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How embarrassing will two more Losses on Tuesday be to the presumptive Nominee? (Original Post) coffeeAM May 2016 OP
No one cares. You still lost. HA HA. Gomez163 May 2016 #1
America loses timmymoff May 2016 #2
Because MILLIONS more people voted for the nominee? Feh. nt MADem May 2016 #3
you voted for the conservative wing of the democratic party timmymoff May 2016 #9
the senator from vermont votes year after year to pay for ever more war and killing. nt msongs May 2016 #18
the senator from vermont timmymoff May 2016 #19
Yes, his slogan is "Leave no LOCKHEED MARTIN executive behind!" LOL!! MADem May 2016 #26
Dang that is very damaging timmymoff May 2016 #33
It's almost like they're BOTH politicians!!! Sparkly May 2016 #120
Yea seems only one has big monied interests though timmymoff May 2016 #121
The other side would call unions "big monied interests." Sparkly May 2016 #123
You know I didn't mean unions, but who is this other side you speak of? timmymoff May 2016 #124
Republicans. Sparkly May 2016 #129
Oh so like fracking? and being open to debate on late term abortions? timmymoff May 2016 #131
You got the memo of memes. Sparkly May 2016 #134
would you care for the direct quotes straight from her corporate majesties mouth? timmymoff May 2016 #147
Bernie can't get rid of fracking either creeksneakers2 May 2016 #139
You are correct timmymoff May 2016 #140
Hillary would further regulate fracking creeksneakers2 May 2016 #141
Yes, one of her donors told me this as well timmymoff May 2016 #142
of course lets see them.. show me the one where he doesnt oppose fracking timmymoff May 2016 #143
I didn't say he opposed it creeksneakers2 May 2016 #146
but she is in there pockets timmymoff May 2016 #148
AFTER he votes against the war, unlike Hillary. Your argument is disingenuous bs merrily May 2016 #20
He voted for war in Yugoslavia, Somalia, Syria, Libya, Kosovo puffy socks May 2016 #53
Indeed, the hypocrisy is noted, as are half truths. I replied to a post about funding. merrily May 2016 #89
A Hillary supporter complaining about the MIC and killing machinery? Loudestlib May 2016 #102
And what is the alternative for him? JDPriestly May 2016 #154
Look, I could be a jerk and respond in kind with some kind of snark about what "wing" MADem May 2016 #21
Don't sweat being snarky timmymoff May 2016 #24
You won't last long here if you persist in a tactic of personal insult. MADem May 2016 #27
That would be tragic timmymoff May 2016 #35
Exactly!! LOL!!!! beaglelover May 2016 #10
... Ash_F May 2016 #119
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #132
The process wasn't rigged creeksneakers2 May 2016 #145
I do not think you even believe that. coffeeAM May 2016 #150
I do creeksneakers2 May 2016 #161
This message was self-deleted by its author Gomez163 May 2016 #4
You Bernie Supporters always did have a "flair for the Dramatics". Grow up Timmy. politicaljunkie41910 May 2016 #45
Bringing me to heel timmymoff May 2016 #46
No, just act like an adult. Disappointment happens. Be a grownup about it. politicaljunkie41910 May 2016 #50
Oh i'm not threatening dear friend. timmymoff May 2016 #52
And guess what Timmy. No one will even notice. Sure she would like to have your vote. politicaljunkie41910 May 2016 #54
No she doesn't, nor do we have to kiss hers timmymoff May 2016 #58
The BS cheerleaders can all go crawl back under their rocks ... nobody is going to miss them n/t SFnomad May 2016 #60
Until the begging starts timmymoff May 2016 #62
I couldn't care less about BS cheerleaders ... Sanders supporters on the other hand, I look forward SFnomad May 2016 #66
If ever there has a been a post so wrong about so much it was yours. timmymoff May 2016 #67
You are in fantasy land.. coffeeAM May 2016 #91
Another Unity Post for electoral karma Kittycat May 2016 #158
Trump enabler says what? redstateblues May 2016 #69
I consider Hillary supporters Trump enablers timmymoff May 2016 #76
Right? She would know best. Kittycat May 2016 #159
If no one cares why is the establishment being repudiated state after state? coffeeAM May 2016 #12
*yawn* Gomez163 May 2016 #13
Bernie is losing badly redstateblues May 2016 #70
Are you old enough to be out on your own? LWolf May 2016 #23
Typical hillary fan, classy as usual. nt Logical May 2016 #29
We told you it was over. You didn't listen. Now comes the hard part for you. Gomez163 May 2016 #32
LOL, the hard part is hill still losing states, terrible job of closing the deal, and a year ago.... Logical May 2016 #40
News flash, she's already started the GENERAL ELECTION. Just because Sanders KittyWampus May 2016 #63
That makes Bernie worse. He can't even win his parties nomination redstateblues May 2016 #71
Jeez. How old are you? bjo59 May 2016 #48
HEEEEEE HEEEEEEEE Gomez163 May 2016 #85
It must get boring, sitting around on "first post in the Bernie thread" duty Warren DeMontague May 2016 #107
With that attitude you're going to need a lot of luck in Nov. HooptieWagon May 2016 #127
The fate of the country creeksneakers2 May 2016 #149
This level of intelligence reminds me of why I wrote this post J_J_ May 2016 #162
Being the frontrunner from open to close isn't as embarrassing as you make it out to be. Nt NCTraveler May 2016 #5
Bernie lost this thing weeks ago. NanceGreggs May 2016 #6
Every time you post this nonsense Nance, Im gonna post this to remind people litlbilly May 2016 #47
Go right ahead. NanceGreggs May 2016 #77
fact and fiction are two different things. Look it up litlbilly May 2016 #83
You're right. NanceGreggs May 2016 #84
#WhichNanceGreggs Desert805 May 2016 #88
LOL azmom May 2016 #103
She's already won the nomination. She will not care and won't acknowledge the losses if beaglelover May 2016 #7
You really believe this fight for a progressive alternative is over if HRC wins the nomination? JumpinJehosaphat May 2016 #79
beaglelover—Based on numerous posts, it doesn’t sound like Hillary voters believe it. CobaltBlue May 2016 #113
When you have the entire establishment, media and massive wall street doantions behind you coffeeAM May 2016 #8
Excuses. The media has kept Bernie propped up for months redstateblues May 2016 #72
Hahahahaha!!!!! RichVRichV May 2016 #128
which contests are up on tuesday? TheDormouse May 2016 #11
