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Sat May 14, 2016, 05:16 PM

 

How embarrassing will two more Losses on Tuesday be to the presumptive Nominee?

I would think it would be quite a embarrassment losing 4 in a row to a far left Democrat that leads trump in ever poll known to man!

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Reply How embarrassing will two more Losses on Tuesday be to the presumptive Nominee? (Original post)
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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:17 PM

1. No one cares. You still lost. HA HA.

 

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Response to Gomez163 (Reply #1)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:18 PM

2. America loses

 

and you will be complicit.

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #2)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:21 PM

3. Because MILLIONS more people voted for the nominee? Feh. nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #3)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:25 PM

9. you voted for the conservative wing of the democratic party

 

The one that loves expensive dragged out wars. The one who didn't learn from her Iraq mistake so tripled down on Syria and Libya. The one who praised another damaging free trade deal, because she failed to learn from NAFTA. The one who opposes citizen's united so much she funds her campaign and super pacs using the very thing she claims to oppose. But you know fracking is now a liberal platform. I guess I will just say it. If she is the nominee we get a choice of a republican or a republican. Outstanding.

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #9)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:34 PM

18. the senator from vermont votes year after year to pay for ever more war and killing. nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #18)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:36 PM

19. the senator from vermont

 

is not going to leave our troops without the items they need. and he will vote for war when it is necessary.. not call it a " business opportunity" like Her Corporate Majesty did.

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #19)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:44 PM

26. Yes, his slogan is "Leave no LOCKHEED MARTIN executive behind!" LOL!!

"Bernie and the Jets" hasn't won him any fans amongst people living in the flight path of those shitty slow airplanes he foisted on his home state.



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Response to MADem (Reply #26)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:49 PM

33. Dang that is very damaging

 

Not nearly as damaging as being in the tank for every wall st investment firm and bank. Nor nearly as damaging as courting Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz donors. Oh and didn't she even accept money from the presumed republican nominee? and the private prison lobby. And Big oil. and big pharma, and the healthcare industry. Seems her acceptance of monies has no limits, and some still call her a democrat. I guess Zell Miller was also a democrat. As was John Breaux. And Max Baucus. Hell even war hawk Lieberman was once called a democrat. Aren't you proud to be in that company of people? Good luck in November, you'll need it.

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #33)

Sun May 15, 2016, 09:28 PM

120. It's almost like they're BOTH politicians!!!

Oh wait...

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Response to Sparkly (Reply #120)

Sun May 15, 2016, 09:31 PM

121. Yea seems only one has big monied interests though

 

whomever would that be?

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #121)

Sun May 15, 2016, 09:44 PM

123. The other side would call unions "big monied interests."

They think the NAACP is a "big monied interest." They think women's rights groups like NOW and NARAL are "big monied interests."

Organizing is not necessarily bad. Commerce is not necessarily bad, either. In this country, a lot of different parts form the machinery that gets progress to happen.

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Response to Sparkly (Reply #123)

Sun May 15, 2016, 09:47 PM

124. You know I didn't mean unions, but who is this other side you speak of?

 

One candidate is on the exact same side. You know that. Free trade, fracking, keystone, regime change, wouldn't normally sound like a dem candidate, yet it is one of them.

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #124)

Sun May 15, 2016, 10:10 PM

129. Republicans.

You know, the people who want to destroy the EPA, the Dept. of Education, and the IRS.

The same people who want to repeal the ACA, Roe v. Wade, and the Voting Rights Act.

The same people holding back federal laws on LGBT rights, fair wages, drug sentencing; cutting funding for medial research, public transport, veterans' health... name it.

You mention "Free trade, fracking, keystone, regime change" -- Clinton and Sanders are so close on these, especially compared with the differences between them and Republicans, it's minuscule.

We're looking at the possibility of Donald Trump making USSC nominations, and these differences are enough for you to sink the whole ship?

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Response to Sparkly (Reply #129)

Sun May 15, 2016, 10:11 PM

131. Oh so like fracking? and being open to debate on late term abortions?

 

I got you.. so the conservative wing of the democratic party.

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #131)

Sun May 15, 2016, 10:20 PM

134. You got the memo of memes.

I know where Clinton stands on those, and it is not what you've chosen to believe. The clear, untwisted facts are out there and have been presented here repeatedly.

You're using codewords as abbreviations. "Fracking" -- there's an equation there between oil and coal, and she has a comprehensive, detailed plan toward moving away from both toward clean, renewable energy. "Open to debate on abortion" -- this is a total lie. She was endorsed by NARAL, NOW and PP, for good reason. She's fought for women's freedom all her life.

Maybe retire the talking points and consider other sources.

