2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSome Indiana Counties Closed Two-Thirds Of Their Polling Places Ahead Of Record Turnout Election Day
Mary Lyons hands out registration forms as voters line-up to cast their early votes at the City-County Building in Indianapolis.
Some 4 million Indiana voters are expected to head to the polls today in record numbers, as the state takes an unexpected spotlight in a primary where candidates in both parties are fighting it out until the bitter end. The state has already seen extremely high turnout in early voting; over 50 percent more people have cast early ballots than when Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama went head-to-head in 2008.
Yet several factors could cause chaos at the polls on Tuesday. The state is only keeping sites open until 6 p.m., which could pose difficulties for people who cannot leave work until 5 p.m. or later. Many other states keep their polls open until at least 8 p.m. And unlike some other states, Indiana has no laws requiring employers to give their workers time off in order to vote.
Indiana also has an open primary, in which registered Independents can vote for any candidate they choose, which may lead to even higher turnout and longer lines. Some counties already had lines at the door when the polls opened at 6 a.m.
Yet despite the anticipation of long waits, some counties in Indiana have also followed Arizonas lead in slashing the number of polling places. In Wells County, which has the highest turnout rate in the state, officials cut the number of available voting sites from 15 to five.
Though most issues are expected at the end of the day, when people try to vote after work, some problems have already popped up. A polling place in South Bend, Indiana was shut down for a little over an hour during the morning rush after police received a call about a suicidal individual nearby.
More here:http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/05/03/3774740/indiana-voting-issues/
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)dchill
(38,468 posts)bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)WhiteTara
(29,701 posts)Why don't you try being fair minded.
Melissa G
(10,170 posts)All hat, no cattle.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)We close our polls at 9 in NY.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Some want low turnout
floriduck
(2,262 posts)JudyM
(29,225 posts)floriduck
(2,262 posts)JudyM
(29,225 posts)ieoeja
(9,748 posts)moriah
(8,311 posts)Oh c'mon, this ruins the "drink heavily after" party unity strategy in the GE...
Seriously???
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)FSogol
(45,473 posts)president of something...
WhiteTara
(29,701 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)WhiteTara
(29,701 posts)It must be a nightmare! Wake up at 6 and it's really 7? Wake up at 7 and it's really 6? I would go crazy.
Ace Rothstein
(3,159 posts)That's why they are on Central Time.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)I agree with you that 6 is a bit early, even 7 would be a huge improvement. But you do have 30 days to vote.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)But the proverbial shoe will be on the other foot should their candidate prevail in the primary, and this happens to THEM in the GE...
None Blinder Than Those Who REFUSE To See...
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)I would think the after-work crowd leans Clinton. Millennials tend to have more flexibility in their schedule.
Of course, it all depends on what county we're talking about. In some places each candidate will benefit and in other places each candidate will be harmed.
The bottom line is there clearly aren't enough people to man polling places. If it was up to me, every primary would take place over the course of 3 days, including a weekend day (Thursday through Saturday). And there would be the option of voting early by mail, as in Oregon.
jcgoldie
(11,629 posts)Usually its urban and minority heavy districts where they are short polling places. If you haven't been paying attention, those are the voters who have overwhelmingly voted against your guy.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)I mean, it's not like voter suppression could bite us in the ass in the GE, right?
Care to prove that?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Where is your proof this hurts Bernie and not Hillary - whose voters are older and likely voting AFTER work?
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)MineralMan
(146,284 posts)I saw one report that said about 250K were sent out, and a high percentage of those have been marked and mailed.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)MineralMan
(146,284 posts)Really. It doesn't. Every state handles its own election.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Bring that up with the Republican governor and Secretary of State we have here.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Vent your anger and Lawson and Republicans. They are the only ones with the power to do what was done.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)no reason to post bullshit. get informed.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)And does the state party pay for all/some/most of it or does the DNC/RNC pitch in? Aside from some of the glaring instances of vote rigging (Chicago) could it be that's its just too damned expensive to run a fair election?
What if the DNC and RNC formed a joint committee and agreed on some rules? Oh, I hear laughing already! Something's gotta change though!
Joob
(1,065 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)sweetapogee
(1,168 posts)of something.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)...that I suspect that high-pitched sound you hear is the Framers whirling in their graves at 10,000rpm. They'd be disgusted we're not rising against this shit.
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)no women
no minorities
no renters
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I very much doubt it. They would, however, be up in arms (probably literally) about election shenanigans (regardless of what candidate might have been harmed).
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)The Framers were a fairly aristocratic bunch, many of whom had mixed feelings about democracy, which they sometimes regarded as mob rule. Although the preamble begins with We, the people, and guarantees a republican form of government to all of the states, the word democracy is not mentioned in the text of the Constitution.
When the Framers used the word themselves it was often a pejorative term. On the conventions first day, delegate Edmund Randolph of Virginia warned that none of the [state] constitutions have provided sufficient checks against democracy. A week later, Massachusetts delegate Elbridge Gerry said the evils we experience flow from the excess of democracy. Father of the Constitution James Madison referred to the inconvenience of democracy, and Alexander Hamilton to the imprudence of it.
The Framers did, after all, create four power centers (president, House, Senate and Supreme Court) and only the House was to be directly elected.
But, on balance, the Framers decision not to let the people directly elect the president is more complicated than their aristocratic mistrust of the mob.
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)nemo137
(3,297 posts)As long as it's an elected office. The current Indiana Secretary of State used to be the Republican floor leader in their lege.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts).......primaries. Let the states continue to hold elections, but require them to hold to some decent standards.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)The people can decide for themselves what is corrupt.
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WhiteTara
(29,701 posts)who is Republicon sets up the election laws. I know it's convenient to blame the DNC, but really, become informed before you blame.
moriah
(8,311 posts)That's why it takes longer in counties with precincts that are larger and likely to have a long waiting line when the polls close.
I hope it's the same in Indiana. When I was a poll worker in the GE for 2008, we didn't check in the last voter until two hours after the polls had closed. Someone had to stand outside and hand out tickets showing they hsd been in line at the marker because we couldn't spare anyone to stand outside and monitor people for those two hours.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)bjo59
(1,166 posts)I'm getting really sick of living in such a corrupted country.