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Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:12 PM

If you're not on this list and you're celebrating Hillary, you're celebrating the demise of middle

class, poor folks, elderly, veterans, the environment, and students. The "people" on the list have given large sums of money to Hillary Clinton for her campaign. Is there anyone who can possibly be taken serious that thinks these "people" aren't expecting something, or have already been promised something in return?
Why are there so many laws in Congress banning them from gifts, food, and trips? If no one thought these things were corrupting, why aren't they allowed for members of Congress? The fact is these gifts are corrupting, they are offered as a quid pro quo and everyone knows it.

If Hillary really wanted to be transparent she would show us what she promised these "people" by releasing the transcripts. She won't do that, because she knows it would spell the end of her campaign.

Edit to include link to donor list:
https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=Career

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Reply If you're not on this list and you're celebrating Hillary, you're celebrating the demise of middle (Original post)
onecaliberal Apr 2016 OP
randome Apr 2016 #1
Squinch Apr 2016 #2
Hekate Apr 2016 #32
MADem Apr 2016 #3
Seeinghope Apr 2016 #5
MADem Apr 2016 #6
Seeinghope Apr 2016 #8
MADem Apr 2016 #9
AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #24
MADem Apr 2016 #36
Metric System Apr 2016 #4
Seeinghope Apr 2016 #7
dlwickham Apr 2016 #12
Seeinghope Apr 2016 #18
nolawarlock Apr 2016 #13
panader0 Apr 2016 #15
nolawarlock Apr 2016 #19
panader0 Apr 2016 #20
nolawarlock Apr 2016 #22
panader0 Apr 2016 #26
nolawarlock Apr 2016 #27
hfojvt Apr 2016 #34
MADem Apr 2016 #37
Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #46
MADem Apr 2016 #48
sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #10
dlwickham Apr 2016 #11
CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #14
LexVegas Apr 2016 #16
TowneshipRebellion Apr 2016 #23
COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #30
jack_krass Apr 2016 #35
MADem Apr 2016 #38
Gman Apr 2016 #17
kstewart33 Apr 2016 #21
Sheepshank Apr 2016 #25
stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #28
bjo59 Apr 2016 #29
COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #31
hfojvt Apr 2016 #33
ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #39
onecaliberal Apr 2016 #41
ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #42
onecaliberal Apr 2016 #44
ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #45
emsimon33 Apr 2016 #40
SidDithers Apr 2016 #43
LanternWaste Apr 2016 #47

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:13 PM

1. Wrong.

 

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-most-important-poll-you-didn-t-see

Take all that together and you come away with pretty clear evidence that over the course of the Democratic primary young voters have become more attached to progressive politics and the Democratic party. One read of this is that the primary process itself - as divisive as it has sometimes seemed - has deepened young voters' identification with the Democratic party.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:13 PM

2. Do tell us what actions she has taken that prove your claims of corruption. Where are the quid pro

quos?

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Response to Squinch (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:39 PM

32. They got nothin' -- but they sure are happy to carry ...

... RW buckets of slime to spread around on Democrats.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:14 PM

3. Still waiting on those Tax ReturnS...with the schedules.

So yeah, whatever.

I'm a middle class veteran getting on in years, so 'whatever' on that, too.

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Response to MADem (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:20 PM

5. He released his 2014 tax return now she can release one of her Goldman Sachs speeches

 

He said on the debate that he would release that tax return the next day and that she should release the transcript from her Goldman Sachs transcript. He followed them then she side-stepped and said that the Republicans had to release .....whatever. WHAT is in those transcripts that she is so scared about???????

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Response to Seeinghope (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:22 PM

6. There's at least one already up on YT. He needs to do better....!

Of course, it might not matter after tonight.

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Response to MADem (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:58 PM

8. It's too bad that with her record people still support her. So I guess all of us will have to

 

Suffer because of some really horrible decisions made. Thanks for for the contribution to propping up Wall Street, the corporations, incremental change on climate change, increased military actions and plenty of gridlock and scandals tying up this country from moving forward. It is on every single one of you who voted for Hillary Clinton, I guarantee it.......that is if she makes it to the White House and not to court for the e-mail issues.

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Response to Seeinghope (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:00 PM

9. No it is not. In fact, it's a great thing for America that she has won the most votes thus far.

She's ready on Day 1. She will be a wonderful POTUS, and such a great example to young girls coming up.

Anything is possible--they won't have to be afraid to dream!

CBS just called MD for HRC! One down.....!

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Response to MADem (Reply #9)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:12 PM

24. What will she do about too big to fail banks?

 

Or private prisons?