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Response to Sparkly (Reply #134)

Sun May 15, 2016, 11:18 PM

147. would you care for the direct quotes straight from her corporate majesties mouth?

 

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #131)

Sun May 15, 2016, 10:59 PM

139. Bernie can't get rid of fracking either

We rely on fracking for too much of our energy and economy. Both candidates plan to deal with that by a long intense program to develop alternatives. Bernie is only different because he's not being honest with his followers.

From the New York debate:

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- jobs are one thing, but with less than 6 percent of all U.S. energy coming from solar, wind and geothermal, and 20 percent of U.S. power coming from nuclear, if you phase out all of that, how do you make up...
SANDERS: Well, you don't phase...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- that difference?
SANDERS: -- it all out tomorrow. And you certainly don't phase nuclear out tomorrow. But this is what you do do.
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: What you do do is say that we are going to have a massive program -- and I had introduced -- introduced legislation for 10 million solar rooftops. We can put probably millions of people to work retrofitting and weatherizing buildings all over this country.
(CHEERING)
SANDERS: Saving -- rebuilding our rail system.
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: Our mass transit system.
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: If we approach this, Errol, as if we were literally at a war -- you know, in 1941, under Franklin Delano Roosevelt, we moved within three years, within three more years to rebuild our economy to defeat Nazism and Japanese imperialism. That is exactly the kind of approach we need right now.

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Response to creeksneakers2 (Reply #139)

Sun May 15, 2016, 11:04 PM

140. You are correct

 

trading drinking water for jobs is an excellent adoption to the democratic platform. Let's start selling dirtier water for everyone Bet it would be a big winner in Michigan

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #140)

Sun May 15, 2016, 11:09 PM

141. Hillary would further regulate fracking

We aren't trading drinking water for jobs. The only water that has been affected is wells very near drilling sites. Those usually aren't hurt either.

Very dramatic post about poisoning the country but it ignores my point that Bernie isn't really any different than Hillary on the topic. Look again. I have Bernie's debate comments to prove it. Unless, you think Bernie wants to poison the country too.

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Response to creeksneakers2 (Reply #141)

Sun May 15, 2016, 11:10 PM

142. Yes, one of her donors told me this as well

 

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Response to creeksneakers2 (Reply #141)

Sun May 15, 2016, 11:12 PM

143. of course lets see them.. show me the one where he doesnt oppose fracking

 

should be an interesting read

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #143)

Sun May 15, 2016, 11:18 PM

146. I didn't say he opposed it

I said he isn't going to do anything more about it than Hillary is. Do I need to post it again?

From the New York debate:

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- jobs are one thing, but with less than 6 percent of all U.S. energy coming from solar, wind and geothermal, and 20 percent of U.S. power coming from nuclear, if you phase out all of that, how do you make up...
SANDERS: Well, you don't phase...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- that difference?
SANDERS: -- it all out tomorrow. And you certainly don't phase nuclear out tomorrow. But this is what you do do.
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: What you do do is say that we are going to have a massive program -- and I had introduced -- introduced legislation for 10 million solar rooftops. We can put probably millions of people to work retrofitting and weatherizing buildings all over this country.
(CHEERING)
SANDERS: Saving -- rebuilding our rail system.
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: Our mass transit system.
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: If we approach this, Errol, as if we were literally at a war -- you know, in 1941, under Franklin Delano Roosevelt, we moved within three years, within three more years to rebuild our economy to defeat Nazism and Japanese imperialism. That is exactly the kind of approach we need right now.

All this stuff about Hillary and her donors being Satan's network is part of the progressive fantasy. They want to pretend they are uniquely virtuous and heroic and to do that they pretend the rest of the world is full of evil monsters. Hillary supports further regulation of fracking. If she was in the pockets of the fracking companies she would be out there defending them.

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Response to creeksneakers2 (Reply #146)

Sun May 15, 2016, 11:19 PM

148. but she is in there pockets

 

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Response to msongs (Reply #18)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:37 PM

20. AFTER he votes against the war, unlike Hillary. Your argument is disingenuous bs

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Response to merrily (Reply #20)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:32 PM

53. He voted for war in Yugoslavia, Somalia, Syria, Libya, Kosovo

 

The hypocrisy is noted.

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Response to puffy socks (Reply #53)

Sun May 15, 2016, 06:10 AM

89. Indeed, the hypocrisy is noted, as are half truths. I replied to a post about funding.

Equating funding troops already put in harm's way by a war vote with the war vote itself is bull pucky. That post got the reply I thought it deserved (as will yours).

