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Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:26 AM

At this point, shouldn't BS and his supporters be more focused on getting Dems elected to congress

Now that his run for the nomination is all but over, wouldn't a better use of his time and resources be deployed to see that other like-minded Dems get elected to federal and state offices?

Just a thought.

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Reply At this point, shouldn't BS and his supporters be more focused on getting Dems elected to congress (Original post)
Yavin4 Apr 2016 OP
arcane1 Apr 2016 #1
casperthegm Apr 2016 #4
brooklynite Apr 2016 #5
think Apr 2016 #14
brooklynite Apr 2016 #24
tonyt53 Apr 2016 #26
PyaarRevolution Apr 2016 #37
brooklynite Apr 2016 #42
aurelius2112 Apr 2016 #57
think Apr 2016 #38
1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #31
MineralMan Apr 2016 #9
glowing Apr 2016 #27
MineralMan Apr 2016 #33
angstlessk Apr 2016 #43
JaneyVee Apr 2016 #2
Autumn Apr 2016 #3
MineralMan Apr 2016 #6
think Apr 2016 #16
NurseJackie Apr 2016 #7
MillennialDem Apr 2016 #8
Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #44
MillennialDem Apr 2016 #48
raging moderate Apr 2016 #10
artislife Apr 2016 #11
Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #12
Blue_Adept Apr 2016 #13
LWolf Apr 2016 #15
dana_b Apr 2016 #17
G_j Apr 2016 #18
lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #19
NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #20
NurseJackie Apr 2016 #30
Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #34
NurseJackie Apr 2016 #36
lanlady Apr 2016 #50
ibegurpard Apr 2016 #21
farleftlib Apr 2016 #49
coyote Apr 2016 #63
Orsino Apr 2016 #22
tonyt53 Apr 2016 #23
Rebkeh Apr 2016 #29
ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #40
rhett o rick Apr 2016 #47
IamMab Apr 2016 #25
2banon Apr 2016 #55
KPN Apr 2016 #28
FarPoint Apr 2016 #32
Bjornsdotter Apr 2016 #35
boomer55 Apr 2016 #39
ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #41
aurelius2112 Apr 2016 #58
Codeine Apr 2016 #45
rhett o rick Apr 2016 #46
aurelius2112 Apr 2016 #59
rhett o rick Apr 2016 #60
morningfog Apr 2016 #51
guillaumeb Apr 2016 #52
2banon Apr 2016 #53
runaway hero Apr 2016 #54
The Second Stone Apr 2016 #56
Scuba Apr 2016 #61
Adrahil Apr 2016 #62
Live and Learn Apr 2016 #64

Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:27 AM

1. I am. That's why I'm donating every month to Tim Canova.

 

Putting my money on actual progressives

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:28 AM

4. +1

Outstanding.

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:28 AM

5. All -one- of them?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:35 AM

14. If you don't mind sharing are you supporting Tim Canova?

 

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Response to think (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:51 AM

24. No - for the same reason I didn't support Donna Edwards...

A candidate running for a safe Democratic seat won't receive my money when there are dozens of competitive seats we can shift from the Republicans. I'm currently invested in 22 House and Senate races (plus a mix of Statehouse contests) where we have a chance of pickups. More (including possibly Zephyr Teachout) when their Primaries are over.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #24)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:56 AM

26. I'm putting mine on Senate seats only

 

I'm putting mine on nine Senate seats. I look at it as one step at a time.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #24)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:20 AM

37. He's running against DWS.

I think it's worth donating and phonebanking to help him get her thrown out considering the damage she's done to the Democratic party. She acts more like the Dean of a college then the head of the DNC.

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Response to PyaarRevolution (Reply #37)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:39 AM

42. Do you actually know what the head of the DNC does?

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Response to PyaarRevolution (Reply #37)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:24 PM

57. ClintonPuppet to be more precise

 

I'm with you.

Let me know how I can help.

Peace!

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #24)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:22 AM

38. Thanks. Glad to see your supporting Teachout.

 

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:07 AM

31. Now, now ... There are far more than that. And, we should not discourage Bernie supporters from ...

 

identifying and supporting them.

But we probably should caution them that getting transformational candidates elected, generally, takes more than one election cycle and requires a lot of off-season work.

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:30 AM

9. And how's he doing in the polls?

I haven't seen any for that FL district.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:59 AM

27. FL primaries are in August...

 

I think because it's DINO Debbie's seat and because she's the DNC, there's been som new about the race even outside of her district. It will be interesting to see how he does against her? She's Jewish and she's in a primarily Jewish district. It's a safe Dem district.

