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Wed May 4, 2016, 07:26 AM

From a Bernie Guy - relax - Hillary will be Prez.

Everything is fine.
In fact, things are great for we Democrats.
Trump clinching is manna from heaven and will give us the Senate (and big gains in the House).

Bernie staying in thru California is a good thing.
He and his supporters know the super delegates will not change en masse to him.
He knows he won't get the nomination.
But, why get out now?
One more month won't damage Hillary.
It might even strengthen her with more people registering to vote.
All polling shows the vast majority, about 80%, of Bernie voters will vote Hillary in November.
The rest will vote Green or just stay home.
They won't vote for Trump. They just won't.

Bernies supporters in California and elsewhere deserve a vote on 6/7 when Hillary should clinch.
Bernie will get a good speaking spot in Philadelphia where he will bring down the house with a full throated endorsement of Hillary.
She will go on to win 40 states in November.
So, my dear Hillary friends, get a good herbal tea and a massage today.
I know you are disappointed about Indiana but that was just a blip on the screen.
on 6/7, my Bernie bumper sticker will be replaced with I'm With Her.
She will be President. Just a matter of how big the landslide will be.


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Reply From a Bernie Guy - relax - Hillary will be Prez. (Original post)
Funtatlaguy May 2016 OP
JaneyVee May 2016 #1
TCJ70 May 2016 #2
JaneyVee May 2016 #4
TCJ70 May 2016 #5
JaneyVee May 2016 #6
TCJ70 May 2016 #8
cali May 2016 #3
Agschmid May 2016 #9
DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #7
Demsrule86 May 2016 #10
JudyM May 2016 #11
Funtatlaguy May 2016 #12
JudyM May 2016 #13
Fumesucker May 2016 #19
Demsrule86 May 2016 #16
JudyM May 2016 #17
Demsrule86 May 2016 #20
JudyM May 2016 #21
bklyncowgirl May 2016 #14
whatchamacallit May 2016 #15
nolawarlock May 2016 #18

Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 07:30 AM

1. Disappointed? Bernie blew $2Mil on 3 delegates.

 

This is a delegate race. Hillary is our nominee.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #1)

Wed May 4, 2016, 07:31 AM

2. Man, you can't even be nice to someone...

...who is trying to encourage you.

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Response to TCJ70 (Reply #2)

Wed May 4, 2016, 07:33 AM

4. What did I write that wasnt "nice"?

 

Besides facts?

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #4)

Wed May 4, 2016, 07:36 AM

5. You took a post from someone acknowledging their candidate is losing...

...and expressing that they will support your candidate in the future, as an opportunity to put down supporters of that other candidate.

Maybe nice wasn't the right word, how about just say "thank you for supporting my candidate" and move on? Why throw crap in what is truly a thread meant to bring people together?

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Response to TCJ70 (Reply #5)

Wed May 4, 2016, 07:36 AM

6. Facts matter.

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #6)

Wed May 4, 2016, 07:41 AM

8. You have a nice day...

...and enjoy some of these facts:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511896464

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 07:33 AM

3. No shit. Panicky, aren't they.

 

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Response to cali (Reply #3)

Wed May 4, 2016, 07:44 AM

9. Some of us are not.

Some are.

I'd say both sides have their excitable people.

Welcome back, btw.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 07:37 AM

7. I am trying to increase the peace but it is difficult.

Your intentions are laudable. I just don't see how it is helpful for Clinton fight a two front war against Trump and Sanders especially when the former is using the latter's words against her and treating him with kid gloves.

She has a problem that is beyond my ken to fix.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 07:45 AM

10. He has damaged her with his attacks

One more month helps Trump.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #10)

Wed May 4, 2016, 08:45 AM

11. TRump will have no shortage of much more intense attacks.

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Response to JudyM (Reply #11)

Wed May 4, 2016, 09:39 AM

12. They will be low brow and disgusting

National Enquirer stuff lies.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #12)

Wed May 4, 2016, 09:44 AM

13. Many of them will be true, despite being Enquirer-like.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #12)

Wed May 4, 2016, 02:13 PM

19. You mean the outfit that outed John Edwards' affair?

The Enquirer sure shot his campaign down.

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Response to JudyM (Reply #11)

Wed May 4, 2016, 01:43 PM

16. Trump is a Republican

It is expected he will go after the nominee...but Bernie crossed the line...and has attacked her like a Republican. He needs to go. Obviously, the loss has devastated him and he is not thinking straight. I can't imagine Bernie wanting President Trump...although, some say in the Senate he can be spiteful

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #16)

Wed May 4, 2016, 02:03 PM

17. Ha. She did much worse to Obama. Read your history.

And she was much worse to him, including fabricating things, insinuating he wasn't qualified BEFORE HE RESPONDED BACK THAT HER JUDGMENT SHOULD DISQUALIFY HER! Etc. Don't make us laugh, please.

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Response to JudyM (Reply #17)

Wed May 4, 2016, 03:37 PM

20. No she didn't

Any article written contemporaneously and not recently by those with an axe to grind will find that she did not criticise President Obama at the end of the primary. Bernie has been awful. In fact, Trump is certainly using Bernie's words against Hillary. She did not say Bernie was unqualified. And please note that I think and others too... that he lost New York because he called her unqualified. I don't care about Bernie. I used to like him. I don't anymore. My interest is in the general to stop Trump...Hillary Clinton has won...and that is it...I do not want to see Bernie used by Trump to win the general...because then...there is no turn to the left ever as the courts will be stacked with Trumps favorite type judges...he favors Scalia. You can be bitter and angry if you want...your decision. But a primary is a means to an end...picking a candidate and then winning the general. We have our candidate. Time to move on.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #20)

Wed May 4, 2016, 03:58 PM

21. In point of fact, she said she was going to disqualify him and put the party back together after -

before he said anything about her... I was watching tv when that message from her campaign came in and they read it on air.

Second, if you listen carefully his point is that her poor judgement (Iraq, trade, prisons, etc) should disqualify her, not that she was "unqualified" which is a distorted meme that you have apparently adopted. It's inaccurate and if that is what your issue is with him you might want to take another look at those facts. He used the qualification idiom expressly in response to her use of it.

But we differ in understanding and you are of course entitled to holding onto your view, even if it's a distorted trope.

If you want to move forward with the GE you might want to just visit GD and leave GD-P until after the convention, because you are not going to convince many of us that it's over. Personally, I believe, as a lawyer, that she is going to be disqualified, or should be, fairly soon.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 09:51 AM

14. Last time this happened was 2008.

Hillary Clinton went on contesting states long after it became clear that Obama would be the nominee. Despite the hand wringing it worked out pretty good for our side. Ironic, isn't it that Clinton supporters are now the ones doing the hand wringing.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 02:07 PM

18. I don't feel that strongly either way.

I think his not dropping out is sorta circling the drain compared to Hillary dropping out with much less between her and Obama.

I also wonder if it might hurt Hillary's chances with a divided party in a small way. I think the biggest concern might be that it shortens the time window within which some of the most die-hard Bernie fans have to come around to accepting Hillary. Yeah, some never will but more will given a longer window of time.

These concerns above might be grave ones in a normal election but I just can't imagine Trump winning against either candidate. I guess time will tell but I know that peer pressure accounts for a lot and the Trumpeters are going to get a lot louder on the social media in the GE and those of us who have them in our network circles are going to weigh in.

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