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CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
Mon May 9, 2016, 07:54 PM May 2016

Sidney Blumenthal On Hardball And Chris "Actually" Asked Him If He Was Interviewed By The FBI..

RE: The Clinton Server/Email Investigation by the FBI...

Sidney... "danced... ..." and talked about his desire for transparency. (whatever his definition of transparency is...) Sidney blathered but would not answer the question... Then, Chris asked Sidney again whether he was interviewed by the FBI... Sidney then ... "danced.." some more... and cobbled together his version of...

"I would prefer not to comment on an ongoing investigation..."


So... let's see just how transparent this entire "inquiry" into the clear violations of FOIA Laws, possible espionage as outlined in great detail here and elsewhere... fall into place when the likely transparent FBI report and/or request for indictment... (unlikely) are handed out.

No indictment does not vindicate or render w/o guilt for violations that would land the ordinary and unconnected in considerable legal peril... It just means that rules are only rules if they are applied equally to ALL.
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Sidney Blumenthal On Hardball And Chris "Actually" Asked Him If He Was Interviewed By The FBI.. (Original Post) CorporatistNation May 2016 OP
This was the guy giving advice to Hillary after Obama fired him? Skink May 2016 #1
Obama Strictly Forbade Hillary From Employing Sidney... She Did So Against His Orders... CorporatistNation May 2016 #4
He did not forbid her from getting advice from Blumenthal. That's 2-dimensional thinking. randome May 2016 #10
Why did she keep it secret from Obama and everyone else then, if it was okie-dokie? polly7 May 2016 #19
Who says she kept it a secret? Even if she did, he was HER advisor, not Obama's. randome May 2016 #21
I'd need a link to wherever you're getting your info that Obama knew. polly7 May 2016 #22
I would think a cabinet position is somewhat on par with a regional manager. randome May 2016 #23
LMAO. nt. polly7 May 2016 #24
That's some serious pretzel-twisting "logic" farleftlib May 2016 #98
are you implicating Obama in this? grasswire May 2016 #33
Implicating him in what? What kind of moebius strip of logic are you on? randome May 2016 #42
Sidney Was Behind Much Of Hillary's Nasty Campaigning in 2007-'08, Hence Obama Made It Clear CorporatistNation May 2016 #51
Yet he's practically endorsed Clinton for President. That doesn't sound like it's a big deal to him. randome May 2016 #64
Yes, but Hillary, as Secretary of State, serves at the pleasure of the President CoffeeCat May 2016 #78
Has the President said he's displeased with her over this? No? Then case closed. randome May 2016 #90
Actually, the case is very open and the FBI has been investigating for a year now CoffeeCat May 2016 #96
How FOS Can You Possibly Be? UFB! CorporatistNation May 2016 #105
So what is illegal about getting advice from Blumenthal? randome May 2016 #106
The Sharing Of Classified Information... Back And Forth On Your Home Server UnSecured As SOS... CorporatistNation May 2016 #109
Oh come on!! lol,this pissed Obama off royally.She snuck around,behind Obamas back to do it! wendylaroux May 2016 #26
Why do you think he was pissed off? randome May 2016 #30
Did You Ever Hear The Saying 'Don't Get Mad - Get Even'..... global1 May 2016 #62
I thought this was very interesting... CoffeeCat May 2016 #81
When he offered Hillary SOS he said NO SID, NO ADVICE FROM SID. I'm not HIRING SID. ViseGrip May 2016 #77
And yet he isn't. Case closed. randome May 2016 #91
Obama hated this guy,told clinton NO WAY to hiring him,which says alot, wendylaroux May 2016 #87
Your Description of Hillary's Behavior In This Instance Is Defined As... Deviously Going Behind... CorporatistNation May 2016 #38
Are you saying that Obama personally approved all her aides & interns & dictated who she spoke with? randome May 2016 #44
He specifically said and dictated no Blumenthall. HooptieWagon May 2016 #58
Yet Obama has, for all intents and purposes, endorsed Clinton for President. randome May 2016 #65
No, he's not made an endorsement during the primary. HooptieWagon May 2016 #70
"...for all intents and purposes..." randome May 2016 #71
Of Course... We Have Yet To See IF... It Matters If She DID Break The Law... Likely As Not She DID.. CorporatistNation May 2016 #73
On top of using Blumenthal as an advisor... tex-wyo-dem May 2016 #80
He might but he clearly isn't. randome May 2016 #92
Blumenthal apparently had financial interests... tex-wyo-dem May 2016 #99
A bit of a nitpick... Hare Krishna May 2016 #95
Stupid autocorrect :P tex-wyo-dem May 2016 #97
So she gets a pass on that because a technicality? Peachhead22 May 2016 #76
How do you fire someone who wasn't employed there in the first place? randome May 2016 #89
Well OK Peachhead22 May 2016 #94
BULLSHIT I CALL THIS! Obama specifically said I don't want Sid advising you, even though he has for ViseGrip May 2016 #104
How do you know what Obama's words were to her in this respect? randome May 2016 #107
He was paid by the Clinton Foundation. What he did was perfectly legal. hedda_foil May 2016 #28
