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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:51 PM May 2016

Some Indiana Counties Closed Two-Thirds Of Their Polling Places Ahead Of Record Turnout Election Day


Mary Lyons hands out registration forms as voters line-up to cast their early votes at the City-County Building in Indianapolis.

Some 4 million Indiana voters are expected to head to the polls today in record numbers, as the state takes an unexpected spotlight in a primary where candidates in both parties are fighting it out until the bitter end. The state has already seen extremely high turnout in early voting; over 50 percent more people have cast early ballots than when Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama went head-to-head in 2008.

Yet several factors could cause chaos at the polls on Tuesday. The state is only keeping sites open until 6 p.m., which could pose difficulties for people who cannot leave work until 5 p.m. or later. Many other states keep their polls open until at least 8 p.m. And unlike some other states, Indiana has no laws requiring employers to give their workers time off in order to vote.
Indiana also has an open primary, in which registered Independents can vote for any candidate they choose, which may lead to even higher turnout and longer lines. Some counties already had lines at the door when the polls opened at 6 a.m.
Yet despite the anticipation of long waits, some counties in Indiana have also followed Arizona’s lead in slashing the number of polling places. In Wells County, which has the highest turnout rate in the state, officials cut the number of available voting sites from 15 to five.

Though most issues are expected at the end of the day, when people try to vote after work, some problems have already popped up. A polling place in South Bend, Indiana was shut down for a little over an hour during the morning rush after police received a call about a suicidal individual nearby.

More here:http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/05/03/3774740/indiana-voting-issues/

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Some Indiana Counties Closed Two-Thirds Of Their Polling Places Ahead Of Record Turnout Election Day (Original Post) Playinghardball May 2016 OP
GOP plans on stealing the upcoming election, I hope everybody knows that? Do you? Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #1
Picture an ostrich with the head of Alfred E. Neuman. dchill May 2016 #5
And Hilary will look the other way. bahrbearian May 2016 #14
....just like Gore and the DNC did Ferd Berfel May 2016 #36
Hillary SUED in Arizona! WhiteTara May 2016 #41
Her suit helps her control the outcome. Melissa G May 2016 #55
I have said it all over this forum. This election is rigged...15 down to 5 bkkyosemite May 2016 #2
I never understood why Indiana and Kentucky close their polls at 6. hrmjustin May 2016 #3
Voter disenfranchisement NWCorona May 2016 #6
Yes and you stop voter registrations after the first debate before people know their candidate. nm floriduck May 2016 #8
Garbage in, garbage out. JudyM May 2016 #26
Wrong again. 6 months prior to the NY primary, there had been 1 debate. nm floriduck May 2016 #47
Wrong in what way? JudyM May 2016 #50
So the bars can open. Indiana bars not allowed to operate while the polls are open. n/t ieoeja May 2016 #33
Seriously???? moriah May 2016 #49
Unless they have changed the law since I lived in Indiana. n/t ieoeja May 2016 #57
Honest to goodness, the bars weren't open this morning They must have been voting for a new FSogol May 2016 #56
Aren't they eastern time? That would make it 7pm WhiteTara May 2016 #43
Split time zone state. hrmjustin May 2016 #44
Wow! Who lives like that? WhiteTara May 2016 #45
The NW part of IN is very tied into Chicagoland. Ace Rothstein May 2016 #54
Early voting opens 29 days before the election Travis_0004 May 2016 #53
Down with the Party Establishment. jwirr May 2016 #4
Let's FACE IT: Some here do not CARE that this is happening, because it benefits ONE candidate... AzDar May 2016 #7
I suspect closing the polls early is more likely to give Sanders a boost. Garrett78 May 2016 #9
How do you come to the conclusion that it benefits one candidate? jcgoldie May 2016 #18
But hey, only the primaries are important. lagomorph777 May 2016 #19
Really? Beacool May 2016 #23
More complete bullshit leftynyc May 2016 #34
Can Indiana voters vote absentee in a primary? n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #10
Yes. Mail-in ballots are used. MineralMan May 2016 #15
The DNC is doing literally everything that I hate about Republicans. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #11
The DNC has nothing to do with Indiana's election laws. MineralMan May 2016 #16
Much like the DNC has nothing to do with states sending the HVF "donations" back to the DNC lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #20
The DNC has nothing to do with the number of Indiana polling places. NuclearDem May 2016 #21
Connie Laswon, Indiana's Secretary of State, runs the elections. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #29
you seem to be confused as to who handles state matters.... bettyellen May 2016 #31
How expensive is it for a state to run a primary/caucus? floppyboo May 2016 #12
Another notch to use against the DNC Joob May 2016 #13
The dNC has nothing to do with the polls closings or election day staffing. hrmjustin May 2016 #22
+1 Firebrand Gary May 2016 #30
Ironclad proof sweetapogee May 2016 #17
This election is so transparently rotten... Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #24
The framers only planned for white male property owners to vote Fresh_Start May 2016 #32
Sure. But would they be of that opinion today? Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #37
most likely yes, they would still be that way today. Fresh_Start May 2016 #39
Sigh... Figures. K and R Rebkeh May 2016 #25
Dirty tricks! yourpaljoey May 2016 #27
Elections really should be removed from the secretary of state's portfolio nemo137 May 2016 #28
We need a new voting rights act, one which sets some minimal standards for elections, including..... LongTomH May 2016 #35
National holiday for election day. Nationwide standardized early-voting. Automatic registeration. NurseJackie May 2016 #38
I am glad all this is being documented felix_numinous May 2016 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj May 2016 #42
The DNC does NOT set the rules. The Secretary of State WhiteTara May 2016 #46
In Arkansas at least, anyone in line when the polls close gets to vote. moriah May 2016 #48
That's how it should be everywhere. Just like at the bank. grossproffit May 2016 #51
It just never ends and not a G-damn thing will be done about it. bjo59 May 2016 #52
 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
8. Yes and you stop voter registrations after the first debate before people know their candidate. nm
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:02 PM
May 2016

