I'm taking a break from my break to give some of the reasons I'm having difficulty with everything.

[mmonk]

Things shouldn't be this hard for people of conscience.

[Doctor_J]

1. It is not that hard. It's just that a segment of the party has the conscience of republicans

And that segment also has the money and the media.

[onecaliberal]

2. ^^That^^

[laserhaas]

42. Sad state of affairs

[onecaliberal]

59. Indeed.

[bigtree]

3. nothing specific about what he's seeking to include in the platform on behalf of Hillary?

...just the smear of this decades-long, liberal Democrat?

FFS, this is the Sanders campaign in spades.

[JonLeibowitz]

4. *centrist Democrat

[Dem2]

9. Tags and name-calling

Always a formula for success.

[dchill]

52. Bank-owned real estate.

He's a short-sell.

[mmonk]

12. I'm not smearing anyone in particular.

Anything not factual?

[bigtree]

13. he works for a bank, therefore his work on the platform committee is corrupted

...before we even know what the proposals are and what influence he has on what.

This fits in with the rest of the innuendo used against Hillary. A smear. Don't expect me to give you a debate on it's merits. I'm not interested in fighting Sanders campaign nonsense any more. It's over, but I can see the desire here to continue the campaign into the convention.

Here's a clue. Convention platforms are pablum. You're tilting at windmills.

[mmonk]

15. Was Don Quixote the crazy one?

[bigtree]

21. he wasn't really crazy, just the townspeople's opinion of him

...cruel folks.

He was a rather tragic figure (almost heroic, in the most sympathetic view), although, he seemed to redeem himself as he progressed with his displays of valiance which seemed to strengthen him; albeit in vain. (I'm remembering this, so I'm not positive I'm relating it accurately.)

All 'tilting at windmills' really represents in the context I used it is attacking imaginary enemies.

[laserhaas]

45. I'm a contemporary Quixote ...and it sucks

But that duants me not ...from doing the battle

It is a civil war against despits like Frank , Hillary & Romney ...that must be fought..if we are to have any hope


https://shadowproof.com/2015/01/01/the-unending-etoys-com-bankruptcy/

[mmonk]

16. By the way, I'm a victim of your heroes.

Never expect them to be mine.

[bigtree]

17. you don't really know who my 'heroes' are

...and you can't make an informed judgement on that by my refusal to support Bernie Sanders as our nominee.

So many folks opposing Hillary here have created their own narrative and spend their political capital arguing against all of that.

Are we also 'victims' of Sanders' vote to deregulate derivatives?

[laserhaas]

46. Please enlighten me 'mmonk'

DM me...if needs be

[Armstead]

14. Barney Frank has been acting like a jerk towards Sanders and his supporters

He's always been a jerk, but at least he used to be a jerk to Republicans.

He's just a jerk.

[H2O Man]

5. Recommended.

I see you have a shadow! Ha!

[mmonk]

7. Where there is sunlight.

Thanks!

[H2O Man]

10. It's too funny!

[bigtree]

8. god forbid

...anyone express a different perspective on our Democratic discussion board.

So, you popped up on this thread trolling a poster, to complain about trolling?

[H2O Man]

20. Had I seen

that, I would certainly have spoken up. I know you as a good and decent person, who I consider a real friend.

[mmonk]

24. Who are you talking about?

[H2O Man]

48. I note that he

denies what you have stated here. I think that you need to supply proof, or delete your post.

[H2O Man]

55. Please provide evidence.

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. People who speak to power

Tend to develop it.

[H2O Man]

28. True!

[Uncle Joe]

6. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, mmonk.

[mmonk]

11. You're quite welcome as always.

[mmonk]

25. What in the hell are you talking about?

[NorthCarolina]

22. Those that support the corporate agenda have no conscience, just personal greed. -nt-

[dana_b]

23. People of conscience

which I think the Democratic party is sorely lacking. After Nevada, all of the voter supporession/election fraud, the way that they continually either change the rules to fit their narrative or suppress the rights of others (see Nevada), I don't think the Democratic party can be called the party with a conscience anymore.

[mmonk]

56. Great post and thanks. The party has developed a coldness or indifference.

[leftynyc]

26. You mean the first time you posted this today

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511979617

didn't get the attention you thought it deserved? Are you waiting for the begging to stay?

[mmonk]

30. This post preceded that one.

I came back to look at a post my son told me to look at. Then I saw an accusation in this thread. I'm trying to figure out where it came from. You people are losing your minds.

[leftynyc]

31. So either way

you felt the need to post TWICE about how you just HAD to leave. Whatever.

[mmonk]

32. I was going to but why in the hell should I let a false accusation stand?

[laserhaas]

47. It is a catch 22...damned if you do...damned if you don't

Hang in there...and let no nay say wreck your day

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. I see the bat signal went off

They can be adorable.

[mmonk]

33. It damn sure did. Can't even exit gracefully to get out of this food fight.

[nadinbrzezinski]

35. Door is open, do it

[mmonk]

39. Not until I deal with what I'm seeing.

Been here since 2003. I will not be smeared.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. I am just too damn stubborn

Please keep in contact.

[mmonk]

41. I certainly will. I've always enjoyed your posts.

[jpmonk91]

34. Please stop bullying my dad

mmonk is my dad. He has been here since the beginning and is a loyal progressive. We can all have a rational discussion about the issues.

[nadinbrzezinski]

36. You got the wrong person kid

Talk to your dad

[jpmonk91]

37. I was talking about

The other stuff from some posters

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. Trust me I know

I have had to deal with these lovely bullies for over ten long years

[jpmonk91]

43. That sucks

What did they bully you on? Just curious

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. Well the last

Apparently news to me, I am not an immigrant who grew up in Mexico City, or a Latina or Jew.

That is just the last one. Ohio is a great state to grow up at. At this point I just laugh at the bullies.

[laserhaas]

49. I war with them

[jpmonk91]

50. I laugh at them as well

Nice to meet you btw. I'm John Monk the Bernie movement and H20 man got me to get involved more heavily in the political process.

[nadinbrzezinski]

51. Keep some of your hope alive

It is too easy to lose it. This is for the long haul

[jpmonk91]

53. I totally agree

It is nice to meet you

[lapfog_1]

57. if you all leave... I'm outta here too.

been here for a long time... since 2004.

Dealt with the bullshit when the 2008 election rolled around.

Don't feel like dealing with it again

[nadinbrzezinski]

58. OH I am to stubborn to leave

But I am using them smileys far more often