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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:08 PM

Obama: CPT stands for "jokes that white people should not make"



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Reply Obama: CPT stands for "jokes that white people should not make" (Original post)
TheDormouse Apr 2016 OP
Tarc Apr 2016 #1
Logical Apr 2016 #2
The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #4
senseandsensibility Apr 2016 #14
Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #19
Tarc Apr 2016 #5
Logical Apr 2016 #8
Tarc Apr 2016 #9
Logical Apr 2016 #11
Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #20
Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #28
Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #31
Joe the Revelator May 2016 #33
Chicago1980 May 2016 #36
Tarc May 2016 #41
Bluenorthwest May 2016 #44
Tarc May 2016 #50
SaschaHM May 2016 #51
Sparkly Apr 2016 #32
KingFlorez Apr 2016 #7
Logical Apr 2016 #16
Agschmid Apr 2016 #15
Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #18
wendylaroux Apr 2016 #10
LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #12
Number23 Apr 2016 #17
cyndensco May 2016 #52
Number23 May 2016 #54
sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #23
Tarc May 2016 #42
KingFlorez Apr 2016 #3
Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #21
msanthrope May 2016 #34
silvershadow May 2016 #40
northernsouthern May 2016 #35
Desert805 May 2016 #49
Logical Apr 2016 #6
Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #22
SaschaHM Apr 2016 #24
Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #26
Hiraeth Apr 2016 #25
Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #27
moriah Apr 2016 #13
grasswire Apr 2016 #29
Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #30
northernsouthern May 2016 #37
TDale313 May 2016 #39
Nonhlanhla May 2016 #43
northernsouthern May 2016 #45
Nonhlanhla May 2016 #46
northernsouthern May 2016 #47
Nonhlanhla May 2016 #48
northernsouthern May 2016 #53
Nonhlanhla May 2016 #55
bettyellen May 2016 #56
northernsouthern May 2016 #59
northernsouthern May 2016 #58
Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #38
Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #57

Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:13 PM

1. The better line was...

"It's anyone's guess who she will be", after wondering who will be speaking in his place at next year's correspondence dinner.


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Response to Tarc (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:15 PM

2. Warren might run independent I hope. That is what he meant. nt

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:17 PM

4. No, that won't happen.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:59 PM

14. Humor is not your forte

is it?

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Response to senseandsensibility (Reply #14)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:23 PM

19. Wasn't funny.

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Response to Logical (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:19 PM

5. Clap real hard!

It might come true!


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Response to Tarc (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:20 PM

8. Clap real hard and hillary might end up a real dem. nt

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:25 PM

9. Says the fan of the "democratic" socialist!



Sanders/Debs 2024!

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Response to Tarc (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:29 PM

11. LOL, a socialist who is still taking states from "inevitable", she sucks at closing the deal. nt

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:24 PM

20. Taking states like what?

Kansas? Oklahoma?

Psh...

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Response to Chicago1980 (Reply #20)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:44 PM

28. This isn't really the argument you want to make....

 

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Response to Joe the Revelator (Reply #28)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:51 PM

31. Not making an argument, just a point.

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Response to Chicago1980 (Reply #31)

Sun May 1, 2016, 12:02 AM

33. This isn't really the point you want to make.

 

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Response to Joe the Revelator (Reply #33)

Sun May 1, 2016, 01:06 AM

36. It's been made.

I'm done.

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Response to Joe the Revelator (Reply #33)

Sun May 1, 2016, 09:28 AM

41. The point that Sanders primarily only wins non-diverse states?

That point came through loud and clear, bro

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Response to Tarc (Reply #41)

Sun May 1, 2016, 12:00 PM

44. Oklahoma is 25% minority voters and has the most Native American voters of any

 

of the contiguous United States by percentage. Oklahoma is a fairly diverse State unless you discount the Native Americans, Latinos and persons of multiple races as you do Tarc. The percentage of white people in OK is similar to that in Illinois or the US as a whole. Your own biases are glaring here Tarc.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #44)

Sun May 1, 2016, 04:24 PM

50. Congrats on your cherry-picking skills

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Response to Tarc (Reply #50)

Sun May 1, 2016, 04:37 PM

51. I really don't understand why folks try to point to Oklahoma as a win for diversity on the part...

of Sanders. He still only won that because he did better with white voters than Clinton did. He got trounced when it came to black voters (71 to 27) and he lost all non-white voters by 15%. He won because he managed to appeal to more white people than Clinton could 36% to 56%. Had they split white voters 50-50, he would have lost resoundingly.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:52 PM

32. That's about where we are.

Ever since HRC killed fairies, stole Christmas, and burned the road to NeverNeverland.

