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qdouble

(891 posts)
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:05 AM Apr 2016

What has Bernie Sanders done in his long career to suggest he could start a revolution?

As far as I'm aware, Bernie Sanders is not responsible for pushing through any revolutionary change while in the senate/congress/mayor. Nor has he shown an ability to get major groups to rally behind him. He also isn't energizing any revolutionary amount of political activism or voter turnout from his supporters.

What convinces Bernie supporters that he has what it takes to deliver on even half of his campaign promises given the fact that he's running for president and not King, and won't be able to achieve many of his promises without huge support in the senate, house and state governments? What convinces you that he can be an agent of such revolutionary change?

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What has Bernie Sanders done in his long career to suggest he could start a revolution? (Original Post) qdouble Apr 2016 OP
Well, 15 bucks per hour, it's like this, Bernie convinced us. Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #1
One article stated it went as high as $20/hr. JimDandy Apr 2016 #10
Huh? AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #2
I understand what a revolution is.... qdouble Apr 2016 #13
It's a revolution in thinking AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #14
What policy will he pass through the other branches of government that will accomplish this? qdouble Apr 2016 #28
What color will the pen be when one writes a novel? Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #57
The don't conflate it with a cult of personality. Orsino Apr 2016 #67
Bernies run is the most impressive thing I've ever seen Csainvestor Apr 2016 #3
this isn't necessarily a pro Hillary post qdouble Apr 2016 #16
This! Scuba Apr 2016 #64
Because Bernie said so. NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #4
Thank you for that fact filled, detailed solid rant AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #18
I 2nd that berniepdx420 Apr 2016 #32
It wasn't a rant. NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #34
No, it was an opinion Amaril Apr 2016 #71
Thank your for your fact filled detailed response... sheshe2 Apr 2016 #60
lol... qdouble Apr 2016 #19
I understand that. NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #40
Haven't you squeezed your tube of projection dry yet? dchill Apr 2016 #35
From the person who supports, no we can't. Or maybe next year or so. insta8er Apr 2016 #39
The "no, we can't" meme ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #42
You could try the gender card that your team created, or insta8er Apr 2016 #45
You could try staying on topic. n/t NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #46
Why because you call me out on a "right wing" meme..I can't call insta8er Apr 2016 #49
Nice word salad. NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #51
You win! So much more intelligent.. insta8er Apr 2016 #52
What ev. n/t NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #53
Better next year or so than never under "I don't know" Sanders uponit7771 Apr 2016 #70
Don't forget no math either, there's an OP about this uponit7771 Apr 2016 #69
Another paid troll to put on my ignore list? Tiggeroshii Apr 2016 #5
Looks to me as if a movement is underway! oldandhappy Apr 2016 #6
I'm not knocking what Bernie is trying to accomplish at all... qdouble Apr 2016 #20
Awwww you are such a cute little guy! Marrah_G Apr 2016 #7
Because if you look at each position... basselope Apr 2016 #8
I'm not convinced that Hillary and Obama don't want single player qdouble Apr 2016 #21
Hmmmm Old Codger Apr 2016 #29
except you don't change our political reality by electing one person nt forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #82
No we can't because I'm beholden to those special insta8er Apr 2016 #41
Then why take it "OFF THE TABLE"??? basselope Apr 2016 #77
It all depends on the support and majorities in congress... qdouble Apr 2016 #84
No, having a goal doesn't depend on that at all. basselope Apr 2016 #85
How About 40 Years Of Advocacy - A Consistent Message And Theme From The Beginning cantbeserious Apr 2016 #9
I'm not knocking that... qdouble Apr 2016 #22
Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently cantbeserious Apr 2016 #24
He cannot by himself, if you would have listened to one of his stump insta8er Apr 2016 #43
Ignore the foolish post, everyone. Maedhros Apr 2016 #11
We are the revolution..Bernie has said it a thousand times berniepdx420 Apr 2016 #12
Too bad the "revolutionists" ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #44
or just maybe.. something else happened... berniepdx420 Apr 2016 #66
Maybe the better question Urchin Apr 2016 #15
I'll give you that Bernie may be more consistent that hillary and not cater to lobbyists but... qdouble Apr 2016 #26
But at least he will try, and in trying will start negotiations with Repubs way further back GreenPartyVoter Apr 2016 #76
He has done more for Ameriocan working families... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #17
This isn't about Hillary... qdouble Apr 2016 #27
At least Bernie doesn't promise an easy fight.. Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #38
Then read my post at #47 snowy owl Apr 2016 #48
I can think of a few ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #23
Yep. ucrdem Apr 2016 #25
Radio? I haven't heard of that one. ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #30
He's been a staple on Pacifica for years. ucrdem Apr 2016 #33
haha, interesting. thanks! ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #36
He started a revolution last year. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #31
When Sanders moved to Vermont, he started a revolution The Second Stone Apr 2016 #37
So much suck about this post. Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #59
+1000000000 senz Apr 2016 #61
So much suck, and so little revolution The Second Stone Apr 2016 #79
I can't hear you through the ignore list walls. Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #81
Jeff Merkley's list - we've answered . . . Now, what's Clinton done? snowy owl Apr 2016 #47
He certainly gave one of the biggest political machines on this planet a run for their money... phleshdef Apr 2016 #50
Well this election for one. NT northernsouthern Apr 2016 #54
He started a revolution. Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #55
welcome to du and my ignore list. Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #56
He has already started a political revolution. senz Apr 2016 #58
Your sad illusion and mistake is in thinking that revolutions are started at the top. nt Bonobo Apr 2016 #62
He has started one in the Democratic Party. Downwinder Apr 2016 #63
He's been a very good person who has given a shit about the underdog. Vinca Apr 2016 #65
Patiently waited until the time was right? NCTraveler Apr 2016 #68
And how dare he, right? Amaril Apr 2016 #74
How dare he what? Run for President? Maybe you can show me where I have taken issue with that. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #78
Oh Hello Brock.. 2banon Apr 2016 #72
Ha! Bernie is trying to prevent an actual revolution. You really should help him. nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #73
Bernie is a great advocate. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #75
If he gets elected, that would be a TREMENDOUS example. thesquanderer Apr 2016 #80
Irony; "He's no revolutionary! He's hardly part of the establishment at all!" n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #83
Brockwurst! Ino Apr 2016 #86

