Military Times survey: Troops prefer Trump to Clinton by a huge margin

[TheSarcastinator]

Military Times survey: Troops prefer Trump to Clinton by a huge margin

http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/election/2016/05/09/military-times-survey-donald-trump-beats-hillary-clinton/84132402/

"In a new survey of American military personnel, Donald Trump emerged as active-duty service members' preference to become the next U.S. president, topping Hillary Clinton by more than a 2-to-1 margin. However, in the latest Military Times election survey, more than one in five troops said they’d rather not vote in November if they have to choose between just those two candidates.

But given only those choices, 21 percent of the service members surveyed said they would abstain from voting.More than 54 percent of the 951 troops Military Times surveyed said they would vote for Trump, the presumed Republican presidential nominee, over Clinton, the Democratic front-runner. Only about 25 percent said they would vote for Clinton in that matchup."

[Actor]

1. Sounds like Kansas, voting against their own survival.

[Lizzie Poppet]

10. Is Trump much more likely than Clinton to send those service people into war?

Her record argues that she might be no less likely. Trump has no record (in any meaningful way as far as this question is concerned). His buffoonish blustering doesn't inspire confidence, to be sure...but neither do Clinton's past actions. The obvious peace candidate is still in the race, of course...

[Actor]

13. Trump is better sounds like the meme here.

[Lizzie Poppet]

15. Definitely not my take (nor a reasoned reading of my post above).

I'm simply saying that in the specific area of likelihood of getting us involved in yet another war, Hillary might not be any better than Trump. It's not that Trump is better on this point...it's that Hillary has a damn poor record.

I think this is something a lot of military people have given thought to (which only makes sense: for many it's literally a life-and-death matter). Sure, some military folk are very conservative, and despising Hillary is kind of expected on the far right. But I give many plenty of credit in recognizing their enormous self-interest in the matter of a potentially hawkish president. What reason do they have to believe that Clinton is less likely than Trump to involve us in another pointless, discretionary war?

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. No, actually

expanded military means more promotions.

[lumberjack_jeff]

18. Neither candidate can be believed.

But the actions of one of them can be observed.

[msongs]

2. I am sure the military absolutely is looking forward to a female woman CIC...not nt

[JonLeibowitz]

4. Implying that the service men and women are sexist, because they don't like Hillary?

[apcalc]

3. They do love their authoritarian strong men.

[scscholar]

5. He'll be much more profitable for the military

Why wouldn't they support that?

[TimPlo]

16. Not sure what military you where in but

The one I was in we did not get a profit, we got paid and much much less than someone in civilian world.

[kimbutgar]

6. So I guess the troops are ok with trump bombing/ nuking the shit out of the middle east

I can only imagine the blowback from his bombastic talking points. But of course most in the militarily went straight out of high school and watched trump on celebrity apprentice so it doesn't surprise me they would support that cretin.

[Lizzie Poppet]

11. "most in the militarily went straight out of high school and watched trump on celebrity apprentice"

But of course most in the militarily went straight out of high school and watched trump on celebrity apprentice so it doesn't surprise me they would support that cretin.

Let me get this straight: "most in the military" are less-educated, unsophisticated folk easily influenced by shallow celebrity (and, presumably, bright shiny objects)?

Wow...

[pdsimdars]

7. Time after time, poll after poll, issue after issue. . . shows Hillary to be a weak candidate

and yet the DNC and the Hillary supporters ignore it all. What is wrong with those people?

[thesquanderer]

8. Worth noting... not a random sample, not a scientific poll.

The voluntary nature of this survey, the dependence on email and the characteristics of Military Times readers may affect the results. Statistical margins of error commonly reported in opinion polls that use random sampling can't be calculated for this survey

[rickford66]

9. There's a lot of Red State people in the service.

I'm a Vet. I served with a bunch of terrific guys 46 years ago. 95% are wing-nuts right now. After debating them on line for several years I can attest that their TV stays tuned to FOX. Present the facts and they change the subject.

[whatchamacallit]

14. They know they're fodder for her military adventuri$m

[lumberjack_jeff]

17. They prefer Sanders to Clinton by a comparable margin. n/t

[Jitter65]

19. One of the most stable parts of Rush Limbaugh's audience. Explains it all. They love draft dodgers

and chicken-hawks.