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Response to Logical (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:20 PM

7. She's not Bernie Sanders

That's not something that she would do.

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:03 PM

16. Who told you she and bernie were the same person???

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:59 PM

15. Lolololol.

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Response to Logical (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:22 PM

18. Why would you even think that logical?

What goes through peoples brains to come up with nonsense like this?

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Response to Tarc (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:28 PM

10. quite a dick line.

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Response to wendylaroux (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:54 PM

12. Okay Mark Halperin

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Response to Tarc (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:05 PM

17. He did??! DAAAAAYUUUMM!!!!!!!

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But I gotta agree with O's comment. CPT jokes are just one of the many, MANY jokes that white people need to leave alone.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #17)

Sun May 1, 2016, 04:59 PM

52. Hey 23

I was disappointed when President Obama opened with CPT. Not this again..... But when he said it was a term white folk should not joke about, I screamed at my television. I LOVE this Obama!

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Response to cyndensco (Reply #52)

Sun May 1, 2016, 08:16 PM

54. Hey you!!! Loooooong time no see, not that I blame you one damn bit



But when he said it was a term white folk should not joke about, I screamed at my television. I LOVE this Obama!

Yep. I know DeBlasio may think he gets a pass because of his wife but he really doesn't. It was no where near the "racism" that clueless Sanders supporters tried to pretend that it was, but white folks still need to leave CPT jokes alone.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:28 PM

23. That was a line he should have left out in

order to stick to his so called "neutrality.

However, Larry made up for it, imo.

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Response to sadoldgirl (Reply #23)

Sun May 1, 2016, 09:29 AM

42. Oh, poor baby

Even Obama knows the election is over. Build a bridge and get over it.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:17 PM

3. That joke really ruined New York for her

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:26 PM

21. Ruined it so much that she won by about 250,000 votes.

Yup... Totally blown.

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #3)

Sun May 1, 2016, 12:05 AM

34. Ruined it so hard she won the primary.....nt

 

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #34)

Sun May 1, 2016, 05:54 AM

40. Well there was that one thing.... nt

 

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #3)

Sun May 1, 2016, 01:06 AM

35. Well being racist never hurt her with her core supporters and the media shields her well.

 

They were fine with her saying Obama was not american and a muslim...so I am sure this was a little payback.

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #3)

Sun May 1, 2016, 02:27 PM

49. It's silly to gloat over NY when registrations ended 6 months prior.

So lame.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:19 PM

6. She deserved it. So rude and racist. nt

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:26 PM

22. wasn't racist at all.

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Response to Chicago1980 (Reply #22)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:32 PM

24. Um... How dare you question white progressives when they tell you that you should be offended.

I cringed at the joke, but apparently being a black male for 20+ years has not taught me to be as outraged as these white progressives think I should be.

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Response to SaschaHM (Reply #24)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:37 PM

26. I've been professionally black for a decade or so longer than you.

The timing and rhythm may have been bad, but it was no different than a white people dance, just a bit off...

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Response to Chicago1980 (Reply #22)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:35 PM

25. they didn't tell it right. Hillary is shit for jokes, face it.

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Response to Hiraeth (Reply #25)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:38 PM

27. Can't deny that.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:57 PM

13. Agreed with Obama, even if I had remained...

.... blissfully unaware of the abbreviation itself.

I have often referred to running on Pagan Standard Time, though....

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:45 PM

29. He zinged HRC several times, later

That clip about "Trudging up the hill." For example.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:48 PM

30. Can't wait for when Obama starts campaigning with Hillary after the primary.

Going to be great.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun May 1, 2016, 01:08 AM

37. Lol, this is going to short out some HRC fans minds...

 

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...they can't talk bad about Obama because she us using him for her election...but they can't argue with Obama because he is black with out sounding a bit racist. But seriously that is funny.