Blumenthal was feeding highly sensitive (confidential) info to Hillary... tex-wyo-dem May 2016 #83
He didn't get the info through official channels. He had his own source. hedda_foil May 2016 #86
Certainly, ONE MORE EXAMPLE Of ... Her EXTREMELY POOR JUDGEMENT AND Her LAZINESS! CorporatistNation May 2016 #93
The $10,000 per month came from The Clinton Foundation too. PufPuf23 May 2016 #31
I just wondered what the Clinton Foundation would gain from a destroyed Libya and polly7 May 2016 #32
the point is that Blumenthal was going to profit from a destroyed Libya!!! grasswire May 2016 #35
That makes sense, but why would she jeopardize her position and national security polly7 May 2016 #39
the Clintons are addicted to reckless narcissistic behavior. grasswire May 2016 #41
They sure do seem to be. polly7 May 2016 #43
Shades of Ahmed Chalabi Peachhead22 May 2016 #79
Here is some off the cuff speculating. PufPuf23 May 2016 #49
Thanks very much. polly7 May 2016 #55
Pretty much like Cheney / Haliburton / Must Invade Iraq and then the rest of the M.E. 2banon May 2016 #67
I believe that's part of it. nt grasswire May 2016 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #61
This was the (Clinton Found. employee civilian with no clearance) guy collecting leaks from the CIA HereSince1628 May 2016 #12
Have you ever been interviewed by law enforcement? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #2
I think that's the point op is trying to make NWCorona May 2016 #6
No ... That's the opposite point the OP is trying to make ... transparancy, and all. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #63
What, Wut? I've been interviewed, but never told NOT to tell anyone about being questioned. ebayfool May 2016 #15
Don't tell me it was for trading nuclear secrets on Ebay Skink May 2016 #48
Hahaha! Nope. I live in a very drug-ridden, high crime neighborhood. And have a big mouth. ebayfool May 2016 #56
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #66
Welp, 45 years of real life experience says I'm not ... ebayfool May 2016 #68
I apologize ... I keep forgetting that we are on the internet ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #69
"... where prosecutorial procedure is different." ebayfool May 2016 #72
Sidney Was Oh So... Inadvertantly "Transparent.." Of Course He Was Interviewed... His Response Was CorporatistNation May 2016 #17
Bernie Sanders isnt going to be the Democratic nominee. JaneyVee May 2016 #3
As The Great Allman Brothers Song Goes... "It Ain't Over Yet! CorporatistNation May 2016 #5
Had to hear... 4139 May 2016 #7
+1, This needs to be said over and over again, they're hurt reality is going to hard uponit7771 May 2016 #8
Hi Again! Seems Whereever I Go... You Are Sure To Follow! Hmmm... Wonder Why? CorporatistNation May 2016 #13
Cause Sanders fans are funny? jus throwin it out there uponit7771 May 2016 #29
Hillary "Fans" Are Funnie In A Manner That Is Antithetical To The Term! Just Hillaryous! CorporatistNation May 2016 #45
lol...whatever uponit7771 May 2016 #47
It's looking more and more like Hillary won't be either. NWCorona May 2016 #9
A Very Telling Reply: That's All You Care About, Isn't It? Chasstev365 May 2016 #27
You Just Described The Crux Of The Issue With Hillary... She IS THE ONE... Irrespective of ANYTHING CorporatistNation May 2016 #54
Imo, they'd jump down first to catch her .. polly7 May 2016 #59
He probably plead the 5th 4139 May 2016 #11
Or refused to show up. NWCorona May 2016 #14
Whose idea was it to set up the server? My money is on Sid... 4139 May 2016 #20
Bill Clinton. You will find that it was his people. FlatBaroque May 2016 #25
I doubt it was sid. HooptieWagon May 2016 #36
9th Grade Level Deviousness As GroupThink! CorporatistNation May 2016 #46
Here's the video NWCorona May 2016 #16
THANKS... IT IS IN A WORD... HILLARYOUS! CorporatistNation May 2016 #18
he changed the word "investigation" to "inquiry" very carefully. grasswire May 2016 #40
Sidney Presents As Being of A Somewhat Soft Physical And Emotional "Constitution.." CorporatistNation May 2016 #50
he would not grasswire May 2016 #52
Of course he's nervous hootinholler May 2016 #53
Wow. That's some transparency there... demwing May 2016 #57
Interesting! HooptieWagon May 2016 #34
Did he tell the FBI that "I would prefer not to comment on an ongoing investigation..." ? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #37
Inspirational! H2O Man May 2016 #60
Spot on....well said. Important to get the facts straight now. ViseGrip May 2016 #74
And remember, Obama told Hillary, NO SID, he was NOT going to hire him, NO ADVICE FROM SID ViseGrip May 2016 #75
and that's what burns me the most grasswire May 2016 #84
I hope Camp Weathervane wind direction analysts democrank May 2016 #85
Which of the FOIA laws carry criminal penalties? pnwmom May 2016 #88
People seem to be skipping over the $10,000 a month from the Clinton Foundation quite easily Kentonio May 2016 #100
Great point. nt. polly7 May 2016 #102
Google Brock Blumenthal. merrily May 2016 #101
Obama said I'm not hiring him, and I don't want him advising you. Hillary agreed, but she lied. ViseGrip May 2016 #103
So True..! KoKo May 2016 #108
Yep, and no one talks about this! Not even Obama! ViseGrip May 2016 #110