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
10. One article stated it went as high as $20/hr.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:15 AM
Apr 2016

So if you want to feed your family, the highest she'll go is $12/hr, but if you want to praise her...

qdouble

(891 posts)
28. What policy will he pass through the other branches of government that will accomplish this?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:49 AM
Apr 2016

Or will he accomplish this revolution via executive order?

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
67. The don't conflate it with a cult of personality.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:34 AM
Apr 2016

Were you really not aware that the revolution is already under way, and that that's why Sanders finally ran for president?

You would be correct to wonder what will become of it, but to identify it with Sanders himself is a mistake.

Csainvestor

(388 posts)
3. Bernies run is the most impressive thing I've ever seen
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:09 AM
Apr 2016

No superpac, no corporate money, only small donations, the entire establishment against him and yet he is within Striking Distance.

Hillary would be nowhere without establishment backing and corporate money.

qdouble

(891 posts)
16. this isn't necessarily a pro Hillary post
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:31 AM
Apr 2016

as much as it is about just asking honestly, how would he be able to deliver on his promises. His fundraising is respectable, but that doesn't convince me that he'll be able to ram his agenda through congress at a high success rate or that all the states will be on board.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
4. Because Bernie said so.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:10 AM
Apr 2016

That's why.

His adherents require no facts, no details, no solid plans.

If Bernie says he can lead a revolution, that's the end of the discussion.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
71. No, it was an opinion
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:53 AM
Apr 2016

You have no way of knowing what each and every person who supports Bernie Sanders thinks or believes.