Second, Hillary's supporters complaining about Sanders' war votes is really rich. Hillary voted for every surge and war as to which which she had an opportunity to vote, as well as advocating for the Iraq War, to helping sell the Iraq War to the American public in general and Democrats in particular. She also supported or was instrumental in everything cited in your post, most of which were voted on at the request of President Clinton with the rest arising her tenure as Secretary. As for Syria (and a number of other current Middle Eastern "dominoes", Sanders argued his heart out against the Iraq War, correctly predicting that it would de-stablize the entire Middle East.

SANDERS: Let me agree with much of what the secretary said, but where we differ is on the war in Iraq, which created barbaric organizations like ISIS. Not only did I vote against that war, I helped lead the opposition. It gives me no pleasure to tell you that much of what I feared would happen the day after Saddam Hussein was overthrown, in fact, did happen. I think our task is to make certain that our young men and women in the military do not get sucked into never-ending, perpetual warfare within the quagmire of Syria and Iraq. It must be Muslim troops on the ground that destroy ISIS, with the support of a coalition of major powers.
Democratic primary debate in New Hampshire , Feb 4, 2016

From an old post of mine:




Address to the Nation on the Invasion of Iraq (January 16, 1991)



George H. W. Bush


Just 2 hours ago, allied air forces began an attack on military targets in Iraq and Kuwait.
These attacks continue as I speak. Ground forces are not engaged.

This conflict started August 2d when the dictator of Iraq invaded a small and helpless neighbor. Kuwait—a member of the Arab League and a member of the United Nations—was crushed; its people, brutalized. Five months ago, Saddam Hussein started this cruel war against Kuwait. Tonight, the battle has been joined.


much more at:

http://www.millercenter.org/president/speeches/speech-3428

transcript: President Clinton explains Iraq strike

CLINTON: Good evening.

Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.


much more at:

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html






more at:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026211673



Senate vote on 2002 AUMF at:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/107-2002/s237



House vote on 2002 AUMF at:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/107/hjres114



10:16 P.M. EST

THE PRESIDENT: My fellow citizens, at this hour, American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger.


On my orders, coalition forces have begun striking selected targets of military importance to undermine Saddam Hussein's ability to wage war. These are opening stages of what will be a broad and concerted campaign. More than 35 countries are giving crucial support -- from the use of naval and air bases, to help with intelligence and logistics, to the deployment of combat units. Every nation in this coalition has chosen to bear the duty and share the honor of serving in our common defense.


more at http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030319-17.html





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Response to msongs (Reply #18)

Sun May 15, 2016, 05:04 PM

102. A Hillary supporter complaining about the MIC and killing machinery?

That's rich. She peddled death across the globe.

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Response to msongs (Reply #18)

Mon May 16, 2016, 09:16 AM

154. And what is the alternative for him?

Hillary votes to declare a war and invade a country with no reason..

Bernie votes against declaring a war and invading a country with no reason.

Hillary votes to fund the war so that we don't just send our troops there with no equipment, no uniforms, no food, no benefits when they come home perhaps injured and no benefits for their families if they die.

Is Bernie supposed to vote against that equipment, those uniforms, the food and the benefits?

Hillary and her friends vote to start a war for no good reason. Bernie votes to help our troops who are fighting Hillary's war.

Would you seriously have him do otherwise?

He was right in voting against the Iraq War and also right to vote to provide our troops with what they need. There is no conflict in those two votes. They both protect Americans.

Hillary was wrong to vote for the Iraq War Resolution. If you believe that Bernie was wrong to vote to fund the implementation of that Resolution, then you must concede that Hillary was wrong and showed bad judgment in voting for the Resolution in the first place. That is the logic here.

The wrong was in Hillary's vote for the IWR. Even she admits that on an honest day.

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #9)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:38 PM

21. Look, I could be a jerk and respond in kind with some kind of snark about what "wing"

of what party YOU voted for, but I will not stoop to your bitter and childish level.

Hillary Clinton will be our nominee, because she won the most votes.

I'm so sorry if that upsets you, but that is the way it is. She who gets the most votes, WINS.

Now, you run along and have a nice day.

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Response to MADem (Reply #21)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:42 PM

24. Don't sweat being snarky

 

you seem to lack the wit for it. Hillary will be your nominee. I have stated this many times. Now continue to vote GOP lite if you wish.

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #24)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:45 PM

27. You won't last long here if you persist in a tactic of personal insult.

Looks like you're gathering more than enough rope....

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Response to MADem (Reply #27)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:50 PM

35. That would be tragic

 

that I couldn't converse with those hell bent on moving us farther right.

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Response to MADem (Reply #3)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:25 PM

10. Exactly!! LOL!!!!

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Response to MADem (Reply #3)

Sun May 15, 2016, 09:26 PM

119. ...

