2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton Server Possibilities are Endless
1. Maybe she set the home server up it because she was paranoid about State Department or other government IT/security people having access to information that could be used politically against her. She took her chances with hackers, foreign and domestic.
--1 (a). Maybe foreign hackers got in and real damage was done.
--1(b). Maybe Republicans got in and the Obama DOJ is about to lower the boom on them.
--1 (c). Maybe both Republicans and foreigners got in and and the DOJ can't go after the political hackers without divulging the sensitive information leaked in open court.
--1(d). Maybe people from a government agency got in and a debate is going on whether the wrongdoing of the agency was greater than wrongdoing shown in the e-mails, or in setting the server up in the first place.
2. Maybe it was all a sting in the first place and there was fake information on the server. A honey pot to plant disinformation for foreign hackers. She was cooperating.
--2(a). Maybe Republicans operative(s) hacked in and saw some of the fake information as political ammo to be used in the fall.
----2(a)(1). Maybe the DOJ can't go after the political hackers without divulging the sensitive information as false.
I wouldn't assume anything. The possibilities are almost endless.

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Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Underground, I dont dare say it or I will be censored.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Underground, I dont dare say it or I will be censored.
Noted that you agree that liberals dont belong here
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Edit: you noted wrong.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)As most of the people's lives he will destroy are employed, that is.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)seekthetruth
(504 posts)Been banned once for standing up to the neoliberals on DU once, and got a slapping on the wrist.
Tisk tisk....
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)with a criminal investigation that has the possibility of ruining the party for years?
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)cheapdate
(3,811 posts)1. Or maybe not
1a. Or maybe not.
1b. Or maybe not.
1c. Or maybe not.
1d. Or maybe not.
2. Or maybe not.
2a. Or maybe not.
2a(1). Or maybe not.
Fun game! I'll play!
3. Maybe she was coordinating illegal foreign political contributions?
4. Maybe she was covering up evidence she killed Vince Foster?
5. Maybe she was actually working with the Russians to carve up Syria's energy resources?
speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)cheapdate
(3,811 posts)and she refuses to talk about it. Curious.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)The many strands & twists & turns of Hillary's resistance to investigation of her notorious private server is well-detailed in Paul Thompson's timeline.
(timeline link courtesy Mike Malloy, who had Thompson on the other night - he is very smart.)
http://thompsontimeline.com/The_Clinton_Email_Scandal_Timeline
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)where was the NSA that it allowed the server? The people who control security of our country should have been on the ball? There is security all over, tapping people's phone lines listening etc. but this was happening right under their noses - why?
speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)even though she was the SOS it doesn't mean she shouldn't have been monitored. Besides I guess the president didn't know either?
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)With so much at stake, taking the most likely possibility is the safest until more information is known.
The surely rules out item #2 are a reasonable position.
The most likely possibility is that Hillary set up the private server to avoid having her personal and Clinton Foundation email susceptible to a FOIA request or congressional subpoena. A lot of bad things followed from that poor decision.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)When you think about what all of this, it is daunting.
This case is unusual because there is an electronic trail of everything Clinton did. If she mishandled classified information or failed to turn over all of her emails, as the FBI requested--there is electronic proof. And if she did fail to turn over all work-related emails, that's an Obstruction charge and possibly evidence tampering.
God only knows what the FBI has uncovered. I bet we will never know all of the details.
The good news is that the FBI has recovered all of her emails that she deleted. That news has been public for months.
She's completely screwed. I'm tired of Hillary fans childishly asserting, "Stop it! This is a right-wing smear!" It's always been about the Democratic party. What's happening inside of our party and what this means for our Democratic primary and our elections.
It's time to start talking about what happens if she is forced to drop out. What happens? Seriously. Democrats need to be prepared. We need to be aware of the rules of our party. For example, what happens to her pledged delegates? Bernie will NOT inherit them by default. This situation does NOT benefit Bernie. What it does is throws our Democratic party into chaos.
Time for people to start discussing this like good Democrats--and discussing what is going to happen.
The FBI announced in late April that the bulk of the investigation is complete. They've all ready finished the groundwork. They know the story, because of that electronic trail. The only thing left to do is to interview Clinton. Not to glean facts, but to try to put the facts that they have unearth--into context. I think we will know where we stand very shortly after she is interviewed. If she doesn't drag her feet, she should be interviewed in May--and I bet our party will know by June.
I hope we can move forward like adults, discussing this incredibly serious situation and crisis that our Democratic party faces. This is bigger than Hillary Clinton. This is about this election and ensuring that Trump is defeated, if she is indicted.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)the government, that is paying her, that must have transparency?
If she operated like everyone else has to, you, me, and the rest of the feds, you would not have to ask all these questions. You should never have to 'guess'.....maybe this or that. We should know.
Fuck Hillary.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)and she will loose.
entitled fucking Idiots
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Always are.
VOX
(22,976 posts)There is no "there" there!