Stuff you actually know = fact

Stuff you made up = opinion

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
60. Thank your for your fact filled detailed response...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:12 AM
Apr 2016

As to how all this will happen.

Details please.



Details. Please respond with the facts.

qdouble

(891 posts)
19. lol...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:33 AM
Apr 2016

the funny thing is I'm not really attacking Bernie or saying he's a bad person or that his plans are bad. I'm just asking what convinces them that he can push his agenda through congress and get all the states to cosign.

That's apparently trolling here

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
40. I understand that.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:13 AM
Apr 2016

And I did not mean to imply that what you're asking is not a valid question.

But you're asking that question on a site that is comprised of 85% BS supporters, so you're not likely to get a definitive answer - any more than Bernie seems capable of giving a definitive answer himself.

For BS supporters, if Bernie says he can do something, that means he will do it. They tend to think it inexplicably odd that anyone would ask "how".

 

insta8er

(960 posts)
39. From the person who supports, no we can't. Or maybe next year or so.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:13 AM
Apr 2016

Just not now...ok? Now go and vote for me.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
42. The "no, we can't" meme ...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:16 AM
Apr 2016

... is a right-wing creation. Why am I not surprised that it is being promoted here?

 

insta8er

(960 posts)
45. You could try the gender card that your team created, or
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:22 AM
Apr 2016

Come back at me being a racist, or that Ima. Communist..,anti capitalist...all nice things your team has created to define the other side. And what did she say? Yes we can but maybe tomorrow? We are perfectly capable of coming up with that one ourselves...it's a easy shot.

 

insta8er

(960 posts)
49. Why because you call me out on a "right wing" meme..I can't call
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:29 AM
Apr 2016

You out on memes your side has been using? I see it is inconvenient to be called out yourself...but boy do you want to dish stuff out yourself. Nance vote for your Candidate, and watch her hand over your social security check to her banker friends while you are humbly calling her madam president. In the end you lose.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
6. Looks to me as if a movement is underway!
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:11 AM
Apr 2016

If it does not fit your definition of revolution, that is fine. I am happy to call it a movement.

qdouble

(891 posts)
20. I'm not knocking what Bernie is trying to accomplish at all...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:35 AM
Apr 2016

I'm just not convinced that he'll be able to accomplish half of what he's promising and I'm asking why are you convinced?

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
8. Because if you look at each position...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:13 AM
Apr 2016

He has MAJORITY public support.

However, he, like many of us, have been betrayed by a system where public support doesn't mean anything, b/c almost everyone is on the take.

The majority WANTS single payer: http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/229959-majority-still-support-single-payer-option-poll-finds But, for some reason Obama and Hillary BOTH took it off the table in the health care debate. We started from the Heritage foundation plan.

The majority WANTS free public college: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poll-most-support-making-college-free/article/2572333

But, this is a complete non-starter for Obama and Hillary, b/c it involves an FTT (something the big banks don't really want b/c they will feel the brunt of it with high volume trading).

If you go through all of Sanders major issue, he has STRONG MAJORITY support for each one of them.

Why has never led a revolution before, b/c he was a single person fighting from within a corrupt system. As President, he gets the bully pulpit. He gets to hold people accountable and with strong public support and the faith in the person at the top to follow through, he will continue to get the support that Obama lost between 2008 and 2010, after he gave away the public option.

qdouble

(891 posts)
21. I'm not convinced that Hillary and Obama don't want single player
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:39 AM
Apr 2016

I'm more convinced that they don't think that it's politically possible to push that agenda without having a super majority and to accomplish it with all the lobbying that would go into dismantling any such plan.

Free public college is not a bad idea either... but the question is what can be accomplished given our current political realities.

