HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Retired » Retired Forums » 2016 Postmortem (Forum) » If it's true that Cruz's ...

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:54 PM

 

If it's true that Cruz's wife has a copy of Hillary's Goldman Sachs speech transcript, this is

my guess of what is likely to happen: The Republicans would wait until after the Democratic
Primaries are over before they make public the transcript. It would be highly foolish of them
to publish it in the news right now, since it would be helping Sanders to win -- which is
something they desperately wish to avoid. They know their chances of losing to him are very
real.

All they need to do is to wait until some time after the Democratic Primaries, and Hillary
would have to either stop the race, or resign if she were already president. The
Republicans would be sparing themselves a great deal of trouble.

20 replies, 1819 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 20 replies Author Time Post
Reply If it's true that Cruz's wife has a copy of Hillary's Goldman Sachs speech transcript, this is (Original post)
Cal33 Apr 2016 OP
Trenzalore Apr 2016 #1
Califonz Apr 2016 #2
Ruby the Liberal Apr 2016 #4
Califonz Apr 2016 #7
Cal33 Apr 2016 #14
speaktruthtopower Apr 2016 #3
senz Apr 2016 #5
Cal33 Apr 2016 #11
HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #6
KingFlorez Apr 2016 #8
lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #9
KingFlorez Apr 2016 #10
lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #13
Cal33 Apr 2016 #15
Yupster Apr 2016 #18
Cal33 Apr 2016 #19
riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #12
rbrnmw Apr 2016 #17
Corporate666 Apr 2016 #16
Cal33 Apr 2016 #20

Response to Cal33 (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:58 PM

1. I know this sounds crazy

There are probably a few people at Goldman who support Senator Sanders. If a Goldman Sachs employee from Texas has access to the speeches I assume those people would as well.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Cal33 (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:00 PM

2. Maybe there's no transcript because there was no speech in the first place?

 

Thus the lack of even one Goldman eyewitness coming forward to give an anonymous account of what she said.

Pure payoffs for future services to be rendered.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Califonz (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:18 PM

4. Most people don't lie about money on their taxes

by claiming receipt of hundreds of thousands that they never earned. Your experience may vary on that.

As for the leaks, it doesn't gain anyone in Camp RWNJ anything to release a single syllable before the GE...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:09 PM

7. Yes, when has Hillary ever lied about anything?

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 05:43 PM

14. As far as the Republican Party is concerned, it wouldn't benefit them leaking after

 

the GE, because then Hillary's Vice-President would become President after Hillary
resigns. There would still be a Democrat as President.

But, if some individual is leaking it for personal gain, then, of course, it would be a
different story

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Cal33 (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:09 PM

3. I'm sure there's no video of them all pumping their fists and chanting "Screw the poor"

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Cal33 (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:40 PM

5. They'd rather run against Hillary than Bernie. She's easier to beat.

 

And they are sitting on a huge pile of evidence.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to senz (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:28 PM

11. If they made the transcrips public after the Democratic Primaries and before the General

 

Election, they wouldn't even have to run against Hillary at all, because she would
have to discontinue the race. Does this mean Sanders would be back in the
picture, even though he will have lost to Hillary in the Primaries? If not, there
would be no Democratic competitor at all against the Republicans.

This is getting rather complicated. I wonder if there are any existing laws on
the above possibility.

I don't think the Republicans would wait until after Hillary has become
President to publish the transcripts, because her Vice-President would then
become President, when Hillary steps down.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Cal33 (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:06 PM

6. I dunno, a release in the GE could result in the Koch-favored cross-over vote from the GOP

IMO, if such were going to be used to stop HRC such would need to be released before the primary season ends.

It doesn't look like such will happen.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Cal33 (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:13 PM

8. That woman was found on the side of the road crying

She'd be stupid to mess with the Clintons, because they could do a lot more damage to her image than a transcript ever could. She'd be on the side of the road crying again once the Clintons got through with her.

With that said, whatever was said in that speech is not even remotely what people think it is.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to KingFlorez (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:16 PM

9. What do you think it is? Bear in mind that it *is* worth the price she's paid to keep it secret. n/t

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to lumberjack_jeff (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:22 PM

10. It's highly doubtful she admitted to crimes or anything illegal in that speech

If she did someone would have come forward by now and stated that she confessed to killing Vince Foster or whatever crime people think she confessed to in the speech.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to KingFlorez (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 05:37 PM

13. Okay, if not crimes, then what is she keeping secret that is worth the grief she's gotten? n/t

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to lumberjack_jeff (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 05:56 PM

15. A wild guess: Something very embarrassing to herself (if it became public news)

 

that would cause many of her supporters to switch sides and go over to Bernie.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Cal33 (Reply #15)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:36 PM

18. I've been to plenty of these type speeches at Regional meetings

The company brings in big shots to make you feel like you work for a great company.

The big shot rains praise on the company and its leadership. That's what you get for $ 50,000 and up.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yupster (Reply #18)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:43 PM

19. That's interesting to know.

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to KingFlorez (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:53 PM

12. Heidi Cruz has suffered from chronic depression. Please delete this

 

She doesn't deserve your shameful distortion of that episode from years ago.

Shameful.



Mental illness isn't something to be belittled. I despise her husband but I really wish we'd lay off the spouses.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #12)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:28 PM

17. I agree spouses shouldn't be part of campaign fodder nt.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Cal33 (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:24 PM

16. What a bizarre viewpoint totally unsupported by any facts or information whatsoever

What exactly do you folks think is in the transcripts?

Moreover, what would be in there that would have he RESIGN as President if she wins? That is an absolutely ludicrous extrapolation.

She gave a speech to a specific audience, and the speech was obviously tailored to that audience. If transcripts were released, people would pick apart every word and sentence and take things out of context to attack her. There is literally NOTHING for her to gain by releasing them. People who won't vote for her on the presumption that there's something bad in there are no different than people who won't vote for BS on the presumption that he cheated on prior years taxes. There's just nothing to support the allegation.

The only thing that could be in the transcripts that would force her to resign at the dem candidate or (even more ridiculously) to resign as the President would be incontrovertible proof that the committed at least one or more felonies.

And if people think she stood up in front of a room of bankers to give a rah-rah speech and started confessing to high crimes, they have totally lost the plot.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Corporate666 (Reply #16)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:51 PM

20. I think you could read Yupster's post #18 above.

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread