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Mike Sington: Calling it now...It will be Bernie vs Trump and Bernie will win!! (Original Post) Playinghardball May 2016 OP
With a possible indictment hanging over her head, HRC should drop out... Yurovsky May 2016 #1
I agree that she is most likely facing indictment CoffeeCat May 2016 #4
Look on the bright side! alan2102 May 2016 #6
Dang, she costs the tax payers a lot of money. nt artislife May 2016 #8
Great, brief summary pdsimdars May 2016 #16
Well, if she is indicted (and i believe she will not be) then Bernie will win. Jitter65 May 2016 #9
They're not complaining, they're "bargaining"... NurseJackie May 2016 #13
A couple of points--and some thoughts... CoffeeCat May 2016 #15
That's nice...who's he? brooklynite May 2016 #2
My thoughts exactly. iandhr May 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author iandhr May 2016 #3
It is. How many indy's can vote in closed primaries? pinebox May 2016 #7
What about caucus states? iandhr May 2016 #10
And why should Indy's be able to vote in a Democratic primary? pdsimdars May 2016 #17
psst ... Hillary won most of the open primaries too. JoePhilly May 2016 #11
Well that changes EVERYTHING! If Mike Sington is calling-it, then Hillary doesn't stand a chance! NurseJackie May 2016 #12
*shudder* nolawarlock May 2016 #14
The guy on the left in that photo madokie May 2016 #18
He added: dana_b May 2016 #19

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
1. With a possible indictment hanging over her head, HRC should drop out...
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:15 PM
May 2016

otherwise she could destroy the party for 10 years (Trump vs a crook in November would be the storyline). It's too great a risk when Bernie beats Trump I'm EVERY poll!

Drop out now Hillary. And yes, her supporters are welcome inside our big tent. We'll make room, but we won't sell out.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
4. I agree that she is most likely facing indictment
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:40 PM
May 2016

She needs to do the right thing and drop out, if that is the case.

At the end of March, the FBI reported in the LA Times, that they would begin interviewing Clinton's aids, then Clinton.

The interviews with her aids will give very clear insight into the case against Clinton--and also the tone, tenor and seriousness of the case against her.

Clinton, most likely, knows by now--if she will be indicted or not.

If you research exactly what she did with her private email server, there is no doubt that she violated the NDA that she signed when she was first hired as SOS. She also violated the FOIA and the Federal Records Act, by exclusively using that server for all email correspondence. She was supposed to use a .gov email address, which creates a copy/back up of all correspondence. Her server allowed her to illegally violate the FOIA and the FRA. She also failed to turn over all work-related emails, as the FBI directed her to do. The hacker Guccifer posted emails between Clinton and Blumenthal--that Guccifer found when he hacked into Blumenthal's emails. The FBI noticed that this correspondence had not been turned over by Hillary Clinton. This is Obstruction of Justice and Evidence Tampering.

She deleted 30,000 emails. The FBI was able to recover those emails. She knows what's in those emails.

She needs to do the right thing here. The Demcratic party is headed for a historical crisis. The problem is the Hillary supporters have been busy little elves--desperately positioning this as much ado about nothing--and nothing more than a right-wing lie.

These Hillary "Democrats" are doing a grave disservice to our party when they encourage Democrats to remain ignorant and uninformed about what is happening in their own party. It is crazy.

 

alan2102

(75 posts)
6. Look on the bright side!
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:58 PM
May 2016

The destruction of the DP might be a good thing. With the old corporate/fascist core of the DP discredited and in total disarray, we would have the opportunity to compose a real alternative!

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
16. Great, brief summary
Wed May 4, 2016, 04:12 PM
May 2016

I have watched a number of long videos about this and this is a good summary.

The other half of their investigation is the Clinton Foundation and possible improprieties regarding her position as SoS.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
9. Well, if she is indicted (and i believe she will not be) then Bernie will win.
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:09 PM
May 2016

so why are you complaining?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
13. They're not complaining, they're "bargaining"...
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:26 PM
May 2016

... they also know she won't be indicted, but they want to create enough doubt and fear in hopes of swaying voters. (Or to just annoy.) Either way, it's claptrap and can be safely disregarded.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
15. A couple of points--and some thoughts...
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:02 PM
May 2016

She doesn't have to be indicted for this to end for her. The FBI could recommend indictment. It's up to the DOJ to indict. However, if the FBI recommends, she is done.