Oregon & Kentucky (nt) Ino May 2016 #15
Kentucky & Oregon lovemydog May 2016 #16
Obama lost most of the final primaries as well. In the mean time Hillary still hasn't lost StevieM May 2016 #14
And Bernie hasn't lost the nomination, so to the convention! Ed Suspicious May 2016 #61
"every poll known to man". ok nt msongs May 2016 #17
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #22
Not nearly as embarrassing as this: OilemFirchen May 2016 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #28
That's it? OilemFirchen May 2016 #34
First candidate in history under FBI investigation and most hated in history among Dems. pdsimdars May 2016 #93
She is not under investigation. apcalc May 2016 #126
Oh yes she is! coffeeAM May 2016 #133
kid gloves media? How about almost none unless to mock - right, Maddow and Hayes? snowy owl May 2016 #42
There's a hyphen there for a reason. OilemFirchen May 2016 #44
You were unable to discern meaning in context? Really. Explains your love of HRC. snowy owl May 2016 #57
Recently it has been shown that that whole Bernie Bro aggressive thing is a lie, it's actually pdsimdars May 2016 #95
Of course it has. OilemFirchen May 2016 #108
and always remember pdsimdars May 2016 #97
Pretty pathetic. Bernie is a one issue flop redstateblues May 2016 #73
No one, and I mean NO ONE gets to the heart of the matter the way you do. Number23 May 2016 #81
Again. The little old balding Jew from Brooklyn via Burlington is still standing despite mikehiggins May 2016 #106
How very fascinating! OilemFirchen May 2016 #109
Succint and devastatingly accurate. nt BootinUp May 2016 #144
Those are both closed primaries KingFlorez May 2016 #30
Would losses in closed primaries not add to the embarrassment? coffeeAM May 2016 #36
Clinton has won all the closed primaries KingFlorez May 2016 #37
Stewart: "without the courage of her convictions — ‘cause I’m not even sure what they are" JonLeibowitz May 2016 #105
except democrats abroad, but ya, its a steep hill and narrow path! Go Bernie! floppyboo May 2016 #125
What do they call a student who finished last in med school? Botany May 2016 #31
No, she hasn't. bvf May 2016 #96
Wins/losses have been too close to call "wins" in most cases. Discuss issues - not horse race. snowy owl May 2016 #38
On what planet were they close? rbrnmw May 2016 #156
Ask President Obama, who lost contests towards the end of 08 primaries. Emphasis on PRESIDENT. Metric System May 2016 #39
When the smoke clears, all Bernie will have is a bird in his hand. oasis May 2016 #41
While you enjoy the money transferring into Wall Street's hands. snowy owl May 2016 #43
*sigh* grossproffit May 2016 #49
Far less embarassing than your sad little tweet ... opps, I mean OP. JoePhilly May 2016 #51
The media will hardly cover it since Trump is not involved... DCBob May 2016 #55
In May & June of 2008 jamese777 May 2016 #56
It kind of depends on how it is covered by the media. Many people I've talked to don't even realize anotherproletariat May 2016 #59
The wake up alarm comes when the FBI makes their announcement whatever it is. pdsimdars May 2016 #98
Besides Kentucky and Oregon LiberalFighter May 2016 #64
Guam doesn't really count, you know that n/t Godhumor May 2016 #68
Really? If Bernie thinks that then he should give up his delegates for Guam. LiberalFighter May 2016 #80
Not nearly as embarrassing as Bernie and his suporters will feel when he finally concedes. Lil Missy May 2016 #65
Hopefully they will give Bernie a participation trophy redstateblues May 2016 #74
since she's going to be the nominee bigtree May 2016 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #78
Love election night Dem2 May 2016 #82
I'm definitely looking forward to Tuesday One Black Sheep May 2016 #86
Wait until she gets thumped...in California laserhaas May 2016 #87
Oh believe me, I cnnot wait for that thumping, but lets enjopy the buildup that started in Indiana! coffeeAM May 2016 #90
But, but, but, she's the hugely popular candidate, the people lover her in CA. pdsimdars May 2016 #99
Same as Nevada contest laserhaas May 2016 #115
Or pdsimdars May 2016 #157
Ha Ha...what will. DWS do..if the queen gets no croen? laserhaas May 2016 #160
Maybe instead of calling her the "presumptive" nominee, it should be "presumptuous" nominee. pdsimdars May 2016 #92
| | <-------- That much nt firebrand80 May 2016 #94
Doesn't matter...if Bernie doesn't get 80% of the vote...he loses... beachbumbob May 2016 #100
Bernie needs 67% of the remaining delegates to end up 1 delegate ahead of Hillary. CentralMass May 2016 #104
I suspect there will be an abundance of dirty trick going on. CentralMass May 2016 #101
Miss Inevitable has to be pissed off. nt Logical May 2016 #110
Won't matter one bit. Sancho May 2016 #111
NOT coffeeAM May 2016 #118
This message was self-deleted by its author IHateTheGOP May 2016 #112
or the big house for that matter! coffeeAM May 2016 #116
This message was self-deleted by its author IHateTheGOP May 2016 #138
One has to feel shame to be embarrassed. The woman knows no shame. Hiraeth May 2016 #114
That is a fact! coffeeAM May 2016 #117
It's her turn and she has the Corporate media and the corporate DNC and Wall street Ferd Berfel May 2016 #122
I think the MSM gets that this is just a formality now. I hardly saw anything on network news about eastwestdem May 2016 #130
You just keep counting those chickens LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #135
134 replys and I only see 20 of them. too funny:) litlbilly May 2016 #136
She needs 143 delegates. Proportional dispensation of delegates will take her across the finish. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #137
It might be embarrassing if the presumptive nominee had the capacity for shame... n/t leeroysphitz May 2016 #151
So true! coffeeAM May 2016 #152
His name is Barack Obama, President. Another question, how embarassing will it be for Sanders if he Thinkingabout May 2016 #153
That's if they dont rig either of these two like they have done with past primaries. Lindsixo May 2016 #155
 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
9. you voted for the conservative wing of the democratic party
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:25 PM
May 2016