You 'support' her so you should know....

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #24)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:04 AM

36. The same thing Bernie would do.

You do realize that Presidents don't "make law?"

I don't think you do.

There's this thing called Congress, you see....

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:16 PM

4. Big flaw in your theory: Middle class and and poor folks have voted for Hillary. Her coalition of

voters IS the Democratic party base.

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Response to Metric System (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:48 PM

7. They are voting on blind faith and hope.

 

They believe in the 1992 Clintons. Then there is the combination of women voting for her because she has received an extraordinary amount of publicity, an enormous amount of advantage with the DNC, because she is a woman, because she is a longtime Democrat and Bernie Sanders just became a Democrat and there might be some prejudice due to Bernie Sanders being Jewish. There are more things which I won't go into but it isn't just one thing there are a combination of things going on here.

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Response to Seeinghope (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:06 PM

12. sexist much?

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #12)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:43 PM

18. Of all of the things that I listed, YOU pick out the sexist? Part? Which makes YOU sexist.

 

Obviously, because nothing else that I mentioned mattered to you. LOL!!!!

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Response to Metric System (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:07 PM

13. Yep!

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Response to nolawarlock (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:29 PM

15. You should be ashamed for taking that quote out of context.

How much did that earn you?
Seriously, read, and post Bernie's entire quote--an entirely different meaning.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #15)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:54 PM

19. Earn me?

Is that like the new epithet of the moment? You're like the 50th person to accuse me of being a paid shill. Whatevs.

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Response to nolawarlock (Reply #19)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:03 PM

20. Please read the entire quote and apologize.

Wow! 600 posts in 40 days. I rest my case....

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Response to panader0 (Reply #20)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:10 PM

22. I did read the entire quote ...

... in fact, if you click the banner, it will take you to a page on Snopes.com that analyzes the quote and its context.

I don't owe or anyone else a thing, much less an apology.

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Response to nolawarlock (Reply #22)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:15 PM

26. CaChing!!

By the word or by the post?

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Response to panader0 (Reply #26)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:17 PM

27. hahahahah

You make me laugh. Not only did I not get paid by the word or the post, I didn't get paid for the time I spent in Photoshop making my lovely sig file. I did finally learn how to make an animated gif from within the application though.

On some level, it makes me happy that you think I'm paid to post because the idea of that has got to bern you that much more.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #20)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:54 PM

34. not much of a case

600/40 is only 15 posts a day. That's hardly record setting, particularly in the heat of a primary. My twelve year average is over 8 posts a day, and that includes some breaks.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #20)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:07 AM

37. Look who's talking! What a rude comment!!!

Look how many posts you've thrown up in the last 90 days:

About panader0
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Member since: Sun Sep 11, 2005, 06:53 PM
Number of posts: 13,981
Number of posts, last 90 days: 876
Favorite forum: General Discussion: Primaries, 591 posts in the last 90 days (67% of total posts)
Favorite group: Bernie Sanders, 55 posts in the last 90 days (6% of total posts)
Last post: Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:15 PM


You're basically accusing this person of being a paid disruptor. That's a pretty rude and uncivil thing to do. You probably should produce evidence of your claim or apologize.

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Response to MADem (Reply #37)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:35 PM

46. panaderO has been here since 2005, not since 6 weeks ago and has no transparency page

 

as opposed to nolawarlock who has 6 items or one for each week of DU residency, a residency comprised of smears and insults and devoid of any positive issue base advocacy.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=331871&sub=trans

Rude is rude. nolawarlock is rude and nothing but.


Your transparency page is just as long but not quite as nasty and also, you have been here for ages and actually engage to some degree.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=152137&sub=trans

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #46)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:57 PM

48. Well, nolawarlock isn't hiding behind an anonymous profile--if you bothered to look

you'd see that. I don't think nolawarlock is rude at all. If "rude" means "Doesn't support the candidate you prefer" you might have a point, but it doesn't mean that.

People swarming a newcomer and making PAID TROLL/Brock Brigade accusations, over and over again? That's some sick shit. THAT could be accurately described as "rude." Aside from the fact that it's a matter for juries or MIRT or the admins, not the "Kill the Pig" Lord of the Flies swarming of posters here on DU, it's an uncivil thing to do--but since "majority rules" here (and hopefully won't for much longer) no one will get called for those kinds of repeated insults.