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
4. Obama Strictly Forbade Hillary From Employing Sidney... She Did So Against His Orders...
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:01 PM
May 2016

Paying him $10,000 per month... He was the one who gave her the idea to go into Libya... Guccifer... who is the Romanian hacker who hacked into Sidney's and by definition Hillary's emails is currently being interviewed by the FBI. There is another post about this on DU currently... "Shadow" Govt. behind the curtain Sidney and Hillary... running Foreign Policy... Behind Obama's back! And against Obama's orders at that to boot!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. He did not forbid her from getting advice from Blumenthal. That's 2-dimensional thinking.
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:10 PM
May 2016

He prevented him from being on the State Department's payroll. Clinton decided she wanted his advice, anyways so...

A President does not micro-manage the State Department.
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polly7

(20,582 posts)
19. Why did she keep it secret from Obama and everyone else then, if it was okie-dokie?
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:23 PM
May 2016


You're saying Obama really didn't want him near the SD, yet had no problem with him secretly advising Clinton on the ruin of a sovereign nation while she was pushing Obama on it?
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
21. Who says she kept it a secret? Even if she did, he was HER advisor, not Obama's.
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:25 PM
May 2016

Apparently Obama was okay with it. Has he ever expressed anger?

And what do you have to support the idea that "he didn't want him anywhere near the SD" -other than your own bias to see what you want to see?
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polly7

(20,582 posts)
22. I'd need a link to wherever you're getting your info that Obama knew.
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:27 PM
May 2016

Can any gov't official just hire any old civilian off the street without a security clearance to use to plan with to destroy sovereign nations and share sensitive information that includes the safety of human lives? Somehow, I thought that might be a bit more strict. But then, what do I know.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
23. I would think a cabinet position is somewhat on par with a regional manager.
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:35 PM
May 2016

You have a lot of leeway to hire your own people and conduct your own business so long as it doesn't conflict with the broader goals of the Administration. That's just my guess on how these type of positions work.