moriah

(8,311 posts)
49. Seriously????
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:07 PM
May 2016

Oh c'mon, this ruins the "drink heavily after" party unity strategy in the GE...

Seriously???

FSogol

(45,473 posts)
56. Honest to goodness, the bars weren't open this morning They must have been voting for a new
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:27 AM
May 2016

president of something...

WhiteTara

(29,701 posts)
45. Wow! Who lives like that?
Tue May 3, 2016, 06:23 PM
May 2016

It must be a nightmare! Wake up at 6 and it's really 7? Wake up at 7 and it's really 6? I would go crazy.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
53. Early voting opens 29 days before the election
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:33 PM
May 2016

I agree with you that 6 is a bit early, even 7 would be a huge improvement. But you do have 30 days to vote.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
7. Let's FACE IT: Some here do not CARE that this is happening, because it benefits ONE candidate...
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:57 PM
May 2016

But the proverbial shoe will be on the other foot should their candidate prevail in the primary, and this happens to THEM in the GE...


None Blinder Than Those Who REFUSE To See...

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
9. I suspect closing the polls early is more likely to give Sanders a boost.
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:05 PM
May 2016

I would think the after-work crowd leans Clinton. Millennials tend to have more flexibility in their schedule.

Of course, it all depends on what county we're talking about. In some places each candidate will benefit and in other places each candidate will be harmed.

The bottom line is there clearly aren't enough people to man polling places. If it was up to me, every primary would take place over the course of 3 days, including a weekend day (Thursday through Saturday). And there would be the option of voting early by mail, as in Oregon.

jcgoldie

(11,629 posts)
18. How do you come to the conclusion that it benefits one candidate?
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:17 PM
May 2016

Usually its urban and minority heavy districts where they are short polling places. If you haven't been paying attention, those are the voters who have overwhelmingly voted against your guy.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
19. But hey, only the primaries are important.
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:20 PM
May 2016

I mean, it's not like voter suppression could bite us in the ass in the GE, right?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
34. More complete bullshit
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:41 PM
May 2016

Where is your proof this hurts Bernie and not Hillary - whose voters are older and likely voting AFTER work?