The one that loves expensive dragged out wars. The one who didn't learn from her Iraq mistake so tripled down on Syria and Libya. The one who praised another damaging free trade deal, because she failed to learn from NAFTA. The one who opposes citizen's united so much she funds her campaign and super pacs using the very thing she claims to oppose. But you know fracking is now a liberal platform. I guess I will just say it. If she is the nominee we get a choice of a republican or a republican. Outstanding.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
19. the senator from vermont
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:36 PM
May 2016

is not going to leave our troops without the items they need. and he will vote for war when it is necessary.. not call it a " business opportunity" like Her Corporate Majesty did.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. Yes, his slogan is "Leave no LOCKHEED MARTIN executive behind!" LOL!!
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:44 PM
May 2016

"Bernie and the Jets" hasn't won him any fans amongst people living in the flight path of those shitty slow airplanes he foisted on his home state.



 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
33. Dang that is very damaging
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:49 PM
May 2016

Not nearly as damaging as being in the tank for every wall st investment firm and bank. Nor nearly as damaging as courting Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz donors. Oh and didn't she even accept money from the presumed republican nominee? and the private prison lobby. And Big oil. and big pharma, and the healthcare industry. Seems her acceptance of monies has no limits, and some still call her a democrat. I guess Zell Miller was also a democrat. As was John Breaux. And Max Baucus. Hell even war hawk Lieberman was once called a democrat. Aren't you proud to be in that company of people? Good luck in November, you'll need it.

Sparkly

(24,352 posts)
123. The other side would call unions "big monied interests."
Sun May 15, 2016, 09:44 PM
May 2016

They think the NAACP is a "big monied interest." They think women's rights groups like NOW and NARAL are "big monied interests."

Organizing is not necessarily bad. Commerce is not necessarily bad, either. In this country, a lot of different parts form the machinery that gets progress to happen.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
124. You know I didn't mean unions, but who is this other side you speak of?
Sun May 15, 2016, 09:47 PM
May 2016

One candidate is on the exact same side. You know that. Free trade, fracking, keystone, regime change, wouldn't normally sound like a dem candidate, yet it is one of them.

Sparkly

(24,352 posts)
129. Republicans.
Sun May 15, 2016, 10:10 PM
May 2016

You know, the people who want to destroy the EPA, the Dept. of Education, and the IRS.

The same people who want to repeal the ACA, Roe v. Wade, and the Voting Rights Act.

