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Has Bernie made any statement or comments about the violence at the Nevada Convention? (Original Post) Arkansas Granny May 2016 OP
He sanctioned his attorneys to file charges, according to Nina Turner. ViseGrip May 2016 #1
Yes, his campaign has Duckhunter935 May 2016 #2
Do you have a link? Arkansas Granny May 2016 #4
I am on my phone but I have seen Duckhunter935 May 2016 #11
He has stated... He was cheated, picked on, abused on so many states he lost. This one, silence. Why seabeyond May 2016 #3
I believe all they said was it's "unfortunate", while still insinuating they were cheated against. CrowCityDem May 2016 #5
There was no violence ibegurpard May 2016 #6
ya it is pinebox May 2016 #7
So, this didn't happen? Arkansas Granny May 2016 #10
Is there a video? Duckhunter935 May 2016 #12
There are recording of the threats, and those were violent. Agschmid May 2016 #17
So threats were made ibegurpard May 2016 #19
Threats are violence just FYI. Agschmid May 2016 #20
I expect you to link the stories to charges filed ibegurpard May 2016 #21
I expect you to speak out against threats of violence. Agschmid May 2016 #22
threats of violence are not violence ibegurpard May 2016 #23
They are called terroristic threatening. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #26
Terroristic? Stop making deliberatly false comments like that. JimDandy May 2016 #31
It's hardly a false statement. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #32
No. It is NOT applicable in this situation where a threat is made against a singular person JimDandy May 2016 #34
Let's get a couple of things straight. Yes, I am supporting Hillary, but I have not posted a single Arkansas Granny May 2016 #35
Yes it is a false statement. Lange lives in Nevada, not Arkansas. The FBI's definition applies to JimDandy May 2016 #36
Yes they are. Agschmid May 2016 #25
Who said threats were OK? ibegurpard May 2016 #33
BS campaign about to sue NV? Iliyah May 2016 #8
Got a video of this so called "violence" pinebox May 2016 #9
In all the dozens of videos I have found on the net, not 1 depicts any violence JimDandy May 2016 #38
Here is violence at a convention. hobbit709 May 2016 #13
This is 2016, not 1968. I'm specifically asking if Bernie has made a statement about what Arkansas Granny May 2016 #14
That was actual violence shown. Is there any actual violence in NV? hobbit709 May 2016 #15
some alleged thrown chairs... ibegurpard May 2016 #16
you're ruining it! ibegurpard May 2016 #18
+1000 Silver_Witch May 2016 #30
Bernie is not gonna make statements based on hypothetical evidence d_legendary1 May 2016 #24
Does he have to provide a running commentary on everything? Gavile May 2016 #27
Weaver has spent months building to this. NCTraveler May 2016 #28
No he has not! Silver_Witch May 2016 #29
The "violence" is a man raising a chair but he was stopped by Bernie Supporters... davidlynch May 2016 #37
 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
1. He sanctioned his attorneys to file charges, according to Nina Turner.
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:30 AM
May 2016

That is what you do. What's to say? The lawyers need to get the facts first. Bernie is very cool headed, methodical. Just like a President should be!

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
3. He has stated... He was cheated, picked on, abused on so many states he lost. This one, silence. Why
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:32 AM
May 2016

Why on this, is he not jumping on the band wagon claiming he is being picked on. So what he goes for.

He is silent because he knows he has a hand in it. He knows he helped to create this. He KNOWS it is wrong in every way and he is keeping himself apart from it to not taint himself.

My theory.

Arkansas Granny

(31,507 posts)
10. So, this didn't happen?
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:40 AM
May 2016

The allegation is the latest fallout from a divisive Nevada Democratic convention that had to be shut down because security at the Paris Las Vegas hotel could no longer ensure order on Saturday night. The gathering closed with some Sanders supporters throwing chairs; later, some made death threats against state party chairwoman Roberta Lange.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nevada-democrats-sanders-campaign-has-violent-streak/ar-BBt7RbU

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
17. There are recording of the threats, and those were violent.
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:52 AM
May 2016

One guy even left a call back number...

Good lord.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
19. So threats were made
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:57 AM
May 2016

Which will be investigated surely... but you've got nothing on the alleged "violence"...
Sounds like propaganda to me.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
20. Threats are violence just FYI.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:01 AM
May 2016

Sure it isn't physical, but it's certainly emotional violence.

This event won't change the outcome of the primary, but it certainly isn't a bright spot in history.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
22. I expect you to speak out against threats of violence.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:10 AM
May 2016

I guess I expect too much.

MALE CALLER: Hi Roberta Lange. This is a citizen of the United States of America and I just wanted to let you know that I think people like you should be hung in a public execution to show this world that we won’t stand for this sort of corruption. I don’t know what kind of money they are paying to you, but I don’t know how you sleep at night. You are a sick, twisted piece of shit and I hope you burn for this! You can return my call at ***-***-****. I’d love to go into further detail with you about this, though I am sure you don’t have courage to do so. You cowardless bitch, running off the stage! I hope people find you.