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
15. Yes. Mail-in ballots are used.
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:14 PM
May 2016

I saw one report that said about 250K were sent out, and a high percentage of those have been marked and mailed.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
16. The DNC has nothing to do with Indiana's election laws.
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:15 PM
May 2016

Really. It doesn't. Every state handles its own election.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
21. The DNC has nothing to do with the number of Indiana polling places.
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:26 PM
May 2016

Bring that up with the Republican governor and Secretary of State we have here.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
29. Connie Laswon, Indiana's Secretary of State, runs the elections.
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:02 PM
May 2016


Vent your anger and Lawson and Republicans. They are the only ones with the power to do what was done.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
12. How expensive is it for a state to run a primary/caucus?
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:09 PM
May 2016

And does the state party pay for all/some/most of it or does the DNC/RNC pitch in? Aside from some of the glaring instances of vote rigging (Chicago) could it be that's its just too damned expensive to run a fair election?

What if the DNC and RNC formed a joint committee and agreed on some rules? Oh, I hear laughing already! Something's gotta change though!

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
24. This election is so transparently rotten...
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:31 PM
May 2016

...that I suspect that high-pitched sound you hear is the Framers whirling in their graves at 10,000rpm. They'd be disgusted we're not rising against this shit.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
37. Sure. But would they be of that opinion today?
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:49 PM
May 2016

I very much doubt it. They would, however, be up in arms (probably literally) about election shenanigans (regardless of what candidate might have been harmed).

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
39. most likely yes, they would still be that way today.
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:04 PM
May 2016

The Framers were a fairly aristocratic bunch, many of whom had mixed feelings about “democracy,” which they sometimes regarded as mob rule. Although the preamble begins with “We, the people,” and guarantees a “republican form of government” to all of the states, the word “democracy” is not mentioned in the text of the Constitution.

When the Framers used the word themselves it was often a pejorative term. On the convention’s first day, delegate Edmund Randolph of Virginia warned that “none of the [state] constitutions have provided sufficient checks against democracy.” A week later, Massachusetts delegate Elbridge Gerry said “the evils we experience flow from the excess of democracy.” Father of the Constitution James Madison referred to “the inconvenience of democracy,” and Alexander Hamilton to the “imprudence” of it.

The Framers did, after all, create four power centers (president, House, Senate and Supreme Court) and only the House was to be directly elected.

But, on balance, the Framers’ decision not to let the people directly elect the president is more complicated than their aristocratic mistrust of the mob.

nemo137

(3,297 posts)
28. Elections really should be removed from the secretary of state's portfolio
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:00 PM
May 2016

As long as it's an elected office. The current Indiana Secretary of State used to be the Republican floor leader in their lege.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
35. We need a new voting rights act, one which sets some minimal standards for elections, including.....
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:46 PM
May 2016

.......primaries. Let the states continue to hold elections, but require them to hold to some decent standards.

Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

WhiteTara

(29,701 posts)
46. The DNC does NOT set the rules. The Secretary of State
Tue May 3, 2016, 06:29 PM
May 2016

who is Republicon sets up the election laws. I know it's convenient to blame the DNC, but really, become informed before you blame.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
48. In Arkansas at least, anyone in line when the polls close gets to vote.
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:06 PM
May 2016

That's why it takes longer in counties with precincts that are larger and likely to have a long waiting line when the polls close.

I hope it's the same in Indiana. When I was a poll worker in the GE for 2008, we didn't check in the last voter until two hours after the polls had closed. Someone had to stand outside and hand out tickets showing they hsd been in line at the marker because we couldn't spare anyone to stand outside and monitor people for those two hours.

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
52. It just never ends and not a G-damn thing will be done about it.
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:29 PM
May 2016

I'm getting really sick of living in such a corrupted country.

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