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Response to northernsouthern (Reply #37)

Sun May 1, 2016, 03:00 AM

39. They have no problem with cognitive dissonance. n/t

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Response to northernsouthern (Reply #37)

Sun May 1, 2016, 09:34 AM

43. It does not short my mind

There is no cognitive dissonance in supporting someone and yet seeing their faults. Hillary's joke did fall flat. DeBlasio thought because he's married to a black woman, he's got enough insider cred to tell an insider joke, and Hillary went along. They were wrong. White folks don't always get it right, even the ones who are not necessarily rabid racists.

Obama's joke about Hillary is funny to me, and he is right, white folks should avoid certain jokes. It also helps that I'm a huge Obama fan - I supported him in 2008, and probably still would have if he ran again. I now support Hillary, warts and all. I can laugh at myself, and I can laugh at my chosen candidate.

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Response to Nonhlanhla (Reply #43)

Sun May 1, 2016, 12:19 PM

45. You are in the massive minority.

 

I posted several posts saying while she may not have been racist, it was the use of the joke in a position of power that indicated a disconnect with people that are minorities. It was the fact she uses these things like tricks or tools to her advantage I found distasteful. I don't think she "went along with it" though. I think she was just as game. She did the hot sauce joke the very next day which was far more racist to me because she thought, what is the one thing in my bap people listening to this show would want to hear about...oh hot-sauce, because that fucking matters for a president of the US to use hot sauce. One of the guys talked a little smack back to her about maybe she should cut back because she was coughing a bit too much.

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Response to northernsouthern (Reply #45)

Sun May 1, 2016, 01:29 PM

46. What was the hot sauce issue?

Sorry to be ignorant, but what was the controversy there?

And you're right, her and DeBlasio's joke showed a disconnect. But Bernie's comments about People of Color also fell flat. White people don't always get it right. But neither of our candidates is exactly a rabid racist.

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Response to Nonhlanhla (Reply #46)

Sun May 1, 2016, 01:37 PM

47. Wait, which comments about people of color?

 

I hope you are not talking about the faux rage over the ghetto comment. There is so much wrong with people's reaction to that I can hardly contain myself when a person brings it up...

But this is the hot sauce one, it angered many people of color out side of the bubble here. I found it was stereotyping since she went right for it in her literal bag of tricks (the one she does not carry, her aid does).
Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton's attempt at scoring some cool points went pretty far south on Monday morning during a visit to radio show The Breakfast Club. During a sitdown with Charlamagne Tha God, Angela Yee and DJ Envy to continue her push to reach New Yorkers before the New York primary this week, she made a statement that has some people giving the candidate some serious side-eye. Clinton claims that she, just like Beyonc, always has hot sauce in her purse.

Twitter, of course, has been relentlessly clowning Clinton for co-opting the famous line from Bey's "Formation," "I got hot sauce in my bag, swag." Skip to 25:00 in the video below to see Clinton answer the question, and then see how Twitter dragged her for it



http://www.bet.com/news/national/2016/04/18/hillary-clinton-says-she-always-has-hot-sauce.html

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Response to northernsouthern (Reply #47)

Sun May 1, 2016, 02:23 PM

48. I still don't really get the hot sauce issue, but if you say so, OK

Yes, the ghetto comment. I did not feel particularly outraged about it, but I did think it was part of a pattern that showed him to be a little bit out of touch. Also trying to show his Civil Rights cred did not really work.

I think both Hillary and Bernie are fundamentally decent, and committed to equal rights and racial justice. They both have their flaws too. They both pander, and they both sometimes come over as tone deaf.

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Response to Nonhlanhla (Reply #48)

Sun May 1, 2016, 07:09 PM

53. Well the hot sauce showed she was stereotyping.

 

It is like if I went to my black friend's house for a dinner party and brought fried chicken. It is something that is a stereotype, not matter how good your chicken is, or if you are personally known ad the fried chicken king (or queen)...you just need to be aware of stereotypes and try to avoid them. I linked you an article from BET that cited black twitter...so it is not some pastey white pundit or even some talkingheads having issues, this is people of color, and if they have a problem with it, then there is a problem with it.