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Response to Name removed (Reply #132)

Sun May 15, 2016, 11:14 PM

145. The process wasn't rigged

Bernie had plenty of chance to get his message out. He's gotten as much press as a non-front runner candidate could expect. He's had tons of money to advertise his message. There was nothing Schultz could have done about that if she tried, which she didn't.

Losers make up things like "it was rigged."

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Response to creeksneakers2 (Reply #145)

Mon May 16, 2016, 09:05 AM

150. I do not think you even believe that.

 

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Response to coffeeAM (Reply #150)

Mon May 16, 2016, 03:38 PM

161. I do

I also forgot to mention that there were about a dozen debates where Bernie had plenty of chance to get his message out.

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #2)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:13 PM

45. You Bernie Supporters always did have a "flair for the Dramatics". Grow up Timmy.

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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #45)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:16 PM

46. Bringing me to heel

 

are you? Should I just be quiet and jump on board the conservative train?

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #46)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:22 PM

50. No, just act like an adult. Disappointment happens. Be a grownup about it.

Stop pouting and threatening to take your toys and go home.

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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #50)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:26 PM

52. Oh i'm not threatening dear friend.

 

I've already stated countless times presidential portion of my ballot will be left blank if Hillary is the nominee. I do not wish to be in cahoots with those who support the things she supports, the big money, the fracking, the TPP , keystone etc. I do not buy into her recent evolutions as easily as others. You can support who you wish, I myself know who I do not support and given the choice in November between a republican and a republican, like it looks currently, Ill leave that one blank. Enjoy. I have no moral obligation to perpetuation of bad policy.

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #52)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:32 PM

54. And guess what Timmy. No one will even notice. Sure she would like to have your vote.

But as a candidate, Hillary doesn't have time to kiss millions of Bernie's supporters behinds over millions of grievances they may have that date back over the past 30 years. Grow up Timmy. Lassie died. Get over it.

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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #54)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:37 PM

58. No she doesn't, nor do we have to kiss hers

 

and we won't. Now be sure to remember this post when you are begging us later. Be sure to remember this when you blame us later. Be sure you remember this, be sure you own it, be sure you hold yourself accountable. Be sure you get out and help her win. I won't, even had to tell the democratic party chair of the County I won't be doing my duty as precinct committeeman in her favor. You , your ilk, and her are earning every bit of disdain. Just own the outcome and blame nobody but yourselves.

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #58)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:50 PM

60. The BS cheerleaders can all go crawl back under their rocks ... nobody is going to miss them n/t

 

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Response to SFnomad (Reply #60)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:55 PM

62. Until the begging starts

 

which is already daily. Hey, be proud, your candidate recently courted Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz donors. But she is a true democrat. She is very progressive. It's her turn and the GOP is there to help. Only in the Hillary bubble is this a good and noble thing.

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #62)

Sat May 14, 2016, 07:01 PM

66. I couldn't care less about BS cheerleaders ... Sanders supporters on the other hand, I look forward

 

to their support in the General Election.

The BS cheerleaders (aka as BoB'ers) are just like the PUMAs of 2008. Those PUMAs also had their purity ball, their nominee and they were going to pout, cry and throw a big old temper tantrum if they didn't get what they wanted. And when Obama and his supporters didn't bow down to them, those PUMAs were going to take their vote and go home, because Obama was a "weak" candidate and he was going to lose to McCain.

In the end, those PUMAs ended up being immaterial and showed just how childish some supporters can be. You BS cheerleaders, you BorB'ers, will end up being just as immaterial, just as childish and just as forgotten 8 years from now ... while President Hillary Clinton will be finishing up her second term.

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Response to SFnomad (Reply #66)

Sat May 14, 2016, 07:14 PM

67. If ever there has a been a post so wrong about so much it was yours.

 

I was for Hillary Clinton, then came Bernie Sanders into the mix. We got to learn you can have a campaign without huge money donors. Without support from big business, big pharma, wall st. lobbyists or as you guys call them, your allies. I guess the real statement here is I was for Hillary before I examined her record. I am a 50 year old man who voted democrat my whole life. I am also a precinct committeeman, I aid with fundraising events on the local level. I will no longer continue to do so, not because of sanders losing, but because what I've seen regarding this primary from the DNC. You may consider me irrelevant which is about as realistic as her record being irrelevant but it is your opinion. I never asked for your support nor concern. I have stated what I won't do. You can like it or not. I have no need for you or any of the other conservadems permission or acceptance. Nor do I seek it. as stated, get busy selling her, you won't have many of our help, and many of us are long time democratic party activists. Own it. I do.