Most stable governments are not set up to allow for drastic change in a short period of time.... given the division of government and competing political interests. I'm not seeing much to suggest that Bernie could circumvent all of it to push drastic change given the limited power of a president.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
29. Hmmmm
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:52 AM
Apr 2016
"Free public college is not a bad idea either... but the question is what can be accomplished given our current political realities"

you don't quite get it do you? Our current political realities is what the fuck we are trying to change, she is the status quo candidate and the status quo sucks..More of the same old shit is not gonna work any more...

 

insta8er

(960 posts)
41. No we can't because I'm beholden to those special
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:15 AM
Apr 2016

Interest who have so generously contributed to my elections n campaign.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
77. Then why take it "OFF THE TABLE"???
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:02 PM
Apr 2016

You can't accomplish anything if you don't have goals and this very government did undergo drastic change in a short period of time.

We had the New Deal, which was drastic change. We even went the other way with Reaganomics.

Free public college is a goal. It won't happen overnight.. same with Single Payer. The problem with the ACA is that it takes us FURTHER from single payer. The only way to move towards it was to START IT with a public option, but that got sold out.

qdouble

(891 posts)
84. It all depends on the support and majorities in congress...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:27 PM
Apr 2016

With the current house and senate make up and with the current actions of many republican governors, I simply don't think single player would get passed if Bernie became president. Doesn't mean that I think it's a bad idea or that Hillary's plan is necessarily better than Bernie's plan... just that I think he is over promising on things that won't be delivered in the next 4-8 years and there is nothing wrong with Dems preferring what they see as being more pragmatic and accomplishable in the current political climate.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
85. No, having a goal doesn't depend on that at all.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:32 PM
Apr 2016

And Bernie isn't PROMISING Single Payer. It is part of his platform, which are GOALS.

Bernie has never said "we will have single payer, I will force it through". He has always said that was a goal.

The pragmatic and accomplishable is "nothing" with this congress and any projected one with Clinton as the nominee.

Obama HAD a majority in congress and the Senate, but took single payer off the table before the debate even started.

Worse, he dumped the public option when we could have had it via reconciliation.



cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
9. How About 40 Years Of Advocacy - A Consistent Message And Theme From The Beginning
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:14 AM
Apr 2016

Can't say the same for his opponents.

qdouble

(891 posts)
22. I'm not knocking that...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:42 AM
Apr 2016

I'm simply questioning whether or not he can deliver because I'm not convinced by his record that he can.

 

insta8er

(960 posts)
43. He cannot by himself, if you would have listened to one of his stump
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:18 AM
Apr 2016

Speeches, you would have heard him say that. This is the first step in a series of changes that need to happen. But we as Americans can't possibly take on something that bold so we stick with the corrupt system that the only benefits the rich.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
11. Ignore the foolish post, everyone.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:15 AM
Apr 2016

It's obvious that this poster a) doesn't know what he's talking about and b) doesn't care. He's just here to insult us.

/ignore list.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
12. We are the revolution..Bernie has said it a thousand times
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:23 AM
Apr 2016

The Revolution isn't him it is us .. The Emperor wears no clothes.. lot's of people see that now than did a year ago..

We are the Revolution

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
44. Too bad the "revolutionists" ...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:21 AM
Apr 2016

... can't be bothered to go out and vote for their Revolutionary Leader in numbers sufficient enough for him to win the nomination.

But maybe there was a "big game" on the night of the Revolution, and they preferred to watch that instead.

 

Urchin

(248 posts)
15. Maybe the better question
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:30 AM
Apr 2016

is, "What did Bernie Sanders not do?"

And possible answers might be "Cater to lobbyists" or "Profess to believe whatever cause would further his career"

qdouble

(891 posts)
26. I'll give you that Bernie may be more consistent that hillary and not cater to lobbyists but...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:44 AM
Apr 2016

that still doesn't mean he'd be able to push half of what he says he wants to do through congress or get states to sign on.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
76. But at least he will try, and in trying will start negotiations with Repubs way further back
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:22 AM
Apr 2016

than where we start them nowadays under Third Way thinking. That means we will still get more under a Progressive, even if it's not the dream package, and that's enough for me!