The same people holding back federal laws on LGBT rights, fair wages, drug sentencing; cutting funding for medial research, public transport, veterans' health... name it.

You mention "Free trade, fracking, keystone, regime change" -- Clinton and Sanders are so close on these, especially compared with the differences between them and Republicans, it's minuscule.

We're looking at the possibility of Donald Trump making USSC nominations, and these differences are enough for you to sink the whole ship?

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
131. Oh so like fracking? and being open to debate on late term abortions?
Sun May 15, 2016, 10:11 PM
May 2016

I got you.. so the conservative wing of the democratic party.

Sparkly

(24,352 posts)
134. You got the memo of memes.
Sun May 15, 2016, 10:20 PM
May 2016

I know where Clinton stands on those, and it is not what you've chosen to believe. The clear, untwisted facts are out there and have been presented here repeatedly.

You're using codewords as abbreviations. "Fracking" -- there's an equation there between oil and coal, and she has a comprehensive, detailed plan toward moving away from both toward clean, renewable energy. "Open to debate on abortion" -- this is a total lie. She was endorsed by NARAL, NOW and PP, for good reason. She's fought for women's freedom all her life.

Maybe retire the talking points and consider other sources.

creeksneakers2

(7,597 posts)
139. Bernie can't get rid of fracking either
Sun May 15, 2016, 10:59 PM
May 2016

We rely on fracking for too much of our energy and economy. Both candidates plan to deal with that by a long intense program to develop alternatives. Bernie is only different because he's not being honest with his followers.

From the New York debate:

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- jobs are one thing, but with less than 6 percent of all U.S. energy coming from solar, wind and geothermal, and 20 percent of U.S. power coming from nuclear, if you phase out all of that, how do you make up...
SANDERS: Well, you don't phase...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- that difference?
SANDERS: -- it all out tomorrow. And you certainly don't phase nuclear out tomorrow. But this is what you do do.
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: What you do do is say that we are going to have a massive program -- and I had introduced -- introduced legislation for 10 million solar rooftops. We can put probably millions of people to work retrofitting and weatherizing buildings all over this country.
(CHEERING)
SANDERS: Saving -- rebuilding our rail system.
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: Our mass transit system.
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: If we approach this, Errol, as if we were literally at a war -- you know, in 1941, under Franklin Delano Roosevelt, we moved within three years, within three more years to rebuild our economy to defeat Nazism and Japanese imperialism. That is exactly the kind of approach we need right now.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
140. You are correct
Sun May 15, 2016, 11:04 PM
May 2016

trading drinking water for jobs is an excellent adoption to the democratic platform. Let's start selling dirtier water for everyone Bet it would be a big winner in Michigan

creeksneakers2

(7,597 posts)
141. Hillary would further regulate fracking
Sun May 15, 2016, 11:09 PM
May 2016

We aren't trading drinking water for jobs. The only water that has been affected is wells very near drilling sites. Those usually aren't hurt either.

Very dramatic post about poisoning the country but it ignores my point that Bernie isn't really any different than Hillary on the topic. Look again. I have Bernie's debate comments to prove it. Unless, you think Bernie wants to poison the country too.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
143. of course lets see them.. show me the one where he doesnt oppose fracking
Sun May 15, 2016, 11:12 PM
May 2016

should be an interesting read

creeksneakers2

(7,597 posts)
146. I didn't say he opposed it
Sun May 15, 2016, 11:18 PM
May 2016

I said he isn't going to do anything more about it than Hillary is. Do I need to post it again?

From the New York debate:

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- jobs are one thing, but with less than 6 percent of all U.S. energy coming from solar, wind and geothermal, and 20 percent of U.S. power coming from nuclear, if you phase out all of that, how do you make up...
SANDERS: Well, you don't phase...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- that difference?
SANDERS: -- it all out tomorrow. And you certainly don't phase nuclear out tomorrow. But this is what you do do.
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: What you do do is say that we are going to have a massive program -- and I had introduced -- introduced legislation for 10 million solar rooftops. We can put probably millions of people to work retrofitting and weatherizing buildings all over this country.
(CHEERING)
SANDERS: Saving -- rebuilding our rail system.
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: Our mass transit system.
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: If we approach this, Errol, as if we were literally at a war -- you know, in 1941, under Franklin Delano Roosevelt, we moved within three years, within three more years to rebuild our economy to defeat Nazism and Japanese imperialism. That is exactly the kind of approach we need right now.

All this stuff about Hillary and her donors being Satan's network is part of the progressive fantasy. They want to pretend they are uniquely virtuous and heroic and to do that they pretend the rest of the world is full of evil monsters. Hillary supports further regulation of fracking. If she was in the pockets of the fracking companies she would be out there defending them.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
89. Indeed, the hypocrisy is noted, as are half truths. I replied to a post about funding.
Sun May 15, 2016, 06:10 AM
May 2016

Equating funding troops already put in harm's way by a war vote with the war vote itself is bull pucky. That post got the reply I thought it deserved (as will yours).