And I didn't say that Obama knew. I said there is no evidence that he was angry at Clinton because of it. Hell, he's pretty much endorsed her for President already. That doesn't sound like someone who thinks he was 'betrayed' by someone who went behind his back.
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farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
98. That's some serious pretzel-twisting "logic"
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:10 AM
May 2016

you've got going on there. No means No. And PBO would never air his anger
at Clinton in the public domain. Seriously. Stop.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
42. Implicating him in what? What kind of moebius strip of logic are you on?
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:10 PM
May 2016

A SOS can conduct her business and hire anyone she wants so long as she abides by the goals of the Administration. If the manager doesn't care that she got advice from Blumenthal -and we've seen no evidence that he did- then why would you want to make this out to be some slap in the face to him?
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CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
51. Sidney Was Behind Much Of Hillary's Nasty Campaigning in 2007-'08, Hence Obama Made It Clear
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:28 PM
May 2016

to Hillary when she was appointed SOS that Sidney was NOT going to be part of the program... which she violated by going around Obamaand paying Sidney through the Clinton Foundation... er what is otherwise thought to be a Big Time "Laundry" operation...

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
64. Yet he's practically endorsed Clinton for President. That doesn't sound like it's a big deal to him.
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:20 PM
May 2016

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CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
78. Yes, but Hillary, as Secretary of State, serves at the pleasure of the President
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:24 PM
May 2016

Clinton was one of his cabinet members. She was not a freelancer. She had a job to do, but she was serving Obama's White House.

This is from Politico. The message is similar to what has been extensively said--That Obama wanted nothing to do with Blumenthal. Clinton asked Obama if Blumenthal could be one of her advisers. Obama said no.

From Politico:

Yet, as the Benghazi emails show, Blumenthal and Clinton managed to work together anyway, in typical over-the-transom fashion. One could hear the you-can’t-stop-me in Clinton’s voice Tuesday when she defended the correspondence: “He sent me unsolicited emails which I passed on in some instances, and I say that that’s just part of the give and take.”

The first tranche of emails, revealed Thursday by The New York Times, shows the danger of this sort of informal arrangement: Blumenthal sent then-Secretary Clinton a memo a day after the Benghazi attack claiming that the murderous mob was part of a wave of protests against a YouTube video that had prompted an attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Cairo. Clinton forwarded the email to Jake Sullivan, a top foreign policy adviser, requesting “More info.”

But the emails also show that Republicans’ hoped-for smoking gun is, at least so far, nowhere to be found: Sullivan responded politely but noncommittally to most of the Blumenthal emails and forwarded the information, at Clinton’s request, to the appropriate State Department specialists. There they seem to have died.

Despite the fact that Clinton doesn’t name Blumenthal as her source in the emails, two former administration officials told POLITICO that Sullivan, who now serves as the Clinton campaign’s policy czar, knew very well that he was her source and that he resented Blumenthal’s freelancing.

“Jake was too nice to tell the secretary what he really thought,” said one former senior national security official. “But he was really pissed off that Sid was wasting everybody’s time.”

Still, Sullivan is discovering what other Clinton hirelings have known for years: Bill and Hillary think Sid’s time, advice and dish are yet valuable.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-118212#ixzz48DftP3wr
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
90. Has the President said he's displeased with her over this? No? Then case closed.
Tue May 10, 2016, 07:05 AM
May 2016

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CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
96. Actually, the case is very open and the FBI has been investigating for a year now
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:32 AM
May 2016

We most likely will know what kind of case the FBI has within the next 8 weeks.

Which is nice, because our entire Democratic party needs this wrapped up.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
105. How FOS Can You Possibly Be? UFB!
Tue May 10, 2016, 06:30 PM
May 2016

Your point... "Hillary can, will and HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING WRONG... MUCH LESS COMPLETELY ILLEGAL OR... EVEN PERHAPS INADVERTENTLY TRAITOROUS!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
106. So what is illegal about getting advice from Blumenthal?
Tue May 10, 2016, 06:38 PM
May 2016

And I have never said Clinton is perfect. To the contrary, I've said many times that I don't particularly like her and wish someone else would be our next President.