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Response to SFnomad (Reply #66)

Sun May 15, 2016, 02:51 PM

91. You are in fantasy land..

 

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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #54)

Mon May 16, 2016, 01:39 PM

158. Another Unity Post for electoral karma

winning votes right here. Hill-Brock style. That takes skill. You represent your candidate well. Keep up the great work.

#fight4philly #takebackourparty

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #52)

Sat May 14, 2016, 07:28 PM

69. Trump enabler says what?

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #69)

Sat May 14, 2016, 07:38 PM

76. I consider Hillary supporters Trump enablers

 

After all she loved his monetary donations. I wonder what influence that bought him? I am sure he will let us know.

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Response to timmymoff (Reply #76)

Mon May 16, 2016, 01:43 PM

159. Right? She would know best.



Their kids are friends. They went to his wedding. They know each other from Bill's days in office. Trump's a foundation donor. It's hard to just ignore all the coziness going on there.

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Response to Gomez163 (Reply #1)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:26 PM

12. If no one cares why is the establishment being repudiated state after state?

 

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Response to coffeeAM (Reply #12)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:27 PM

13. *yawn*

 

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Response to coffeeAM (Reply #12)

Sat May 14, 2016, 07:30 PM

70. Bernie is losing badly

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Response to Gomez163 (Reply #1)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:40 PM

23. Are you old enough to be out on your own?

Is that you, Nelson?



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Response to Gomez163 (Reply #1)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:47 PM

29. Typical hillary fan, classy as usual. nt

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #29)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:48 PM

32. We told you it was over. You didn't listen. Now comes the hard part for you.

 

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Response to Gomez163 (Reply #32)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:54 PM

40. LOL, the hard part is hill still losing states, terrible job of closing the deal, and a year ago....

 

72% of dems did not even know bernie.

She is a terrible candidate.

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Response to Logical (Reply #40)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:57 PM

63. News flash, she's already started the GENERAL ELECTION. Just because Sanders

 

decides to continue his fruitless attempts at relevance doesn't mean she can wait until June or the Convention to start preparing for November.

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Response to Logical (Reply #40)

Sat May 14, 2016, 07:31 PM

71. That makes Bernie worse. He can't even win his parties nomination

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Response to Gomez163 (Reply #1)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:18 PM

48. Jeez. How old are you?

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Response to bjo59 (Reply #48)

Sat May 14, 2016, 10:25 PM

85. HEEEEEE HEEEEEEEE

 

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Response to Gomez163 (Reply #1)

Sun May 15, 2016, 05:08 PM

107. It must get boring, sitting around on "first post in the Bernie thread" duty

is there an extra prize for getting in in the first minute?

I hope you have a tablet or phone. I'd hate to imagine anyone sitting at their desktop having to pee into a bucket.

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Response to Gomez163 (Reply #1)

Sun May 15, 2016, 10:07 PM

127. With that attitude you're going to need a lot of luck in Nov.

 

Liberals are not going to lift a finger of support....Yall burned the bridge.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #127)

Sun May 15, 2016, 11:24 PM

149. The fate of the country

shouldn't be decided by manners on a message board. Who would use that to decide? Think of the country, not yourself.

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Response to Gomez163 (Reply #1)

Mon May 16, 2016, 03:50 PM

162. This level of intelligence reminds me of why I wrote this post

 

"You lost-Get over it" Does this primary remind anyone else of election 2000?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511971034

I am getting very suspicious of the level of intelligence we are seeing in Hillary posters.

WE are the smart ones people- We don't just act stupid, repeat nonsense and think we made a point.

Some people have found their way to the wrong party.

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:21 PM

5. Being the frontrunner from open to close isn't as embarrassing as you make it out to be. Nt

 

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:23 PM

6. Bernie lost this thing weeks ago.

How embarrassing is it to keep pretending that's not the fact?

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #6)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:17 PM

47. Every time you post this nonsense Nance, Im gonna post this to remind people

 

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #47)

Sat May 14, 2016, 07:41 PM

77. Go right ahead.

It doesn't change the fact that Bernie lost weeks ago.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #77)

Sat May 14, 2016, 09:15 PM

83. fact and fiction are two different things. Look it up

 

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #83)

Sat May 14, 2016, 10:21 PM

84. You're right.

Here's an example:

FACT: Bernie lost weeks ago, when he ran out of any remotely viable "path to victory".

FICTION: BernieMath.

