to NowSam (Reply #88)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:10 PM

105. I guess a lot are representing while driving....

And daily via their rings. My grandpa was 32nd degree Scottish Rite.

I think if anything, my understanding as a female was that a Freemason should at all times be representing the Fraternity, by their life. If that meant they could never show a political view, it'd be pretty silly.

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Response to moriah (Reply #105)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 04:36 PM

168. No, just an attempt to hassle because of my avatar.

A Freemason is expected to represent the fraternity at all times through his actions and decorum. Honesty in all aspects, concern for others, for his God and his country are all values that should be represented by all Masons. Not participating in the political process would be antithetical to Masonic values. I agree it would be pretty silly.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:22 PM

97. I think folks should march

 

and protest for whatever they feel passionate about.

Cheers to those who will march at this event, and at other events all over the world.
Action is power.

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Response to bigwillq (Reply #97)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:14 PM

125. ^this

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:09 PM

104. On the bright side, they're finally admitting that he won't be the nominee.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #104)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:17 PM

126. Does that mean they're finally to the 'acceptance' stage????

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:12 PM

108. Well if Bernie is the real deal he will put a stop to this.

Dumb and destructive.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #108)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:14 PM

139. Let's hope his good sense prevails.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:23 PM

110. If I can find a bus group going down cheap I will go.

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #110)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:09 PM

122. Me too. I think it sounds fun! Bernie rallies are a blast

 

A Bernie march sounds just as fun!

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:17 PM

127. I thought this was rather benign

 

Then I read your replies ....

Tata for good ...

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Response to Trajan (Reply #127)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:14 PM

140. OMG. Not "Tata for good". I am crushed.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:18 PM

128. Shorter Bernie People - WÀAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111

 

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:22 PM

129. They will be standing outside with their partners in crime who....

 

Will be protesting the Democratic Convention as well, republicans. Then again, it will simply be Paul supporters going back to the group they feel most comfortable with.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #129)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:11 PM

138. Pretty much nails it.!

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:41 PM

151. .

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Response to RandySF (Reply #151)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 04:54 PM

170. Made me laugh right out loud! eom

 

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Response to RandySF (Reply #151)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:18 PM

171. Got to love that diversity

Take away the Bernie signs from that photo...would you guess it is a Democratic Party Rally?

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:12 PM

162. 1968 all over again? Wouldn't be surprised.

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Response to EndElectoral (Reply #162)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:13 PM

163. Hopefully not.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:18 PM

164. Lol!

Good luck with that!

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Response to zappaman (Reply #164)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:19 PM

165. My thoughts exactly. nt

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Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:23 AM

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