But the email-gasms from the ever-whining Sanders supporters is definitely worthy of ridicule.
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CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
109. The Sharing Of Classified Information... Back And Forth On Your Home Server UnSecured As SOS...
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:48 PM
May 2016

Sidney had NO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT Clearance! Thus, Hillary had NO business discussing FOREIGN FUCKING POLICY WOTH THIS KLOWN PRIVATE CITIZEN!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
30. Why do you think he was pissed off?
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:55 PM
May 2016

Seems like an odd conclusion to draw about someone who has essentially endorsed Clinton for President. I don't know where you get 'pissed off' from.
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global1

(25,166 posts)
62. Did You Ever Hear The Saying 'Don't Get Mad - Get Even'.....
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:16 PM
May 2016

On the surface it might look like he's not pissed at her (don't get mad) - but in the background maybe he's has the DOJ ready to deal with her (get even). This way none of his fingerprints are on her downfall. She did this to herself.

We'll have to wait and see how this plays out.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
81. I thought this was very interesting...
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:32 PM
May 2016

Executive Order 13526 and 18 U.S.C Sec. 793(f) of the federal code make it unlawful to send or store classified information on personal email.

President Obama issued this executive order on Dec 29, 2009.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
77. When he offered Hillary SOS he said NO SID, NO ADVICE FROM SID. I'm not HIRING SID.
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:22 PM
May 2016

She promised him. That is why he should be angry. It's legal, but a betrayal. Not someone you'd keep as a friend, or employee, because you just cannot trust them. Hillary proved this. The President has a right to be pissed.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
91. And yet he isn't. Case closed.
Tue May 10, 2016, 07:06 AM
May 2016

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wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
87. Obama hated this guy,told clinton NO WAY to hiring him,which says alot,
Tue May 10, 2016, 04:41 AM
May 2016

since Obama let her do whatever she wanted the rest of the time.

And of course he is endorsing her,they are both standard fare of the now right of center dems.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
38. Your Description of Hillary's Behavior In This Instance Is Defined As... Deviously Going Behind...
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:08 PM
May 2016
Obama's Back!

Just one more shining example of Hillary's personal "character..."
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
44. Are you saying that Obama personally approved all her aides & interns & dictated who she spoke with?
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:16 PM
May 2016

If the CEO doesn't say that an underling disrespected him, then where do you get off saying he was disrespected?
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HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
58. He specifically said and dictated no Blumenthall.
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:02 PM
May 2016

Clinton went behind his back and hired him through the Foundation. What charity work did Blumenthall do for the Foundation?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
65. Yet Obama has, for all intents and purposes, endorsed Clinton for President.
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:21 PM
May 2016

If he's not upset about this, who are you to say he should be?

And I don't know how the Clinton Foundation categorized Blumenthal. It's a public, not a private, charity, so I'm sure, absent evidence to the contrary, that he 'fit in' with their work in some way. Maybe it was a loophole that allowed him to be part of the Foundation. I don't know and I don't particularly care. If Clinton wants to do things her way, more power to her -unless she breaks the law, of course.
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HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
70. No, he's not made an endorsement during the primary.
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:34 PM
May 2016

My, you Hillarians sure have active imaginations.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
71. "...for all intents and purposes..."
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:42 PM
May 2016

He doesn't seem mad to me, that's all I'm saying. It seems to me that you want him to be, but that's your conundrum, not mine.
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CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
73. Of Course... We Have Yet To See IF... It Matters If She DID Break The Law... Likely As Not She DID..
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:57 PM
May 2016

But... So much for there being "consequences" levied upon her... One set of laws for us and one set of laws for....

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
80. On top of using Blumenthal as an advisor...
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:31 PM
May 2016

Without Obama's knowledge, it's now well known that Sid was feeding Clinton confidential information on Lybia, even though he had no security clearance himself. Then Clinton pressured Obama to overthrow Qaddafi in part based on the Blumenthal info...Obama has now publicaly said that Lybia is one of his biggest regrets.

So if you don't think Obama might be pissed about this, then...

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
92. He might but he clearly isn't.
Tue May 10, 2016, 07:08 AM
May 2016

And do you seriously think Clinton had no other sources of information available to her? Or are you insisting that Blumenthal was practically running the State Dept?
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tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
99. Blumenthal apparently had financial interests...
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:11 AM
May 2016

In post Qaddafi Libya...not a stretch to think the Clinton Foundation did as well, so the impetus for the overthrow may have had little to do with national security.

Obviously, Obama has a very good poker face...he rarely gives away his intentions on controversial issues. He has stated support for Clinton on the email issue, then in the same breath said the investigation will be allowed to run its course and not be interfered with or politicized.

His famous 3D chess game.