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #47)

Sat May 14, 2016, 11:38 PM

88. #WhichNanceGreggs

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Response to Desert805 (Reply #88)

Sun May 15, 2016, 05:05 PM

103. LOL

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:24 PM

7. She's already won the nomination. She will not care and won't acknowledge the losses if

she does in fact lose. Bernie is over. Stick a fork in him. He's done done done. We're just going through the motions now letting everyone vote in the primaries, but Hillary is the D nominee for POTUS!!!!!

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Response to beaglelover (Reply #7)

Sat May 14, 2016, 07:59 PM

79. You really believe this fight for a progressive alternative is over if HRC wins the nomination?

Bernie needs to keep fighting for every last vote! Every vote, every delegate earned continues the building of the organizational infrastructure needed to move the Democratic Party back to the progressive left traditions. Coronations tend to have the opposite effect.

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Response to beaglelover (Reply #7)

Sun May 15, 2016, 06:44 PM

113. beaglelover—Based on numerous posts, it doesn’t sound like Hillary voters believe it.

 

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:25 PM

8. When you have the entire establishment, media and massive wall street doantions behind you

 

I would say it is quite embarrassing you are still losing state after state by huge margins this late in the game.

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Response to coffeeAM (Reply #8)

Sat May 14, 2016, 07:33 PM

72. Excuses. The media has kept Bernie propped up for months

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #72)

Sun May 15, 2016, 10:07 PM

128. Hahahahaha!!!!!

Thank you, I think I needed that laugh.

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:25 PM

11. which contests are up on tuesday?

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Response to TheDormouse (Reply #11)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:29 PM

15. Oregon & Kentucky (nt)

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Response to TheDormouse (Reply #11)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:30 PM

16. Kentucky & Oregon

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:28 PM

14. Obama lost most of the final primaries as well. In the mean time Hillary still hasn't lost

either Kentucky or Oregon. Maybe she will lose them. But either way she is winning the overall contest, having gotten more votes and delegates than her opponent.

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Response to StevieM (Reply #14)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:54 PM

61. And Bernie hasn't lost the nomination, so to the convention!

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:33 PM

17. "every poll known to man". ok nt

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:43 PM

25. Not nearly as embarrassing as this:

Nearly $200 million raised. Hundreds of thousands of rally attendees. Internet domination. Kid-gloves media attention.

Loses to the most-hated woman in the world.

Ouch!

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Response to Name removed (Reply #28)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:49 PM

34. That's it?

Speaking of embarrassing...

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #34)

Sun May 15, 2016, 04:27 PM

93. First candidate in history under FBI investigation and most hated in history among Dems.

 

A proud moment. You go girl.

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #93)

Sun May 15, 2016, 10:05 PM

126. She is not under investigation.

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Response to apcalc (Reply #126)

Sun May 15, 2016, 10:14 PM

133. Oh yes she is!

 

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #25)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:56 PM

42. kid gloves media? How about almost none unless to mock - right, Maddow and Hayes?

Actually, I do hear more about Bernie on CNN and maybe that's why he's made such a remarkable race out of a foregone conclusion.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #42)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:01 PM

44. There's a hyphen there for a reason.

"Kid gloves media" suggests an adolescent hit someone.

You Berniacs and your violent rhetoric. Tsk, tsk.

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #44)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:36 PM

57. You were unable to discern meaning in context? Really. Explains your love of HRC.

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #44)

Sun May 15, 2016, 04:30 PM

95. Recently it has been shown that that whole Bernie Bro aggressive thing is a lie, it's actually

 

the Hillary supporters who people have found to be the more aggressive and obnoxious. Just what I have experienced. Especially all the smug and condescension. Ick!
The truth does come out eventually. It's starting to arrive.

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #95)

Sun May 15, 2016, 05:17 PM

108. Of course it has.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #42)

Sun May 15, 2016, 04:47 PM

97. and always remember

 






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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #25)

Sat May 14, 2016, 07:34 PM

73. Pretty pathetic. Bernie is a one issue flop

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #25)

Sat May 14, 2016, 09:15 PM

81. No one, and I mean NO ONE gets to the heart of the matter the way you do.

Well done, sir!! As usual.

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #25)

Sun May 15, 2016, 05:08 PM

106. Again. The little old balding Jew from Brooklyn via Burlington is still standing despite

every effort of everyone backing HRC to beat him or shut him down. It may well be that the Superdelegates will not see that as troublesome but there you have it.

No matter what the Hillary supporters claim, Sanders has come light years further than anyone on the Establishment side thought was even possible. The lengthy list of advantages Secretary Clinton had going into this thing is well known and indisputable. The fact that she and her surrogates have proven unable to brush Sanders aside spells out just how weak a candidate she really is.

If she is the nominee all her Wall Street and neo-con allies can pray for is that Trump turns out to be as much of a buffoon as he appears to be. Otherwise we might well lose the Presidency, as has been the case most times one party has held that office for two terms.