As for my transparency page, I wear that focker PROUDLY. It is quite obvious from perusing my "HIDES" that they are entirely partisan in nature, owing to who I support, not what I said. If a Bernie supporter said the equivalent, it would be High Fives and Off to the Greatest Page.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:01 PM

10. After watching the video about the scanners,

which was brought to DU recently, I believe
that primaries as well as elections are fake.

It gives the ordinary citizen the idea that s/he
have a voice; but actually the party apparatus
determines the winner.

I'll vote, but don't think anymore that it matters.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:05 PM

11. what utter bullshit

drama queen

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:07 PM

14. #butshesagirl

 

I can relate, I might have looked the other way at some flaws when Obama was running because I wanted to live to see a black man in the white house, much more than I did a woman (which I also want).

This time around, however, with so many negatives, it's clear to me that a lot of the support Hillary get is about her sex, and the desire to see a woman POTUS.

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Response to CentralCoaster (Reply #14)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:31 PM

16. She's not a fucking girl. This is why your guy is getting his ass beat.

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #16)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:11 PM

23. We'll see what happens in November.

 

She will probably be elected as the most unpopular candidate in recent history and will probably responsible for another sick war. I believed in Obama but he stabbed us all in the back with his trade agreements, warmongering and corporate welfare. There is no pretense of change with HRC. She is running as a moderate corporatist who does things behind closed doors she is afraid to discuss in the open. We will not accept more of this. The people want food, housing, shelter, jobs and a real democracy. If the elites will not relinquish their control then we will just take it.

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Response to TowneshipRebellion (Reply #23)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:34 PM

30. More self-important posturing. "We will just take it".

That's nice. Now go play while the grownups talk..

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #16)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:57 PM

35. "Shes not a fucking girl"

 

She's not? Well what the fuck is she then?

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:09 AM

38. The masks are coming off, aren't they? It's incredible--and it's what people were saying way back

when.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:36 PM

17. Wrong

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:09 PM

21. That's your opinion and you are welcome to it.

As is the tendency on this forum, you are proclaiming what we are celebrating which is incredibly arrogant and absurd.

We are celebrating the overwhelming victory of the woman we strongly support as president. It is a wonderful night for Hillary Clinton and we are thrilled and grateful for it.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:13 PM

25. And yet again, the losing minority lashes out with insults against the majority

 

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:18 PM

28. umadbro?

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:24 PM

29. They'll all see this clearly in time, after it's too late.

In a usual election, they could then pretend that they had no choice or that they had no idea what was in store for them. Unfortunately, Bernie's candidacy prevents those reactions. Every single person who voted for Hillary Clinton will have done it in full knowledge of what they were doing and in full knowledge that they had a choice.

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Response to bjo59 (Reply #29)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:36 PM

31. You just wait! You'll see! I really mean it this time!

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:44 PM

33. I am celebrating the survival of the Democratic Party

Which is kinda important for most of those groups. Although I am not sure why "students" is a group. Unless you are Fred Cassidy that's not really a permanent status. Even I only spent seven years in post secondary education.

Whatta waste of time and money.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:28 AM

39. Three companies that I have worked for are on that list. You have a problem with that?

I'm proud that those companies employ enough well paid liberals that they show up on the top 20 list of donors. I sure wish there was a quid pro quo, but having a democrat nominate the next two or three supreme court justices is enough for me.

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Response to ContinentalOp (Reply #39)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:42 AM

41. Yes, I have a huge problem with the fact that they BUY influence that working people

Cannot afford, I don't care if you don't like it, that's your problem. Greed isn't a virtue in my book.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #41)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:43 AM

42. The people making those donations are individual working people who are employed by those companies.

They're not buying any influence and operating out of greed. You have a problem with the University of California?

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Response to ContinentalOp (Reply #42)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:17 PM

44. Oh spare me. Independents ARE NOT allowed to vote in primaries, so how in the hell do they

decide anything? They're not even allowed a voice in this primary for the most part, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but they vote in the general, and they sure as shit won't vote for Hillary. And yes, I have a problem with the university of California, if you knew anything about it, you probably would too.

Edit to add: These people are NOT donating out of the kindness of their hearts, they ARE donating so their corporation can peddle influence. In a lot of cases, their jobs depend on it. #Blkd

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #44)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:27 PM

45. lol ok

Where did I say anything about independents? What's your problem with the UC system? The number there represents individual donations from employees, many of whom are professors and academics. I'm happy that those are some of the people funding our candidate and not defense contractors or oil companies.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:31 AM

40. K&R

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:44 AM

43. Awwwww...



Sid

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:54 PM

47. Yours was the longest bumper sticker I've ever read.

Yours was the longest bumper sticker I've ever read.

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