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
17. He has done more for Ameriocan working families...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:31 AM
Apr 2016

...And minorities than Hillary ever have done and ever will do....

If you trust Hillary to push for PROGRESSIVE ideals, think again.
If you have 225 000 to spare and some fat donations, the chances are she will listen to you more closely than BLM, and union workers.

And if you think that Hillary is more energiing and enthusiastic than Bernie supporters, I am looking forward to the next clip where she gathers 20 000 people in one place just to listen to her double talk.

qdouble

(891 posts)
27. This isn't about Hillary...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:46 AM
Apr 2016

it's about whether Bernie is over promising and whether his supporters believe that he can really push his agenda through the other branches of government.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
38. At least Bernie doesn't promise an easy fight..
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:12 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie says that it's a collective effort.

With Hillary, it's all about her and how she will be that knight in shining armour. She will fix everything as if she has more appeal to republicans on progressive issues than Bernie. As if she won't turn coat the minute she have suckered you into voting for her.


If you support republican lite politics, and equally empty promises from Hillary, I hope you have a job to lose when she implements TPP....
I hope you have a kid to sacrifice for her future wars.

And I hope you are happy and content with a 12 dollars an hour minimum wage as well as big favors for Wall Street. She thinks 15 dollars are too much, but think she's worth 225 000 for a half hour of cheer leading criminal bankers who defrauded you and many others.

I wonder what kind of Hillary you think will be in Office.

I wonder if she will push for a corporate agenda, or a progressive agenda. I wonder if she will bring those Super-bankers to heel like she advocated doing to black kids. I wonder if she thinks that bankers who kick out families from their homes, and keeps the bailout money for themselves to gamble with are people without conscience or empathy.
I mean, we can always debate how the bankers turned out that way, but first we must bring them to heel.

Her voting record will give you a clue.

And for the record.

She is not a leader.
She is a follower. She wants others to show transparency before she does, and puts her own bar on the level of republicans.

She said "let Bernie show his transcripts first". He did And then she moved the goalpost and included republicans as if they were ever a part of a democratic debate. She says "everybody else is doing it.!

NOT a leader!


I wonder why so many Hillary supporters are bat shit blind to her double talk while you are obsessed with minutia from Bernie, taking cheap talking points from your party apparatchik.
The other difference between Hillary and Bernie, is that he doesn't lie, and he sticks with his principles while Hillary is all over the place.
I mean, do Hillary supporters have a single independent thought and ideas


Vote Hillary! Vote more of this!




Bahing Bernie or his supporters while holding Hillary to a different standard as well as acting like she is as fragile as a china doll who can't be upset won't get you many friends among real liberals...
So stop pretending to be one....


snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
48. Then read my post at #47
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:28 AM
Apr 2016

The OP asks what he's done - not can he get what he promises now done. But past behavior often predicts future behavior. I'll put my money on Bernie.

ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
23. I can think of a few
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:42 AM
Apr 2016

He helped give legal immunity to gun manufacturers. Can't have a revolution without plenty of guns, right?

He voted for the war in Afghanistan, so he has some experience with regime change.

He successfully infiltrated a political party that he opposes, despite previously claiming that "It would be hypocritical of me to run as a Democrat because of the things I have said about the party."