Peachhead22

(1,077 posts)
76. So she gets a pass on that because a technicality?
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:15 PM
May 2016

That's the kind of "logic" a teenager uses when they're caught doing something they shouldn't.

Imaginary Hillary: "But Mr. President you fired him. You didn't specifically tell me I couldn't consult him on classified stuff and pay him out of my own pocket."

If the President fired Blumenthal it wasn't just because it was a fun thing to do or to save the gov't his salary..

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
89. How do you fire someone who wasn't employed there in the first place?
Tue May 10, 2016, 07:04 AM
May 2016

And how do you know how Obama and Clinton discussed the issue? Again, if the President doesn't say he's mad about this (and practically endorsing Clinton for President is pretty strong evidence that he is not), who are we to say he should be?
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Peachhead22

(1,077 posts)
94. Well OK
Tue May 10, 2016, 07:45 AM
May 2016

Maybe not fired, but told in no uncertain terms that he was persona non grata. It's a distintion without a major difference.

The President said "No way to Blumenthal" and Hillary's gonna go with "Well you didn't specifically tell _me_ not to hire him. If the President "doesn't micromanage" the State Dept as you say Hillary could have just openly hired him. Like I said before: If Hillary had nothing to hide, why was she hiding it?

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
104. BULLSHIT I CALL THIS! Obama specifically said I don't want Sid advising you, even though he has for
Tue May 10, 2016, 02:26 PM
May 2016

years, for you and Bill. I'm not hiring him. Not even anywhere in the state dept. So there will be no reason. Hillary AGREED!! Liar liar pants on fire.

She betrayed Obama....he DID say he DID NOT WANT SID ADVISING HER.

This has been written and reported. I won't even bother to get a link. For you to say he did not forbid her, she had to agree to be the SOS.....THOSE WERE OBAMA'S TERMS FOR HER.

gads....

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
107. How do you know what Obama's words were to her in this respect?
Tue May 10, 2016, 06:41 PM
May 2016

Were you there when they spoke? How do you know he used the words "I don't want Sid advising you"? You just made that up, didn't you?

And if Obama does not appear to be 'betrayed', why do you insist he should?
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hedda_foil

(16,368 posts)
28. He was paid by the Clinton Foundation. What he did was perfectly legal.
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:51 PM
May 2016

What Hillary did probably was not.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
83. Blumenthal was feeding highly sensitive (confidential) info to Hillary...
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:37 PM
May 2016

Syd had no security clearance.

That is not legal.

hedda_foil

(16,368 posts)
86. He didn't get the info through official channels. He had his own source.
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:15 AM
May 2016

No doubt she could have gotten more accurate and unbiased intelligence from her own people at State, along with DOD and CIA. Her unfathomable reliance on what Sid could get from his ex CIA pal, rather than the intelligence services she could avail herself of by virtue of her position is unfathomable.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
93. Certainly, ONE MORE EXAMPLE Of ... Her EXTREMELY POOR JUDGEMENT AND Her LAZINESS!
Tue May 10, 2016, 07:13 AM
May 2016

Not the epitome of the characteristics one should want in a... PRESIDENT!

PufPuf23

(8,687 posts)
31. The $10,000 per month came from The Clinton Foundation too.
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:58 PM
May 2016

Blumenthal and Libya and Hillary Clinton is more icky in substance than Hillary Clinton with a private server at her home for State Department emails followed by associated dodges.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
32. I just wondered what the Clinton Foundation would gain from a destroyed Libya and
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:02 PM
May 2016

regime change. Otherwise, why would she have gone behind Obama's back and pushed for this using someone he'd blacklisted. Should the Clinton Foundation have been involved in any country she had dealings with as SoS in the first place?

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
35. the point is that Blumenthal was going to profit from a destroyed Libya!!!
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:04 PM
May 2016

...and his "source" -- a former CIA op working to gin up his own business in Libya too.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
39. That makes sense, but why would she jeopardize her position and national security
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:08 PM
May 2016

if the Foundation didn't have something to gain, also? Or was getting his information the only way she could push Obama forward on Libya?

PufPuf23

(8,687 posts)
49. Here is some off the cuff speculating.
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:23 PM
May 2016

Libya had the strongest economy in Africa, an egalitarian socialist dictatorship.