Secondly, it's not as easy as Bernie winning. This is why I get so irritated with these little Clinton elves who suggest that Sanders's supporters are "hoping and praying hehehehe" for an indictment. Those fools know nothing.

Indictment is not good news for Sanders. Or for the Democratic party. It's a complete crisis.

Clinton "owns" her delegates. She is not simply going to release them to Sanders. She will have very, very specific instructions to her loyal delegates about what she wants them to do. Believe me, I am a delegate for Sanders. I was a delegate at our County Convention, District Convention and State is next. Delegates are fiercely loyal people who have fought to remain delegates as the process plays out in their states. There's no way in hell Clinton will tell her delegates to vote for Sanders. No way.

Now...if the FBI does recommend indictment, some of her Clinton supporters may defect to Bernie. Sure. They are free to do as they wish. However, think about how many Bernie supporters would defect to Clinton. The chasm is so deep between the two camps.

Clinton, do doubt will have a plan. The entire Democratic party and Clinton will have a very specific, well-thought-out plan. They will have someone else in mind, to whom Clinton will release her delegates. She will make the case. Obama will help her make the case. The entire Democratic establishment will be making the case, for all of this.

And here's the problem. Hillary supporters and those loyal to establishment bullshit--have rabidly discouraged rational discourse, open discussion and research into Clinton's email scandal and the FBI investigation. They squelch all of this--like crazed loons. They do this, because when the shit hits the fan--they want people shocked and traumatized and wanting a solution. They want us all standing in the dark--until the crisis happens and the Dem party has the solution. This situation will upend the election and the party. They don't want us to think. They want us to go along with what they want.

My guess is what Biden will be offered up as the candidate, and that he'll ask Bernie to be his VP.

If the FBI recommends indictment--I don't see this playing out any other way. It's important that we're all informed and prepared.

Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
7. It is. How many indy's can vote in closed primaries?
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:59 PM
May 2016

In a GE, there is no slamming door in your face effect.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
10. What about caucus states?
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:10 PM
May 2016

They disenfranchise more people then closed primaries. If you have a job where you can't show up at the designated caucus time you can't vote.

And why should Indy's be able to vote in a Democratic primary?


In Indina in 2008 many Republicans voted in the Democratic primary as part of Rush's operation chaos.



 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
17. And why should Indy's be able to vote in a Democratic primary?
Wed May 4, 2016, 04:14 PM
May 2016

Because it would allow you to pick the best candidate for the election that matters, the GE. All those Independents will vote there and the Independents are the largest group. Dems are only about 30%.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
12. Well that changes EVERYTHING! If Mike Sington is calling-it, then Hillary doesn't stand a chance!
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:22 PM
May 2016

Oh, lordy! What ever will we do! I feel faint ... someone get my smelling salts!




I mean, seriously ... check it out! Why shouldn't we be concerned with creds like this:

Movie/TV Studio Executive, Hollywood Insider, Celebrity Expert

Mike Sington graduated from college and arrived in Hollywood knowing no one in the Industry, having no job, not even a place to stay. He quickly landed a coveted job as a movie studio tour guide, rising rapidly through the ranks to a senior level executive position. During his career at Universal Studios, Mike co-created and produced Universal's world famous Studio Tour. He established and helmed the studio's renowned Tour Guide Program, famous worldwide as the leading launching pad for Hollywood's top Industry power players. Mike also created and developed Universal's ultra exclusive VIP Experience and Tour, specially designed for A-list celebrities, heads of state, and other high profile guests.

Mike has become the ultimate Hollywood insider and is the world's top celebrity expert, his work being published by media outlets globally. Mike takes fans behind-the-scenes of Hollywood, and gives them an insider's view of pop culture (often breaking news!) on his smash hit Twitter feed @MikeSington. His personal life is featured on Instagram @mikesington.

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Loved the last line!!!

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
14. *shudder*
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:28 PM
May 2016

I've never seen them put together in the same graphic before. I don't know if I could watch the two of them on stage at a debate. It would look like the meat-lover's skillet at Denny's.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
18. The guy on the left in that photo
Wed May 4, 2016, 04:17 PM
May 2016

is as honest as the day is long. the one on the right is a CON man through and through

I'll hang with the honest guy, thank you.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
19. He added:
Wed May 4, 2016, 04:17 PM
May 2016

Mike Sington ?@MikeSington 5h5 hours ago Los Angeles, CA
Standing by tweet from months ago. Delegate lead seems insurmountable, but expect HC black swan event. #FeelTheBern

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