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
25. Yep.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:44 AM
Apr 2016

And don't forget the long radio career devoted to bashing Dems for whatever they managed to accomplish.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
33. He's been a staple on Pacifica for years.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:05 AM
Apr 2016

A reliable bash for any show in need of the latest anti-Dem talking point or more likely the one before. That's not where I first heard of him in 92, but it's how I kept track of him over the years, and I always thought, there's got to be more to this guy than regurgitating back issues of the Nation. Turns out there isn't.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
37. When Sanders moved to Vermont, he started a revolution
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:10 AM
Apr 2016

of socialist white guys who were out of touch with each other by moving away from scary black people to Vermont where they could be right regardless of how small a group they actually were. They actually elected a socialist to the US Senate. And what followed in the years since has been ... well, nothing really. But they are worked up about it.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
47. Jeff Merkley's list - we've answered . . . Now, what's Clinton done?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:26 AM
Apr 2016
MERKLEY: Well, actually, I think that`s way off the mark. Bernie`s
comments are deeply listened to and widely respected and he has this record
of effectiveness that many people are aware of, particularly those who
served in the House. When he was mayor of Burlington, he preceded to
reshape the waterfront. He had a baseball team. He set them up as a
lovable city, as a kind of a model for the nation.

When he was in the House, out of 435 members of the House, he was known as
the king of amendments, the single House member most effective in getting
amendments past, and these were things relevant to working Americans.

And in the Senate, he has proceeded to be the leader on expanding our
federally qualified health centers, which are the front door for millions
of Americans to our health care system. And he put together a bipartisan
veterans bill that is the most important veterans bill we`ve had in years,
and he`s taken the lead and taken on chained CPI to make sure that our
seniors didn`t get shortchanged. And the list goes on. So –


AND HILLARY'S ACHIEVEMENTS ARE . . . ?


https://web.archive.org/web/20160314164825/http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/15/us/politics/bernie-sanders-amendments.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
Bernie Sanders Scored Victories for Years via Legislative Side Doors

Through wheeling and dealing, shaming and cajoling, Mr. Sanders, an independent who caucuses with Democrats, got his wish, and his favored provision was grafted incongruously onto a tough-minded Republican border security amendment and paid for by higher visa fees for some foreign travelers.

The immigration bill, opposed by House Republicans, never became law. But the jobs program amendment was classic Bernie Sanders, a self-described Democratic socialist who has spent a quarter-century in Congress working the side door, tacking on amendments to larger bills that scratch his particular policy itches, generally focused on working-class Americans, income inequality and the environment.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
50. He certainly gave one of the biggest political machines on this planet a run for their money...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:32 AM
Apr 2016

...in this very primary.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
58. He has already started a political revolution.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:50 AM
Apr 2016

He has awakened the Millennial generation and reinvigorated a lot of older people like me.

He has started a conversation that can be heard all over the nation.

He's even pushed a corporatist like Hillary to the left and radically changed her stump speech.

Furthermore, Bernie Sanders has spent his life as a strong, outspoken advocate for civil rights for ALL people.

Unlike "some" candidates, Bernie Sanders PASSIONATELY CARES about people and is not afraid to stand up for what he believes in. He is exceptional.



Vinca

(50,261 posts)
65. He's been a very good person who has given a shit about the underdog.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:47 AM
Apr 2016

The first thing he did when he was elected Mayor of Burlington was to walk door-to-door in the poor neighborhoods to ask residents what they needed to improve their lives. He puts people over money. If that's not revolutionary for a politician, I don't know what is.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
74. And how dare he, right?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:10 AM
Apr 2016

EVERYbody knows that it is Hillary's time. How dare he try to usurp when it's her turn.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
78. How dare he what? Run for President? Maybe you can show me where I have taken issue with that.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:36 PM
Apr 2016

I don't think there is such thing as a "her turn" as you do. I wish it was O'Malley's turn.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
72. Oh Hello Brock..
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:54 AM
Apr 2016

now good bye Brock. go back to your cave and see if you can come up with a more intelligent meme.. practice practice practice.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
75. Bernie is a great advocate.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:13 AM
Apr 2016

But he's not so good in getting results as indicated in his 25 year Congressional record. Three sponsored bills (co-sponsors simply add their names to the bill) - and two named Vermont post offices.

So far, his movement has depended on his considerable advocacy skills. However, the next step is organizing and growing the movement. It will be interesting to see whether he is up to this task. I hope that he is.

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