Freedoms and economic blessings for the individual had evolved to be similar to the West.

Gadaffi had mellowed away from terrorism and confrontation to nationalism and cooperation but independence.

Al Qaeda was strong in east Libya and a thorn to Gadaffi; Al Qaeda was also covertly backed by the Saudis and western intelligence in Libya and just about any where there has been strife in the Middle East.

Gadaffi was also in talks with Russia regards of a second Russian naval / airbase on the Mediterranean Sea.

Western corporations especially oil and gas saw low hanging fruit in Libya.

The Saudis are one of the biggest donators to The Clinton Foundation; more and more apparent to replace the relationship between Saudi and Bushes.

The ways were many that Hillary Clinton had conflicts of interest as SOS and principal in The Clinton Foundation; specifically fostering private business interests and for the purposes of another sovereign nation in conflict with duty as SOS.

No body really knows the specific actions and scope of what Hillary Clinton did as SOS in Libya and Clinton means to keep specifics hidden so as to maintain status quo and responsibility dodged by Clinton (the fog oozed from the needless Benghazi hearings is but a convenient smoke screen).

Note that the Libya intervention already addressed an opening in the re-born competition between the USA and Russia.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
55. Thanks very much.
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:38 PM
May 2016

I know that Saudi Arabia is dead set against Iran becoming an economic powerhouse as SA's dominance in the region is threatened by falling oil prices, the growing popularity of renewable energy. I believe the same probably applied wrt a functioning Libya owning those vast oil and water reserves Quid pro quo, I'm sure. Especially considering the shady weapons sales through the Foundation. I'd love to know how much of a part SA played in it. Of course I could be completely mistaken about all of it. One thing I do know for sure though .......... Libya was a lying atrocity.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
67. Pretty much like Cheney / Haliburton / Must Invade Iraq and then the rest of the M.E.
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:25 PM
May 2016

so obvious to EVERYONE ON DU. We yammered on about that outrage forever.

But it's different if it's a Dem and the name is Clinton.

Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #4)

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
12. This was the (Clinton Found. employee civilian with no clearance) guy collecting leaks from the CIA
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:17 PM
May 2016

Last edited Mon May 9, 2016, 08:53 PM - Edit history (1)

and sending them on to the SOS. Who because she knew they were leaks, has a problem. She was obliged to make known her knowledge of the leaks, but she didn't. Instead she encouraged him to keep encouraging leaks and sending them on

His ass should be in the blender under usual security and espionage laws

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
2. Have you ever been interviewed by law enforcement? ...
Mon May 9, 2016, 07:57 PM
May 2016

The first, and last, thing they tell you is a piece about the need for confidentiality and to NOT talk about whether or not you have been interviewed.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
6. I think that's the point op is trying to make
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:07 PM
May 2016

But it would be foolish to think that he wouldn't be brought in.

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
15. What, Wut? I've been interviewed, but never told NOT to tell anyone about being questioned.
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:20 PM
May 2016

Why would that be a standard? I've been told, rather forcibly, that I better show up to testify cuz the case required it, but never to keep it a secret.

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
56. Hahaha! Nope. I live in a very drug-ridden, high crime neighborhood. And have a big mouth.
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:39 PM
May 2016

There has been an occasion or two, the cops prolly shoulda told me to keep it quiet! Bad enough around here that my son in law doesn't let the kids come to my house - I go to theirs. And he is right.

Once you hit my age, the encounters with cops add up. Including the hearing for a cop that I slapped the shit out of for groping me during a traffic stop. He had a hard time explaining to his superiors just why he was in my vicinity every time they looked for him. Nowadays? I'd probably be dead for that. He got fired.

But never have been told to keep it quiet.

Response to ebayfool (Reply #15)

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
68. Welp, 45 years of real life experience says I'm not ...
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:25 PM
May 2016

but have at it. Why so venomous? Personal attack for not having the same meat world experiences as you? Really?

NEVER had any law enforcement say keep it a secret. Ever. Deal.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
69. I apologize ... I keep forgetting that we are on the internet ...
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:32 PM
May 2016

where prosecutorial procedure is different.

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
72. "... where prosecutorial procedure is different."
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:45 PM
May 2016

Well, I suppose that's a nicer way of saying I'm full of shit. I'll take it.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
17. Sidney Was Oh So... Inadvertantly "Transparent.." Of Course He Was Interviewed... His Response Was
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:21 PM
May 2016

LAUGHABLE... In BOTH character AND Content!