Second, Hillary's supporters complaining about Sanders' war votes is really rich. Hillary voted for every surge and war as to which which she had an opportunity to vote, as well as advocating for the Iraq War, to helping sell the Iraq War to the American public in general and Democrats in particular. She also supported or was instrumental in everything cited in your post, most of which were voted on at the request of President Clinton with the rest arising her tenure as Secretary. As for Syria (and a number of other current Middle Eastern "dominoes&quot , Sanders argued his heart out against the Iraq War, correctly predicting that it would de-stablize the entire Middle East.

SANDERS: Let me agree with much of what the secretary said, but where we differ is on the war in Iraq, which created barbaric organizations like ISIS. Not only did I vote against that war, I helped lead the opposition. It gives me no pleasure to tell you that much of what I feared would happen the day after Saddam Hussein was overthrown, in fact, did happen. I think our task is to make certain that our young men and women in the military do not get sucked into never-ending, perpetual warfare within the quagmire of Syria and Iraq. It must be Muslim troops on the ground that destroy ISIS, with the support of a coalition of major powers.
Democratic primary debate in New Hampshire , Feb 4, 2016

From an old post of mine:




Address to the Nation on the Invasion of Iraq (January 16, 1991)



George H. W. Bush


Just 2 hours ago, allied air forces began an attack on military targets in Iraq and Kuwait.
These attacks continue as I speak. Ground forces are not engaged.

This conflict started August 2d when the dictator of Iraq invaded a small and helpless neighbor. Kuwait—a member of the Arab League and a member of the United Nations—was crushed; its people, brutalized. Five months ago, Saddam Hussein started this cruel war against Kuwait. Tonight, the battle has been joined.


much more at:

http://www.millercenter.org/president/speeches/speech-3428

transcript: President Clinton explains Iraq strike

CLINTON: Good evening.

Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.


much more at:

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html






more at:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026211673



Senate vote on 2002 AUMF at:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/107-2002/s237



House vote on 2002 AUMF at:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/107/hjres114



10:16 P.M. EST

THE PRESIDENT: My fellow citizens, at this hour, American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger.


On my orders, coalition forces have begun striking selected targets of military importance to undermine Saddam Hussein's ability to wage war. These are opening stages of what will be a broad and concerted campaign. More than 35 countries are giving crucial support -- from the use of naval and air bases, to help with intelligence and logistics, to the deployment of combat units. Every nation in this coalition has chosen to bear the duty and share the honor of serving in our common defense.


more at http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030319-17.html





Loudestlib

(980 posts)
102. A Hillary supporter complaining about the MIC and killing machinery?
Sun May 15, 2016, 05:04 PM
May 2016

That's rich. She peddled death across the globe.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
154. And what is the alternative for him?
Mon May 16, 2016, 09:16 AM
May 2016

Hillary votes to declare a war and invade a country with no reason..

Bernie votes against declaring a war and invading a country with no reason.

Hillary votes to fund the war so that we don't just send our troops there with no equipment, no uniforms, no food, no benefits when they come home perhaps injured and no benefits for their families if they die.

Is Bernie supposed to vote against that equipment, those uniforms, the food and the benefits?

Hillary and her friends vote to start a war for no good reason. Bernie votes to help our troops who are fighting Hillary's war.

Would you seriously have him do otherwise?

He was right in voting against the Iraq War and also right to vote to provide our troops with what they need. There is no conflict in those two votes. They both protect Americans.

Hillary was wrong to vote for the Iraq War Resolution. If you believe that Bernie was wrong to vote to fund the implementation of that Resolution, then you must concede that Hillary was wrong and showed bad judgment in voting for the Resolution in the first place. That is the logic here.

The wrong was in Hillary's vote for the IWR. Even she admits that on an honest day.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. Look, I could be a jerk and respond in kind with some kind of snark about what "wing"
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:38 PM
May 2016

of what party YOU voted for, but I will not stoop to your bitter and childish level.

Hillary Clinton will be our nominee, because she won the most votes.

I'm so sorry if that upsets you, but that is the way it is. She who gets the most votes, WINS.

Now, you run along and have a nice day.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
24. Don't sweat being snarky
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:42 PM
May 2016

you seem to lack the wit for it. Hillary will be your nominee. I have stated this many times. Now continue to vote GOP lite if you wish.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. You won't last long here if you persist in a tactic of personal insult.
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:45 PM
May 2016

Looks like you're gathering more than enough rope....

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
35. That would be tragic
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:50 PM
May 2016

that I couldn't converse with those hell bent on moving us farther right.

Response to MADem (Reply #3)

creeksneakers2

(7,597 posts)
145. The process wasn't rigged
Sun May 15, 2016, 11:14 PM
May 2016

Bernie had plenty of chance to get his message out. He's gotten as much press as a non-front runner candidate could expect. He's had tons of money to advertise his message. There was nothing Schultz could have done about that if she tried, which she didn't.