And, the water is still rising.

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Response to mikehiggins (Reply #106)

Sun May 15, 2016, 05:28 PM

109. How very fascinating!

In summary:


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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #25)

Sun May 15, 2016, 11:12 PM

144. Succint and devastatingly accurate. nt

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:48 PM

30. Those are both closed primaries

Not good for Sanders.

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #30)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:51 PM

36. Would losses in closed primaries not add to the embarrassment?

 

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Response to coffeeAM (Reply #36)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:53 PM

37. Clinton has won all the closed primaries



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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #37)

Sun May 15, 2016, 05:06 PM

105. Stewart: "without the courage of her convictions — ‘cause I’m not even sure what they are"

“She reminds me of Magic Johnson’s talk show,” Mr. Stewart continued. “Magic Johnson was a charming individual, but he wasn’t a talk show host, and when you watched his show you could almost see Arsenio’s advice to him, in real time rendering, so he would sit and he would go, ‘Uh, my first guest tonight — Oh, Arsenio said, enthusiasm is something that’s sell is — my first guess tonight is Cher, everybody!’ But he never seemed authentic and real to his personality. It seemed like he was wearing an outfit designed by someone else for someone else to be someone else.”


Since you used the GIF from his show, thought I'd chime in here! Bye now.

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #37)

Sun May 15, 2016, 10:02 PM

125. except democrats abroad, but ya, its a steep hill and narrow path! Go Bernie!

Also later in the game. More opportunities for supporters to register. It will be interesting.

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:48 PM

31. What do they call a student who finished last in med school?

Answer Doctor.

Hillary has won the nomination.

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Response to Botany (Reply #31)

Sun May 15, 2016, 04:42 PM

96. No, she hasn't.

 

And please fix your "about" section. What little you've lifted, you've gotten wrong.

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:53 PM

38. Wins/losses have been too close to call "wins" in most cases. Discuss issues - not horse race.

Our country is very divided. Pretty evenly. So why not more discussion of issues over the horse race? In the end, the math is pretty unimportant. We will have a President that will or will not reflect the issues the majority of voters think important. Too many Clinton supporters do not or cannot discuss the issues. Why do you think she's the best? What will she do for us? That's all I want to know. But no HRC poster seems to be able to get through a thread without posting distractions.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #38)

Mon May 16, 2016, 10:35 AM

156. On what planet were they close?

300 delegates and 3 million votes is not close.

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:54 PM

39. Ask President Obama, who lost contests towards the end of 08 primaries. Emphasis on PRESIDENT.

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 05:55 PM

41. When the smoke clears, all Bernie will have is a bird in his hand.

So enjoy yourself while you can.

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Response to oasis (Reply #41)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:00 PM

43. While you enjoy the money transferring into Wall Street's hands.

I prefer birds, thank you. Actually, another difference between compassionate and just Sanders supporters and Clinton supporters. Four more years of status quo and then . . . a republican will return to office. How do I know? Because that is our recent history. Neither side does anything for the average family so we keep them all in office when it is their turns. I say "we" but I really mean "you."

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:20 PM

49. *sigh*

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:23 PM

51. Far less embarassing than your sad little tweet ... opps, I mean OP.

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:33 PM

55. The media will hardly cover it since Trump is not involved...

and they realize Hillary will be the nominee regardless.

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:35 PM

56. In May & June of 2008

Barack Obama won primaries and caucuses in: North Carolina, Oregon and Montana.
Hillary Clinton won in Indiana, West Virginia, Kentucky, Puerto Rico and South Dakota and Obama and Clinton tied in Guam.
I don't think that Barack Obama was embarrassed that he was up against a tough and popular opponent who alot of people supported. He won the nomination.

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:38 PM

59. It kind of depends on how it is covered by the media. Many people I've talked to don't even realize

 

that Bernie is still in the race, because all they hear on the network nightly news is Trump v. Clinton.

I always forget that not everyone follows politics as closely as people who frequent DU.

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Response to anotherproletariat (Reply #59)

Sun May 15, 2016, 04:50 PM

98. The wake up alarm comes when the FBI makes their announcement whatever it is.

 

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:57 PM

64. Besides Kentucky and Oregon

what are the other two that would make it 4 in a row?

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #64)

Sat May 14, 2016, 07:16 PM

68. Guam doesn't really count, you know that n/t

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Response to Godhumor (Reply #68)

Sat May 14, 2016, 09:09 PM

80. Really? If Bernie thinks that then he should give up his delegates for Guam.

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 06:57 PM

65. Not nearly as embarrassing as Bernie and his suporters will feel when he finally concedes.

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 07:35 PM

74. Hopefully they will give Bernie a participation trophy

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 07:38 PM

75. since she's going to be the nominee

...not at all.