That's violence.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
23. threats of violence are not violence
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:13 AM
May 2016

My speaking out against them do not make them so. I assume these threats will be investigated and dealt with appropriately as they should.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
31. Terroristic? Stop making deliberatly false comments like that.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:47 AM
May 2016

By the way, you can just own that absolute mockery of democracy called the NV State Democratic Convention since you and all the other HillBill supporters have not decried the unprecedented shenanigans that Clinton, Reid, Lange and others cooked up and pulled there. BRAVO for you!

Arkansas Granny

(31,507 posts)
32. It's hardly a false statement.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:57 AM
May 2016
Several U.S. states have enacted statutes which impose criminal liability for terroristic threatening or making a terroristic threat.[1] "A terroristic threat is a threat to commit a crime of violence or a threat to cause bodily injury to another person and terrorization as the result of the proscribed conduct."[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terroristic_threat


It is taken quite seriously in Arkansas, where I live.

http://law.justia.com/codes/arkansas/2010/title-5/subtitle-2/chapter-13/subchapter-3/5-13-301

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
34. No. It is NOT applicable in this situation where a threat is made against a singular person
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:13 PM
May 2016

without an explicit/implied threat against a population of people.

You don't get to use words that have specific meanings, simply to smear Sanders Supporters because you're mad Sanders is still in the race opposing YOUR candidate.

https://m.fbi.gov/#https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/terrorism/terrorism-definition

Arkansas Granny

(31,507 posts)
35. Let's get a couple of things straight. Yes, I am supporting Hillary, but I have not posted a single
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:38 PM
May 2016

negative statement about Bernie. If he were to win the nomination, I would vote for him in the GE. If he wants to stay in the race until the convention, that is his decision. I have made no calls for him to drop out.

With that in mind, I would like to know his positions on various issues, including his reaction to the behavior of his supporters. I don't know how you would inflate that to a smear, but then I don't know you at all. You are free to draw your own conclusions.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
36. Yes it is a false statement. Lange lives in Nevada, not Arkansas. The FBI's definition applies to
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:43 PM
May 2016

her case, not YOUR state law.

The definition of terrorizing has always included the requirement that it involve violence/possbility of violence to a larger population. If it didn't, there would be no difference between terrorism and a run of the mill threat or act of violence.

By the way, your link to Akansas' statutes does not provide the definition of "terrorizing". You need the definition's section of that statute to establish credibility for even that part of your post.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
25. Yes they are.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:20 AM
May 2016

Everyday here on MIRT we ban DTG here at DU, and we do it because threats of violence are *NOT OKAY*.

But hey if death threats are okay maybe we should just let him/her/it in.

Sorry... I've got better standards than to allow that to stand unchecked.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
33. Who said threats were OK?
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:03 PM
May 2016

Because I said your false equivalence between threats and actual violence are bullshit you think I am OK with threats? I said they needed to be investigated and dealt with as all threats do but they are NOT actual violence.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
9. Got a video of this so called "violence"
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:39 AM
May 2016

Everybody has a smartphone these days so I'm sure there must be some video evidence somewhere.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
38. In all the dozens of videos I have found on the net, not 1 depicts any violence
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:40 PM
May 2016

nor chairs being thrown around. And the convention was filmed, from start to finish even, by one reporter.

I would label this as a false claim at this point.

Arkansas Granny

(31,507 posts)
14. This is 2016, not 1968. I'm specifically asking if Bernie has made a statement about what
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:49 AM
May 2016

took place in Nevada this past weekend.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
18. you're ruining it!
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:55 AM
May 2016

There's pearl - clutching to be done.
(Alleged thrown chairs is not "violence." And any death threats need to be taken seriously and investigated thoroughly.)

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
24. Bernie is not gonna make statements based on hypothetical evidence
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:13 AM
May 2016

coming from Brock's ass. BTW has HRC said anything about Wendell Pierce?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
28. Weaver has spent months building to this.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:26 AM
May 2016

Sanders has no control, he is following Weaver. Sanders will comment on it only if Weaver gives him permission.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
29. No he has not!
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:27 AM
May 2016

He is probably investigating beforemaking a statement you know seeking facts and such! Why do you ask? Oh cause the media won't cover it anyway! Good point!

davidlynch

(644 posts)
37. The "violence" is a man raising a chair but he was stopped by Bernie Supporters...
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:47 PM
May 2016

and hugged. They literally "hugged him down" from the event. He was just so frustrated at the injustice, of Roberta Lange's intentionally ignoring the dissenting (majority) voice votes, and he acted out. That wasn't right, but his act is understandable given the broader context.

Aren't Hillary supporters, by characterizing this man's act as "violence" tacitly condoning Roberta Lange's strong-arm tactics?

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