Losers make up things like "it was rigged."

creeksneakers2

(7,597 posts)
161. I do
Mon May 16, 2016, 03:38 PM
May 2016

I also forgot to mention that there were about a dozen debates where Bernie had plenty of chance to get his message out.

Response to timmymoff (Reply #2)

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
50. No, just act like an adult. Disappointment happens. Be a grownup about it.
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:22 PM
May 2016

Stop pouting and threatening to take your toys and go home.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
52. Oh i'm not threatening dear friend.
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:26 PM
May 2016

I've already stated countless times presidential portion of my ballot will be left blank if Hillary is the nominee. I do not wish to be in cahoots with those who support the things she supports, the big money, the fracking, the TPP , keystone etc. I do not buy into her recent evolutions as easily as others. You can support who you wish, I myself know who I do not support and given the choice in November between a republican and a republican, like it looks currently, Ill leave that one blank. Enjoy. I have no moral obligation to perpetuation of bad policy.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
54. And guess what Timmy. No one will even notice. Sure she would like to have your vote.
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:32 PM
May 2016

But as a candidate, Hillary doesn't have time to kiss millions of Bernie's supporters behinds over millions of grievances they may have that date back over the past 30 years. Grow up Timmy. Lassie died. Get over it.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
58. No she doesn't, nor do we have to kiss hers
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:37 PM
May 2016

and we won't. Now be sure to remember this post when you are begging us later. Be sure to remember this when you blame us later. Be sure you remember this, be sure you own it, be sure you hold yourself accountable. Be sure you get out and help her win. I won't, even had to tell the democratic party chair of the County I won't be doing my duty as precinct committeeman in her favor. You , your ilk, and her are earning every bit of disdain. Just own the outcome and blame nobody but yourselves.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
60. The BS cheerleaders can all go crawl back under their rocks ... nobody is going to miss them n/t
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:50 PM
May 2016
 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
62. Until the begging starts
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:55 PM
May 2016

which is already daily. Hey, be proud, your candidate recently courted Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz donors. But she is a true democrat. She is very progressive. It's her turn and the GOP is there to help. Only in the Hillary bubble is this a good and noble thing.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
66. I couldn't care less about BS cheerleaders ... Sanders supporters on the other hand, I look forward
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:01 PM
May 2016

to their support in the General Election.

The BS cheerleaders (aka as BoB'ers) are just like the PUMAs of 2008. Those PUMAs also had their purity ball, their nominee and they were going to pout, cry and throw a big old temper tantrum if they didn't get what they wanted. And when Obama and his supporters didn't bow down to them, those PUMAs were going to take their vote and go home, because Obama was a "weak" candidate and he was going to lose to McCain.

In the end, those PUMAs ended up being immaterial and showed just how childish some supporters can be. You BS cheerleaders, you BorB'ers, will end up being just as immaterial, just as childish and just as forgotten 8 years from now ... while President Hillary Clinton will be finishing up her second term.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
67. If ever there has a been a post so wrong about so much it was yours.
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:14 PM
May 2016

I was for Hillary Clinton, then came Bernie Sanders into the mix. We got to learn you can have a campaign without huge money donors. Without support from big business, big pharma, wall st. lobbyists or as you guys call them, your allies. I guess the real statement here is I was for Hillary before I examined her record. I am a 50 year old man who voted democrat my whole life. I am also a precinct committeeman, I aid with fundraising events on the local level. I will no longer continue to do so, not because of sanders losing, but because what I've seen regarding this primary from the DNC. You may consider me irrelevant which is about as realistic as her record being irrelevant but it is your opinion. I never asked for your support nor concern. I have stated what I won't do. You can like it or not. I have no need for you or any of the other conservadems permission or acceptance. Nor do I seek it. as stated, get busy selling her, you won't have many of our help, and many of us are long time democratic party activists. Own it. I do.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
158. Another Unity Post for electoral karma
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:39 PM
May 2016
winning votes right here. Hill-Brock style. That takes skill. You represent your candidate well. Keep up the great work.

#fight4philly #takebackourparty
 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
76. I consider Hillary supporters Trump enablers
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:38 PM
May 2016

After all she loved his monetary donations. I wonder what influence that bought him? I am sure he will let us know.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
159. Right? She would know best.
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:43 PM
May 2016


Their kids are friends. They went to his wedding. They know each other from Bill's days in office. Trump's a foundation donor. It's hard to just ignore all the coziness going on there.
 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
40. LOL, the hard part is hill still losing states, terrible job of closing the deal, and a year ago....
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:54 PM
May 2016

72% of dems did not even know bernie.

She is a terrible candidate.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
63. News flash, she's already started the GENERAL ELECTION. Just because Sanders
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:57 PM
May 2016

decides to continue his fruitless attempts at relevance doesn't mean she can wait until June or the Convention to start preparing for November.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
107. It must get boring, sitting around on "first post in the Bernie thread" duty
Sun May 15, 2016, 05:08 PM
May 2016

is there an extra prize for getting in in the first minute?