You're overdue for a block.

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Sat May 14, 2016, 09:15 PM

82. Love election night

I love watching the results come in, it's the people in those states that get to decide who their choice is.

How can you hate that?

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 10:28 PM

86. I'm definitely looking forward to Tuesday



I think Bernie has good chances at winning both states, and yes, it will be very embarrassing for Hillary to lose again...just more evidence how weak a nominee she truly is...Sanders is the only way forward for progressives and the Democratic party, in my humble opinion.

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2016, 10:31 PM

87. Wait until she gets thumped...in California

 

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #87)

Sun May 15, 2016, 02:49 PM

90. Oh believe me, I cnnot wait for that thumping, but lets enjopy the buildup that started in Indiana!

 

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #87)

Sun May 15, 2016, 04:52 PM

99. But, but, but, she's the hugely popular candidate, the people lover her in CA.

 





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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #99)

Sun May 15, 2016, 07:07 PM

115. Same as Nevada contest

 

And we see how that turned out

Revolution

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #115)

Mon May 16, 2016, 01:32 PM

157. Or

 

The coronation has been postponed . . . . . .

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #157)

Mon May 16, 2016, 02:20 PM

160. Ha Ha...what will. DWS do..if the queen gets no croen?

 

Especially if Conova usurps her...

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sun May 15, 2016, 04:25 PM

92. Maybe instead of calling her the "presumptive" nominee, it should be "presumptuous" nominee.

 

Just sayin' . . . . . . you know, if the shoe fits . . . .

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sun May 15, 2016, 04:29 PM

94. | | <-------- That much nt

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sun May 15, 2016, 04:58 PM

100. Doesn't matter...if Bernie doesn't get 80% of the vote...he loses...

It's the math...always been the math

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #100)

Sun May 15, 2016, 05:06 PM

104. Bernie needs 67% of the remaining delegates to end up 1 delegate ahead of Hillary.

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sun May 15, 2016, 05:01 PM

101. I suspect there will be an abundance of dirty trick going on.

Last edited Sun May 15, 2016, 08:59 PM - Edit history (2)

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sun May 15, 2016, 05:33 PM

110. Miss Inevitable has to be pissed off. nt

 

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sun May 15, 2016, 05:35 PM

111. Won't matter one bit.

This primary is over.

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Response to Sancho (Reply #111)

Sun May 15, 2016, 09:26 PM

118. NOT

 

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Response to IHateTheGOP (Reply #112)

Sun May 15, 2016, 09:23 PM

116. or the big house for that matter!

 

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sun May 15, 2016, 06:46 PM

114. One has to feel shame to be embarrassed. The woman knows no shame.

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Response to Hiraeth (Reply #114)

Sun May 15, 2016, 09:25 PM

117. That is a fact!

 

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sun May 15, 2016, 09:32 PM

122. It's her turn and she has the Corporate media and the corporate DNC and Wall street

so .......

The COuntry is screwed and about to into total corporate domination
good luck

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sun May 15, 2016, 10:10 PM

130. I think the MSM gets that this is just a formality now. I hardly saw anything on network news about

 

Sander's last couple of wins. They are far to focused on the Trump v. Clinton race, and don't seem to want anything to disrupt their storyline.

Besides, once again, unless Sanders wins by 40 or more points, the delegates will more or less evenly split when you take the supers into account. This always seems to be how they finish the 10 second blurb on Sander's wins. "Bernie Sanders won the West Virginia primary yesterday, but only netted 5 delegates, so this does nothing to stop the massive Clinton lead..."

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sun May 15, 2016, 10:23 PM

135. You just keep counting those chickens

and soon they'll come home to roost!

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sun May 15, 2016, 10:26 PM

136. 134 replys and I only see 20 of them. too funny:)

 

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Sun May 15, 2016, 10:27 PM

137. She needs 143 delegates. Proportional dispensation of delegates will take her across the finish.

Sanders doesn't win even if he wins.

Sanders, however, will be deeply embarrassed even if he wins.
Because he has lost.

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 09:08 AM

151. It might be embarrassing if the presumptive nominee had the capacity for shame... n/t

 

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Response to leeroysphitz (Reply #151)

Mon May 16, 2016, 09:10 AM

152. So true!

 

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 09:10 AM

153. His name is Barack Obama, President. Another question, how embarassing will it be for Sanders if he

doesn't win by 70%?

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Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 09:46 AM

155. That's if they dont rig either of these two like they have done with past primaries.

 

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