In order for him to win, he would have to do massive voter registration for new voters and fairly quickly, plus make sure the newbies get out to vote. Most of the older retirees already get a ballot in the mail and work relatively easily for their vote.

I don't think he can upset her. I may be wrong, but her election numbers are targeted for strength and she's her voters are fairly well off. If would take grandchildren to change their minds on their votes for Debbie... In my opinion.

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Response to glowing (Reply #27)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:07 AM

33. That's pretty much what I'm thinking.

I can't see her being unseated in that district, really.

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:39 AM

43. I am doing the same ...get rid of debbie!

Would be worth every dollar!

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:27 AM

2. Yes, of course.

 

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:27 AM

3. No problem Hill will pull them in on her coat tails.

Of course we are working on getting other people elected.

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:29 AM

6. Congress? What's that? Who cares about Congress?

The House and Senate just do whatever the President tells them to do, right?

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:36 AM

16. Yes. The Hillary Victory Fund will shine the way....

 

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:29 AM

7. You'd think so! Seems logical to me ...

... apparently they disagree and have totally different priorities.

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:29 AM

8. I'll certainly be voting for Feingold. But not Hillary.

 

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Response to MillennialDem (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:42 AM

44. Well Sen. Feingold

will be so effective under President Trump. He can vote for the five SCOTUS nominees President Trump is likely to have the opportunity to appoint.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #44)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 01:28 PM

48. Maybe Hillary could give a reason to vote for her besides "not Trump" and adopt some

 

of Bernie's positions?

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:30 AM

10. We are, and we have been.

We can do several things simultaneously.

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:32 AM

11. We just won't be voting for Dinos.

 

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:33 AM

12. We always do that, which is why everyone who represents me at any level is Democratic

 

So I do support outside my own State but of course I can't do nearly what residents of those States can do themselves. Which prompts the question, what State and district is your own, Yavin4?

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:33 AM

13. Keyboard warriors have better things to do

and polls to click!

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:36 AM

15. Who said they aren't focused on that?

I know I am.

Of course, the primaries are not over. I've got almost a month until mine. Sanders has my support all the way to the convention, and I will cast my vote for him with pleasure and determination.

Meanwhile, I am also supporting other non-neo-liberal candidates, and deciding whom to give my vote for Senator in my primary. Merkley gets my vote every time, but he's not up this year. Wyden is, he's got 2 primary opponents, and one of my votes will go there.

The rest getting my support are outside my own state. Canova, for one.

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:36 AM

17. Gee, thanks for telling us what YOU think we should be doing but

nah - we will work on what we want. And his run is NOT over.

See you at the convention!!

#StillSanders

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:37 AM

18. and who says they aren't? nt

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:38 AM

19. Depends on the Democrat.

 

I'm hoping that progressives challenge incumbents across the country, and that the state parties are controlled by people who consider this a healthy activity.

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:40 AM

20. Problem is, just slapping a "D" behind your name doesn't automatically mean

 

Democrats will support you.

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #20)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:03 AM

30. Take Bernie Sanders, for instance.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #30)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:11 AM

34. Touché

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Response to Bobbie Jo (Reply #34)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:14 AM

36. :-)

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #30)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:04 PM

50. +1

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:41 AM

21. just a thought

Concentrate on getting your influence-peddling, warmongering, 3rd-way presidential candidate elected and don't worry about informing others what they should be doing. She's going to need all the help she can get and then some.

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #21)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 01:38 PM

49. +1

 

That's the threadwinner right there!

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #21)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:34 AM

63. Bravo!!!

 

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:44 AM

22. More than what?

More than you see posted to the Primaries group? More than you see on DU?

People working on the primary campaign will of course be faced on helping their candidate win the primary--and less on taking advice from people not involved.

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:48 AM

23. I really do not think he or his followers really understand

 

Since Bernie has done nothing to help any Democrats get elected to Senate seats, and without a Democrat majority there, nothing will get done, either is is naive, or just doesn't care. He has helped three people running for House seats and that is it. the House will likely not change to Democrat control until 2022, the first election after the 2020 census. This very reason is why Bernie will never get any superdelegates to switch and he may even lose some of that 42 that he has. To be accepted by the team, you have to be a team player.

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Response to tonyt53 (Reply #23)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:02 AM

29. We understand, we just have different goals

It's not about the party, it's about the people. When we can trust the party, we'll be there.

