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Mon May 16, 2016, 05:19 PM

 

Will the parties change to closed primaries for 2020

I am a big proponent of closed primaries--- you should only be allowed to vote in your party's primary if you are a registered Democrat or a registered Republican. Given 2016 do you think the parties will move to closed primaries?

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Reply Will the parties change to closed primaries for 2020 (Original post)
Txbluedog May 2016 OP
nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #1
Txbluedog May 2016 #3
apcalc May 2016 #2
Txbluedog May 2016 #5
Fresh_Start May 2016 #8
Ohioblue22 May 2016 #4
Ferd Berfel May 2016 #6
Txbluedog May 2016 #7
LonePirate May 2016 #9
NV Whino May 2016 #10
sadoldgirl May 2016 #11
Skink May 2016 #12
Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #17
Sheepshank May 2016 #13
morningfog May 2016 #14
Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #15
pampango May 2016 #16
NorthCarolina May 2016 #18
Jitter65 May 2016 #19

Response to Txbluedog (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:20 PM

1. And I am a big proponent for state parties to pay for the whole kit and kaboodle in that case

 

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #1)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:21 PM

3. That's fair

 

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Response to Txbluedog (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:20 PM

2. Get rid of the ridiculous caucuses......

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Response to apcalc (Reply #2)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:22 PM

5. Please explain

 

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Response to apcalc (Reply #2)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:29 PM

8. I don't think you can force individual states to give up caucuses....

I just think the caucus states should be later in the process...after all the primary states are completed.

The big primary states shouldn't be at the end of the process...they should be early in the process

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Response to Txbluedog (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:21 PM

4. Of course they should. We don't need operation chaos in every election

 

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Response to Txbluedog (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:22 PM

6. I have to wonder if it will matter by then



We're headed for some thing new and very different (and ugly) than what we've had in the past.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Reply #6)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:23 PM

7. Change takes time

 

I doubt that much change will be achieved in 4 years

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Response to Txbluedog (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:30 PM

9. It will not matter for the party of the incumbent President.

And no one cares about this topic within Republican primaries.

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Response to Txbluedog (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:32 PM

10. The question is, will the parties change to open primaries for 2020?

I'm a big proponent of open primaries. And we need to eliminate caucuses. They disenfranchise many of the elderly and disabled.

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Response to Txbluedog (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:33 PM

11. You will need open primaries then,

because the legislature of the state implement
primaries and PAY for them with tax money.

In 09, right after the big recession my state switched
back to caucuses, because the primaries were too
expensive. So these were closed caucuses.

After this years debacle the legislature debated to
go back to primaries, but could not agree on open vs
closed.

I expect - with petitions circulating already - that we
will find that question on the ballot in November. Good,
let the people decide.

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Response to Txbluedog (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:39 PM

12. Once they close everything the Green Party will out number each party

They should gain automatic ballot access this time around.

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Response to Skink (Reply #12)

Mon May 16, 2016, 06:13 PM

17. In California, the Green Party's primary is closed. Only Green Party Members allowed.

No Party Preference Information
The following three parties notified the Secretary of State that they have chosen not to allow NPP voters to request their party’s presidential ballot participate in their presidential primary election:

Republican
Green
Peace & Freedom

So I doubt they will be the largest party.

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Response to Txbluedog (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:40 PM

13. I can only hope. n/t

 

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Response to Txbluedog (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:40 PM

14. Nix caucuses and super delegates. All semi-open primaries.

 

Dems and unaffiliated voters permitted, same day voters registration.

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Response to Txbluedog (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 06:04 PM

15. No I don't.

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Response to Txbluedog (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 06:11 PM

16. We should go to 2-stage presidential elections like many countries have.

Stage 1 in October would - this year - pit Trump, Clinton, Sanders and anyone else against each other.

The top 2 in the first round then stage 1 then face off in the election in November. If you candidate finishes third in the first stage, too bad. You had your chance.

Everyone can vote in both stages - the ultimate open primary. France does it this way as do many other countries.

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Response to Txbluedog (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 06:19 PM

18. Of course they will do that, in fact I predicted it

 

a couple weeks ago somewhere on this very site. The establishment wins when there are closed primaries. That has been quite obvious to everyone this primary season, and a point I am sure not missed by the neocons. You would have to be sans brain to not have seen this coming.

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Response to Txbluedog (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 07:48 PM

19. They ought to. If Independents want a third party, go for it! nt

 

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