I hope you have a tablet or phone. I'd hate to imagine anyone sitting at their desktop having to pee into a bucket.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
127. With that attitude you're going to need a lot of luck in Nov.
Sun May 15, 2016, 10:07 PM
May 2016

Liberals are not going to lift a finger of support....Yall burned the bridge.

creeksneakers2

(7,597 posts)
149. The fate of the country
Sun May 15, 2016, 11:24 PM
May 2016

shouldn't be decided by manners on a message board. Who would use that to decide? Think of the country, not yourself.

 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
162. This level of intelligence reminds me of why I wrote this post
Mon May 16, 2016, 03:50 PM
May 2016

"You lost-Get over it" Does this primary remind anyone else of election 2000?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511971034

I am getting very suspicious of the level of intelligence we are seeing in Hillary posters.

WE are the smart ones people- We don't just act stupid, repeat nonsense and think we made a point.

Some people have found their way to the wrong party.

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
84. You're right.
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:21 PM
May 2016

Here's an example:

FACT: Bernie lost weeks ago, when he ran out of any remotely viable "path to victory".

FICTION: BernieMath.

beaglelover

(4,087 posts)
7. She's already won the nomination. She will not care and won't acknowledge the losses if
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:24 PM
May 2016

she does in fact lose. Bernie is over. Stick a fork in him. He's done done done. We're just going through the motions now letting everyone vote in the primaries, but Hillary is the D nominee for POTUS!!!!!

JumpinJehosaphat

(22 posts)
79. You really believe this fight for a progressive alternative is over if HRC wins the nomination?
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:59 PM
May 2016

Bernie needs to keep fighting for every last vote! Every vote, every delegate earned continues the building of the organizational infrastructure needed to move the Democratic Party back to the progressive left traditions. Coronations tend to have the opposite effect.

 

coffeeAM

(180 posts)
8. When you have the entire establishment, media and massive wall street doantions behind you
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:25 PM
May 2016

I would say it is quite embarrassing you are still losing state after state by huge margins this late in the game.

StevieM

(10,541 posts)
14. Obama lost most of the final primaries as well. In the mean time Hillary still hasn't lost
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:28 PM
May 2016

either Kentucky or Oregon. Maybe she will lose them. But either way she is winning the overall contest, having gotten more votes and delegates than her opponent.

Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

OilemFirchen

(7,172 posts)
25. Not nearly as embarrassing as this:
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:43 PM
May 2016

Nearly $200 million raised. Hundreds of thousands of rally attendees. Internet domination. Kid-gloves media attention.

Loses to the most-hated woman in the world.

Ouch!

Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #25)

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
93. First candidate in history under FBI investigation and most hated in history among Dems.
Sun May 15, 2016, 04:27 PM
May 2016

A proud moment. You go girl.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
42. kid gloves media? How about almost none unless to mock - right, Maddow and Hayes?
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:56 PM
May 2016

Actually, I do hear more about Bernie on CNN and maybe that's why he's made such a remarkable race out of a foregone conclusion.

OilemFirchen

(7,172 posts)
44. There's a hyphen there for a reason.
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:01 PM
May 2016

"Kid gloves media" suggests an adolescent hit someone.

You Berniacs and your violent rhetoric. Tsk, tsk.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
95. Recently it has been shown that that whole Bernie Bro aggressive thing is a lie, it's actually
Sun May 15, 2016, 04:30 PM
May 2016

the Hillary supporters who people have found to be the more aggressive and obnoxious. Just what I have experienced. Especially all the smug and condescension. Ick!
The truth does come out eventually. It's starting to arrive.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
81. No one, and I mean NO ONE gets to the heart of the matter the way you do.
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:15 PM
May 2016

Well done, sir!! As usual.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
106. Again. The little old balding Jew from Brooklyn via Burlington is still standing despite
Sun May 15, 2016, 05:08 PM
May 2016

every effort of everyone backing HRC to beat him or shut him down. It may well be that the Superdelegates will not see that as troublesome but there you have it.

No matter what the Hillary supporters claim, Sanders has come light years further than anyone on the Establishment side thought was even possible. The lengthy list of advantages Secretary Clinton had going into this thing is well known and indisputable. The fact that she and her surrogates have proven unable to brush Sanders aside spells out just how weak a candidate she really is.

If she is the nominee all her Wall Street and neo-con allies can pray for is that Trump turns out to be as much of a buffoon as he appears to be. Otherwise we might well lose the Presidency, as has been the case most times one party has held that office for two terms.

And, the water is still rising.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
105. Stewart: "without the courage of her convictions — ‘cause I’m not even sure what they are"
Sun May 15, 2016, 05:06 PM
May 2016
“She reminds me of Magic Johnson’s talk show,” Mr. Stewart continued. “Magic Johnson was a charming individual, but he wasn’t a talk show host, and when you watched his show you could almost see Arsenio’s advice to him, in real time rendering, so he would sit and he would go, ‘Uh, my first guest tonight — Oh, Arsenio said, enthusiasm is something that’s sell is — my first guess tonight is Cher, everybody!’ But he never seemed authentic and real to his personality. It seemed like he was wearing an outfit designed by someone else for someone else to be someone else.”


