2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSanders: We're 'fighting for the soul of the Democratic Party'
link to Sanders: We're 'fighting for the soul of the Democratic Party'; excerpt:
Were also fighting for the soul of the Democratic Party, whether the Democratic Party remains dependent on Wall Street contributions or whether we move in the direction" of the Sanders campaign, he said Wednesday evening on WABC Radio's "Election Central with Rita Cosby," touting his more than 7 million individual contributions.
Members of Democratic establishment, he said, are "not enthusiastic about my candidacy and are certainly not overjoyed by the fact that we have now won 19 states and are poised to win even more."... Sanders remarked upon "a philosophical difference of opinion, a strong difference of opinion" within the party as its superdelegates decide between him and Clinton. "Do we fight for working families, do we work with working families, do we bring them into the Democratic Party or do we remain more dependent than we should on big-money interests? he said.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)dubyadiprecession
(5,678 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)msongs
(67,360 posts)Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)Kind of a long "flash"
WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Please stay off the socialist roads. Use only toll roads
Stay out of libraries: You probably wonder what libraries are?
Don't call the socialist cops for help, ever
Don't expect the military to fight your wars: do it yourself
Don't ever depend on any of the government to do a damn thing for you.
Move to Somalia to be happy!
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)Sometimes, there is very little difference ...
QC
(26,371 posts)Conservatives used to really stand out around here, but now it's hard to say if one is dealing with a visiting freeper or a Sensible Pragmatic Centrist®. Who can tell?
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)The arguments I've had with them here are the same arguments I have with my republican friends and acquaintances.
it's uncanny.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)dchill
(38,441 posts)Socialism="We're all in this together."
You, I take it, don't agree.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)mooseprime
(474 posts)reanimation to me.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)One has to wonder: are these unfortunates getting paid to post indefensible garbage, or is this someone who truly believes such drivel.
Sad, either way...
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Mrs Clinton
grasswire
(50,130 posts)The party of HER.
Vote2016
(1,198 posts)Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)You should stop pretending you care about anyone but yourself because you don't...the soul of the Dem party...nice excuse for helping Trump.
Vote2016
(1,198 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)I'm sure he will confirm and thank Hillary.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)90 days before the convention and she was much closer...and it was McCain not Trump the terrible. She also did not bash the party and softened criticism when it became likely she would lose.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)after invoking this
Vote2016
(1,198 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I feel I am back in Mexico at times...or worst
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)It gave that up when it went all in for Billary Clinton who is so close to being a Neocon that I have worries that we will be in another war in her first year as President.
Its almost like they want to lose.
Do we get 4 years of Hillary followed by 8 years of a Republican or do we get 4 years of Trump followed by 8 years of a Democrat.
Its a legitimate worry/question.
She is the only candidate out there that people hate almost as much as Trump and that is not enough to win.
Vote2016
(1,198 posts)Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)And you know your lack of knowledge is appalling...Clinton saved us from I don't know how many years of GOP presidents...with a bit of help from Perot. You act like progressive could win in 92 ...they couldn't ...the age of the Reagan Democrat. Without Clinton , Roe V Wade would be gone...we also had prosperity and taxes were raised...budget was good...so try to think about the reality of the situation and not the cut and paste nonsense posted here.
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)Don't ask don't tell, Repealed The Glass-Steagall Act. Nafta.
Hell you act like he was perfect.
Bill did start a war.
A war on the working man.
A war on Industry while riding a credit bubble and a dot.com boom.
Give me a gawd damn break..
Watch Capitalism: a love story.
And BTW I find your lack of memory appalling.
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)Bernie voted for credit default swaps you know. And don't ask don't tell was supposed to help gays in the military but of course, the Bushies allowed it to be used against people. Do you think the GOP would have done better? Clinton also raised taxes. You judge him now when in 92 Reagan was still a God... he still won when no one thought a Democrat could...so spared me your seriously ignorant rants about Clinton.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)For me it's FDR not the Corporate elite eternal war crowd.
The Clintons (and others) rammed the Party in to a Faustian deal back in the 80's. The Global Corporate elite want their due now
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,282 posts)Thanks for the thread, Attorney in Texas.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)coming from the guy who despised the party for decades, and has been trying to dismantle it.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)Before clinton became pres. the democratic party moved right b/c of fear we would have another 12 yrs. of republican B/S.
Clinton said, sure our party will move hard right so we can get wall street money and bust unions!!
Yes Bill said lets bust all the unions in america!!!!
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)Before this, from 1932-1976, the Democratic Party as a whole was far more progressive. The issues and approaches advocated today by Bernie Sanders were considered mainstream Democratic ideas by Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, and Lyndon Johnson, and even many moderate Republicans. It was common to support strict financial regulation, liberal immigration, social services for the poor, and progressive tax policies.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tony-brasunas/there-is-a-moderate-republican-in-this-race_b_9704194.html
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Merci Beaucoups
Vote2016
(1,198 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Sparkly
(24,147 posts)I thought peace, tolerance and the good of the community were central themes...
He works with anger the way Trump does.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)I'm not a religious person, but I was raised religious and know the Bible well, and Hillary reminds me of Revelation 3:16:
So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Sparkly
(24,147 posts)as well as fundamentalism and other absolutism -- when one is positive of the one and only way forward, and anything else is evil.