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pnwmom

(108,960 posts)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:33 AM Apr 2016

Snopes: Sanders campaign has discounted the rumors of FB hacking

attacking Sanders groups.

Is there any limit to the paranoia around Hillary? I mean, Facebook. Seriously?


http://www.snopes.com/2016/04/26/bernie-sanders-facebook-groups-controversy/

On 26 April 2016, digital and social media manager for the Sanders campaign Aiden King addressed the rumors on the campaign's official Slack channel:

All of the groups are back up and it wasn't just Bernie groups.

Facebook hasn't released a public statement but they had a bug and it closed a ton of facebook groups. Our supporters are just more vocal so the internet blew up with "Bernie groups being shut down" rather than "Facebook groups are being shut down."

King claimed a number of groups were affected by a Facebook-side glitch, not solely Sanders groups. However, Facebook didn't address the bug in question officially, leading many to believe the outages were politically motivated and not related to malfunctioning technology. Facebook hasn't confirmed King's assertion, nor did he disclose how he learned of the purported bug.
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Snopes: Sanders campaign has discounted the rumors of FB hacking (Original Post) pnwmom Apr 2016 OP
uh oh, now you've done it. another balloon goes pfffffft! nt msongs Apr 2016 #1
it's all a game to some GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #36
I tried to urge people not to jump to conclusions... moriah Apr 2016 #2
The next one will be along any moment. betsuni Apr 2016 #3
He wrote the book Blinded by the Right, apologizing for his role in attacking Anita Hill pnwmom Apr 2016 #4
Oh, okay, I've read "Blinded by the Right." betsuni Apr 2016 #7
Right. He switched sides before he wrote that book. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #15
I'm still on the fence about him character-wise, but... moriah Apr 2016 #21
Remember the McMartin Preschool trial? ucrdem Apr 2016 #5
It goes all the way back to the Salem witch trials. pnwmom Apr 2016 #6
The idea that a widely-publicized outreach initiative would launch a porn attack on FB is so inane ucrdem Apr 2016 #24
Yeah, ok. "Facebook hasn't confirmed King's assertion, nilram Apr 2016 #8
What possible interest would the Sanders campaign have in discounting the rumors pnwmom Apr 2016 #9
I look forward to Facebook's statement. nilram Apr 2016 #11
What possible insight would the Sanders campaign have in making this determination? frylock Apr 2016 #27
I see people here appeal to Sanders veracity all the time. And use it to support pnwmom Apr 2016 #30
On topics of which he is knowlegable. frylock Apr 2016 #32
yet strangley no Hillary groups were closed down and we haven't heard anything about these 'other' azurnoir Apr 2016 #10
And how do you know that? Just because they didn't rise up in hysterical fury? n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #12
Then what other groups were shut down? why aren't they being named azurnoir Apr 2016 #13
Aiden King of the Sanders campaign says it affected other groups. Are you calling him a liar? pnwmom Apr 2016 #14
why are you deflecting? King is a sub-reddit moderator nothing more who has raised money for Sanders azurnoir Apr 2016 #16
I'm not deflecting, you are. There is no evidence that Sanders groups were singled out. pnwmom Apr 2016 #17
there's no evidence of any other group being shut down save the word of of a sub reddit moderator azurnoir Apr 2016 #18
He's a lot more than that. pnwmom Apr 2016 #19
ya he raised money for Sanders I already said but he's not a campaign official azurnoir Apr 2016 #20
Snopes disagrees with you. I'll accept Snopes's opinion on that. pnwmom Apr 2016 #22
And you keep circling back to Aiden King's statement. frylock Apr 2016 #28
I don't know. But I accept that he represents Sanders and the campaign believes that to be true. pnwmom Apr 2016 #29
So see no reason to believe otherwise despite the screenshots.. frylock Apr 2016 #31
I guess Brock's magical $1 million can even buy off Snopes! ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #23
K&R lamp_shade Apr 2016 #25
A lot of jumping to conclusions and with CT near the top of reasoning it prevents Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #26
K&R mcar Apr 2016 #33
You bolded the wrong part btw... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #34
Good information nolawarlock Apr 2016 #35

betsuni

(25,384 posts)
3. The next one will be along any moment.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:56 AM
Apr 2016

I still don't know who David Brock is and why people keep bringing up his name like he has special powers (a warlock? minor deity?) and I DON'T CARE.

pnwmom

(108,960 posts)
4. He wrote the book Blinded by the Right, apologizing for his role in attacking Anita Hill
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:02 AM
Apr 2016

in the Clarence Thomas hearings.

betsuni

(25,384 posts)
7. Oh, okay, I've read "Blinded by the Right."
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:19 AM
Apr 2016

I thought it must be someone else because I've seen him described as a Republican. Makes sense. The way the same people call Clinton a "Goldwater Girl."

moriah

(8,311 posts)
21. I'm still on the fence about him character-wise, but...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:24 AM
Apr 2016

.... if anyone knows GOP dirty tricks, I guess he's the guy....