Since you used the GIF from his show, thought I'd chime in here! Bye now.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
125. except democrats abroad, but ya, its a steep hill and narrow path! Go Bernie!
Sun May 15, 2016, 10:02 PM
May 2016

Also later in the game. More opportunities for supporters to register. It will be interesting.

Botany

(72,570 posts)
31. What do they call a student who finished last in med school?
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:48 PM
May 2016

Answer Doctor.

Hillary has won the nomination.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
96. No, she hasn't.
Sun May 15, 2016, 04:42 PM
May 2016

And please fix your "about" section. What little you've lifted, you've gotten wrong.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
38. Wins/losses have been too close to call "wins" in most cases. Discuss issues - not horse race.
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:53 PM
May 2016

Our country is very divided. Pretty evenly. So why not more discussion of issues over the horse race? In the end, the math is pretty unimportant. We will have a President that will or will not reflect the issues the majority of voters think important. Too many Clinton supporters do not or cannot discuss the issues. Why do you think she's the best? What will she do for us? That's all I want to know. But no HRC poster seems to be able to get through a thread without posting distractions.

oasis

(51,728 posts)
41. When the smoke clears, all Bernie will have is a bird in his hand.
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:55 PM
May 2016

So enjoy yourself while you can.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
43. While you enjoy the money transferring into Wall Street's hands.
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:00 PM
May 2016

I prefer birds, thank you. Actually, another difference between compassionate and just Sanders supporters and Clinton supporters. Four more years of status quo and then . . . a republican will return to office. How do I know? Because that is our recent history. Neither side does anything for the average family so we keep them all in office when it is their turns. I say "we" but I really mean "you."

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
55. The media will hardly cover it since Trump is not involved...
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:33 PM
May 2016

and they realize Hillary will be the nominee regardless.

jamese777

(546 posts)
56. In May & June of 2008
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:35 PM
May 2016

Barack Obama won primaries and caucuses in: North Carolina, Oregon and Montana.
Hillary Clinton won in Indiana, West Virginia, Kentucky, Puerto Rico and South Dakota and Obama and Clinton tied in Guam.
I don't think that Barack Obama was embarrassed that he was up against a tough and popular opponent who alot of people supported. He won the nomination.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
59. It kind of depends on how it is covered by the media. Many people I've talked to don't even realize
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:38 PM
May 2016

that Bernie is still in the race, because all they hear on the network nightly news is Trump v. Clinton.

I always forget that not everyone follows politics as closely as people who frequent DU.

Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Dem2

(8,178 posts)
82. Love election night
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:15 PM
May 2016

I love watching the results come in, it's the people in those states that get to decide who their choice is.

How can you hate that?

One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
86. I'm definitely looking forward to Tuesday
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:28 PM
May 2016


I think Bernie has good chances at winning both states, and yes, it will be very embarrassing for Hillary to lose again...just more evidence how weak a nominee she truly is...Sanders is the only way forward for progressives and the Democratic party, in my humble opinion.
 

coffeeAM

(180 posts)
90. Oh believe me, I cnnot wait for that thumping, but lets enjopy the buildup that started in Indiana!
Sun May 15, 2016, 02:49 PM
May 2016
 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
92. Maybe instead of calling her the "presumptive" nominee, it should be "presumptuous" nominee.
Sun May 15, 2016, 04:25 PM
May 2016

Just sayin' . . . . . . you know, if the shoe fits . . . .

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
100. Doesn't matter...if Bernie doesn't get 80% of the vote...he loses...
Sun May 15, 2016, 04:58 PM
May 2016

It's the math...always been the math

Response to coffeeAM (Original post)

Response to coffeeAM (Reply #116)

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
122. It's her turn and she has the Corporate media and the corporate DNC and Wall street
Sun May 15, 2016, 09:32 PM
May 2016

so .......

The COuntry is screwed and about to into total corporate domination
good luck

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
130. I think the MSM gets that this is just a formality now. I hardly saw anything on network news about
Sun May 15, 2016, 10:10 PM
May 2016

Sander's last couple of wins. They are far to focused on the Trump v. Clinton race, and don't seem to want anything to disrupt their storyline.

Besides, once again, unless Sanders wins by 40 or more points, the delegates will more or less evenly split when you take the supers into account. This always seems to be how they finish the 10 second blurb on Sander's wins. "Bernie Sanders won the West Virginia primary yesterday, but only netted 5 delegates, so this does nothing to stop the massive Clinton lead..."

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
137. She needs 143 delegates. Proportional dispensation of delegates will take her across the finish.
Sun May 15, 2016, 10:27 PM
May 2016

Sanders doesn't win even if he wins.

Sanders, however, will be deeply embarrassed even if he wins.
Because he has lost.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
153. His name is Barack Obama, President. Another question, how embarassing will it be for Sanders if he
Mon May 16, 2016, 09:10 AM
May 2016

doesn't win by 70%?

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