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
27. A Very Telling Reply: That's All You Care About, Isn't It?
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:50 PM
May 2016

Doesn't matter how unethical she was, ad long as she wins. How did you lose all sense of objectivity?

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
54. You Just Described The Crux Of The Issue With Hillary... She IS THE ONE... Irrespective of ANYTHING
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:34 PM
May 2016

she has ever said, done, concocted, flip flopped and flipped and flopped again... CHEATED... Whether she gets $$$ from Bush people... whatever... Her faithful lemmings are right there on schedule to jump off the cliff right along with her...

polly7

(20,582 posts)
59. Imo, they'd jump down first to catch her ..
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:05 PM
May 2016

then wait to be thrown down rope ladders only to find out they were 20 ft. too short.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
25. Bill Clinton. You will find that it was his people.
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:42 PM
May 2016

Their intent was pretty obvious given that he accidentally failed to disclose many foreign donatoins which he was prohibited from receiving.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
36. I doubt it was sid.
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:06 PM
May 2016

The secrecy is Classic Clinton. The decision was probably a combination of Bill, Hillary, and top aides like Abedin.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
40. he changed the word "investigation" to "inquiry" very carefully.
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:08 PM
May 2016

He's not as slick as Hillary, and he looks pretty nervous.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
50. Sidney Presents As Being of A Somewhat Soft Physical And Emotional "Constitution.."
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:23 PM
May 2016

He could well be the one who spills... his gutz to save himself quicker and more completely than anyone else. I doubt that he would fare well in a Federal Pen...

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
53. Of course he's nervous
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:33 PM
May 2016

He's about to be charged with felony possession of highly classified information.

One question is did Hillary report it when he sent it to her? She has an obligation to report these things.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
57. Wow. That's some transparency there...
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:55 PM
May 2016
Direct Question: "Have you been interviewed by the FBI?"

Stuttering Answer: "Here's how I feel...Tossed Word Salad...blah blah blah...transparency."

Repeat Direct Question: "But have you been interviewed by the FBI?"

Answer: "I would prefer not to comment on an ongoing investigation"


That's some transparent transparency there. It was so clearly bullshit that you could see right through it!

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
34. Interesting!
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:03 PM
May 2016

Reasonable to assume his dancing around the question means yes. He didn't have anything to do with setting up the secret server or deleting emails. Which leaves these subjects the FBI was questioning about:

Exchanging of classified information.
His own email being hacked.
Foundation business.

We don't know his answers, or if he pled the 5th.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
37. Did he tell the FBI that "I would prefer not to comment on an ongoing investigation..." ?
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:07 PM
May 2016

If so, how did they respond?

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
75. And remember, Obama told Hillary, NO SID, he was NOT going to hire him, NO ADVICE FROM SID
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:03 PM
May 2016

on and on and on. She didn't even give a shit!

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
84. and that's what burns me the most
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:39 PM
May 2016

For her own devious purposes, she risked Obama's administration and his legacy by hiding her private server and running a rogue foreign policy on it.

She either thought so little of Obama or so highly of herself that she simply went rogue on him.

democrank

(11,052 posts)
85. I hope Camp Weathervane wind direction analysts
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:28 AM
May 2016

can get right on this before some media person mentions that old saying about how we`re judged by the company we keep.

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
88. Which of the FOIA laws carry criminal penalties?
Tue May 10, 2016, 04:57 AM
May 2016

The FBI only investigates criminal matters.

And what is this garbage about "espionage outlined in great detail here and elsewhere"? What wing-nut site did you draw your quote from?

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
100. People seem to be skipping over the $10,000 a month from the Clinton Foundation quite easily
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:50 AM
May 2016

What exactly was Sidney Blumenthal doing for the Clinton Foundation that qualified him to receive $10,000 of charity money every month? Or was the Clinton Foundation actually just treated as a Clinton slush fund?

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
103. Obama said I'm not hiring him, and I don't want him advising you. Hillary agreed, but she lied.
Tue May 10, 2016, 02:19 PM
May 2016

She lied to Obama. AND...she paid him! But she paid him from her own company, er, a 'foundation'.

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