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Response to Rebkeh (Reply #29)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:32 AM

40. This.

 

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Response to tonyt53 (Reply #23)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:41 PM

47. And while you support the big banks because you like their wealth, we are

 

fighting for those suffering. Those that you seem to be able to overlook or convince yourself that they will trickle on the 99%.

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:54 AM

25. It depends on their tactics. The stuff they tried in the primary, which didn't even work there...

 

...would never fly in local elections. People will not put up with local and state candidates that act like Bernie Bros.

I think that if they believe that Bernie's ideas are so popular and have so much support, they should be fielding progressive candidates in economically-depressed Republican districts. Give those people another option, and maybe, just maybe, the message will be received well and those voters will oust their Republican in favor of a progressive.

But if their plan is just to start primarying sitting Democrats, which we saw fail once before with the Tea Party, then I just don't think those people are serious about anything other than their own aggrandizement.

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Response to IamMab (Reply #25)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:15 PM

55. Bernie Bros? Hill Bots? Offensive, Abusive and OTT. Edit your post. n/t

 

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:01 AM

28. I am.

Just won't be voting for Hillary in my State's yet to be held primary -- or the GE for that matter. I will be voting for at least one Congressional Democrat in November, not sure about a 2nd at this point -- hoping he gets bumped via primary but doubtful, so likely voting for 2 Dems in November. Also making contributions to one at this point as well as Tim Canova (down with Debbie!).

So what's your point?

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:07 AM

32. It makes sense to registered Democrats.

I sense they never shared our Party vision.

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:13 AM

35. ...."all but over"

...means not over.

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:30 AM

39. sorry just cause someone has a D behind their name dont mean they are a worthwhile progressive

 

case in point ole HRC....

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:33 AM

41. True progressives.

 

Dems who aren't true progressives will not get my support.

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Response to ThePhilosopher04 (Reply #41)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:37 PM

58. ^^^^THIS^^^^

 

Truer words were never spoken.

And for me, HRC is not close to being progressive.

Glad he's not a true Dem, this crap is just bat-sh*t crazy stuff coming out of their mouths......
"hold your nose"
"its for the long fight"
"losers should help the winner"
"you may not like her but look who is on the other side"

Very logical type stuff?

Must be the HRC patronizing way, that is swaying me to HRC's camp.


peace!

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:43 AM

45. Some will, many won't.

They're certainly not all of the Bernie or Bust ilk.

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:28 PM

46. Do you expect us to just give up? I guess that's your behavior but not ours.

 

We will fight you to the convention and beyond.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #46)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:45 PM

59. We have alot passion! That will not be silenced!

 

Bernie 4eva!

They have well um....alot of money to sway the masses.
And by the looks of it, its done a pretty good job of brainwashing some people.
Establishment politics still works like it used to and turns mass media TV watchers into zombies.

HRC gotta love the Citizens United now!

If HRC supporters are not gracious in victory, then there may be a political schism next cycle for Dems.
Progressives and the "Not so Left" Establishment

Progressives never stop pushing for there goals.
Establishment people seem to like to settle for whatever is fed to them. Eat up! Its good for you.... really!


Peace out!

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Response to aurelius2112 (Reply #59)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:20 PM

60. Progressives will continue to fight against the oligarchy and their Democratic minions. nm

 

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:05 PM

51. Another day (actually another hour), same old shit.

 

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:09 PM

52. Supporting corporate friendly Democrats who will cooperate with the GOP

in trade deals, cutting Social Security, and allowing the banks to get even bigger?

Or supporting progressive politicians who will work for the 99%?

Electing weak, corporatist Democrats who stand for their own self interests is no solution.

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:10 PM

53. At this point we have California in front of us. And Delegates to Elect

 

in our districts for the Convention.

After the Convention we can then give 100% focus and support to down ticket. Some down ticket candidates are easier to piggy back right on to our Bernie campaign they'll be in good stead, good to go.

Some are just getting started, and we'll be working that too.

We can chew gum, walk and talk at the same time.

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:13 PM

54. Agreed

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:18 PM

56. Yes, it would be. Let's see if he does something like that

 

I'll wait and see. Not that I have a choice.

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:36 AM

61. We're multi-tasking, so don't worry about it.

 

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:14 AM

62. No! If we elect Bernie we get free college and healthcare for all!!!

 

Bernie will just make it happen because he is so honest and stuff. And birds like him.

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Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:56 AM

64. Nope, we've already worked harder than ever to save the country. It is your turn now. Have fun! nt

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