I am optimistic that anyone can change and realize they're wrong. I hope he's sincere. But I do understand why some wonder about motivations of turncoats.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
5. Remember the McMartin Preschool trial?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:02 AM
Apr 2016

That's what this is starting to remind me of. It's really sad to see the lengths some will take their self-delusions.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
24. The idea that a widely-publicized outreach initiative would launch a porn attack on FB is so inane
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:45 AM
Apr 2016

not to mention criminal if it involved minors and yet a good portion of posters seem firmly convinced that such a thing occurred because some unknown person posted a screenshot of some unknown person's wisecrack on some unknown person's FB page.



We're talking seriously out of touch.

nilram

(2,886 posts)
8. Yeah, ok. "Facebook hasn't confirmed King's assertion,
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:40 AM
Apr 2016

nor did he disclose how he learned of the purported bug."

pnwmom

(108,960 posts)
9. What possible interest would the Sanders campaign have in discounting the rumors
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:43 AM
Apr 2016

that people had attacked the Sanders' groups, except for being truthful?

frylock

(34,825 posts)
27. What possible insight would the Sanders campaign have in making this determination?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:33 PM
Apr 2016

We don't go in for appeals to authority. That's your team.

pnwmom

(108,960 posts)
30. I see people here appeal to Sanders veracity all the time. And use it to support
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:08 PM
Apr 2016

whatever he has said.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
10. yet strangley no Hillary groups were closed down and we haven't heard anything about these 'other'
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:45 AM
Apr 2016

groups either-curious that

pnwmom

(108,960 posts)
14. Aiden King of the Sanders campaign says it affected other groups. Are you calling him a liar?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:03 AM
Apr 2016

And what possible motivation could he have for lying about that?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
16. why are you deflecting? King is a sub-reddit moderator nothing more who has raised money for Sanders
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:11 AM
Apr 2016

not to mention the Sanders campaign wanted to move on from Brock brokered mudslinging that is going on to stuff like issues

pnwmom

(108,960 posts)
17. I'm not deflecting, you are. There is no evidence that Sanders groups were singled out.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:18 AM
Apr 2016

Just a bunch of semi-hysterical posts.

As if FACEBOOK, of all places, is critical to Bernie's success. If it was, no wonder he's been losing.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
18. there's no evidence of any other group being shut down save the word of of a sub reddit moderator
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:19 AM
Apr 2016

pnwmom

(108,960 posts)
22. Snopes disagrees with you. I'll accept Snopes's opinion on that.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:04 AM
Apr 2016
http://www.snopes.com/2016/04/26/bernie-sanders-facebook-groups-controversy/

On 26 April 2016, digital and social media manager for the Sanders campaign Aiden King addressed the rumors on the campaign's official Slack channel.

pnwmom

(108,960 posts)
29. I don't know. But I accept that he represents Sanders and the campaign believes that to be true.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:07 PM
Apr 2016

And I see no reason to believe otherwise, except for paranoia.

Facebook. We're talking about Facebook. Do you really think Facebook was a key piece of Bernie's campaign? What a stupid waste of resources taking down a few sites on FB would be.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
31. So see no reason to believe otherwise despite the screenshots..
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:04 PM
Apr 2016

of people bragging about doing it?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
26. A lot of jumping to conclusions and with CT near the top of reasoning it prevents
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:02 AM
Apr 2016

Reasonable conclusion. Cognitive dissonance at its best.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
34. You bolded the wrong part btw...
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:07 AM
Apr 2016

...very selective...

leading many to believe the outages were politically motivated and not related to malfunctioning technology. Facebook hasn't confirmed King's assertion, nor did he disclose how he learned of the purported bug.


FB basically said it was related to the flagging process, which is tech for they don't have a good enough bot set up to identify people abusing the system to flag people on this scale...it is called PR.

Also these is a photo of the actual guy doing it, taken by the HRC group memeber and then posting it on the HRC group...

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
35. Good information
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:09 AM
Apr 2016

You wrote: "FB basically said it was related to the flagging process, which is tech for they don't have a good enough bot set up to identify people abusing the system to flag people on this scale"

Sounds like our jury system here.

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