As for Bernie's statement, you are kidding me. He was asked by BLM, and he responded directly to BLM saying if you are white you don't know what it is like to grow un in a ghetto, poor, adn get stopped by the police. Then a bunch of stupid racist and opportunistic white people jumped on him saying you can be white and poor, and not only black people live in the ghetto. HE IS A FUCKING JEW! THAT IS WHERE THE FUCKING TERM GHETTO COMES FROM! IF ANY ONE HAS A RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT IT, IT IS THE PERSON THAT LOST FAMILY IN WW2 FROM THE GHETTOS! He was not saying all black people are poor, he works with plenty of people of color that are most likely far better off than him. Nor was the guy that spent all of his life fighting for the working man saying white people are not poor! He was clearly saying that we as a nation do not know what it is like to be born of a system that keeps many people of a certain color down, in poor areas, repressed by the police. He was trying to put forth the message for BLM, you know the people that attacked him in his Seattle visit? The response to his statement was the most disgusting piece of insincere jingoistic crap. I am fucking white, I grew up with NO electricity, I lived in fucking trailer parks, I went to the black school in our town, and my wife and her family made far more money than me and they are all black. Thanks for reminding me how much more I hate HRC by bringing that up.

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Response to northernsouthern (Reply #53)

Sun May 1, 2016, 08:20 PM

55. OK

I think your hatred of Hillary and your support of Bernie might be coloring your judgement here. If you are going to judge Hillary's missteps and excuse Bernie's, then we have nothing further to discuss. I see them both as fine although at times tonedeaf.

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Response to Nonhlanhla (Reply #55)

Sun May 1, 2016, 09:51 PM

56. it is clouding his judgement- he doubtless knows that Hillary's been talking about her hot sauce

 

(being the only thing interesting and relatable in her purse) for many years. SBS supporters accused her of lying of copying Beyonce and incorrectly saying it is a black thing, when it is more of a southern thing.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #56)

Tue May 3, 2016, 01:27 AM

59. Jesus, cut out that lie!

 

She has mentioned it a few times, good for her, she does not carry around her bag, she has that lady do it for her. You are blind to racism if you do not see any issue with it. I love watermelon, more than my wife or any of her family do at all. If I buy one I am the only person in the house that eats it...the whole f@cking melon. But if I went on a news show with a bunch of people of color I did not know, and they asked me what I like to eat...and I said watermelon???? That would be fucking stupid and I would deserve a smack down. They were not asking her about her hot sauce, she could have said her Blackberry since she basically broke several laws just to use it in the past....she could have said anything, but she pulled a fucking Beyounce! That is the point. She has not said that hotsauce once in a good while...and she just happened to drop it with the young black interviewers? That is why Black twitter mocked her for days. But hey, a very large group of black people thought it was fucked up, so go ahead and tell them not to be upset. What the hell is wrong with our party these days!

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Response to Nonhlanhla (Reply #55)

Tue May 3, 2016, 01:20 AM

58. No it is not that.

 

I started out trying to be neutral on here, but I got sick and tired of the f@cking race card being played. I have lived though and seen some f@cked up sh!t and is some privileged keyboard warrior thinks they get the right to abuse racism and sexism for their own gains it makes me physically angry. Like i have mentioned, in our caucus some white rich older lady got up and spoke saying none of us Bernie cans would vote for him is his name was Bernice...800+ people all booed and hissed her for several minutes. When they finally stopped and she tried to say something more a disabled vet in the back snapped, and began yelling that she has no right to make these claims, he fought for this country and was injured, he was not voting against her because she was a woman, he was voting against her because she would send more people to die. He was physically shaking, you could tell he was reliving something. People rushed him to try to quite him and he started screaming at everyone. There are things you DO NOT fuck with...and Hillary's team has done so in spades.

So for the record why don't you tell me his MISTAKE? Spell it out for me, I want to know how an older Jewish man trying to talk about race inequality on a national stage was wrong?

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun May 1, 2016, 01:09 AM

38. It was his first joke. Boom!

Obama was great tonight. Loved his improvement on Hillary's slogan.

He said it should be "Trudge Up The Hill"!!!

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Mon May 2, 2016, 09:26 PM

57. Obama was so funny at that thing.

 

Really did have me laughing

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