Tue May 17, 2016, 03:56 PM
Joob (1,065 posts)
Really? A Hillary supporter ACTUALLY PUNCHES a woman, and Bernie Sanders supporters are violent
Where's the violence? Did a Bernie supporter Punch a Woman? No.
There was rude angry voters? Uh yeah.Tends to happen when things aren't democratic in our free country. Violence? No.
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Joob | May 2016 | OP |
msongs | May 2016 | #1 | |
Joob | May 2016 | #2 | |
Ken Burch | May 2016 | #3 | |
anotherproletariat | May 2016 | #4 | |
Joob | May 2016 | #5 | |
auntpurl | May 2016 | #7 | |
Joob | May 2016 | #8 | |
auntpurl | May 2016 | #9 | |
Joob | May 2016 | #17 | |
coco77 | May 2016 | #36 | |
winter is coming | May 2016 | #22 | |
Bradical79 | May 2016 | #25 | |
hellofromreddit | May 2016 | #15 | |
kiva | May 2016 | #11 | |
anotherproletariat | May 2016 | #14 | |
kiva | May 2016 | #21 | |
Bradical79 | May 2016 | #26 | |
NWCorona | May 2016 | #18 | |
Warren DeMontague | May 2016 | #6 | |
JaneyVee | May 2016 | #10 | |
ContinentalOp | May 2016 | #12 | |
DookDook | May 2016 | #19 | |
JCanete | May 2016 | #13 | |
B Calm | May 2016 | #16 | |
NWCorona | May 2016 | #20 | |
auntpurl | May 2016 | #23 | |
Post removed | May 2016 | #24 | |
Bradical79 | May 2016 | #27 | |
NuclearDem | May 2016 | #29 | |
Bradical79 | May 2016 | #31 | |
NuclearDem | May 2016 | #32 | |
Bradical79 | May 2016 | #33 | |
NuclearDem | May 2016 | #34 | |
k8conant | May 2016 | #28 | |
kiva | May 2016 | #30 | |
NWCorona | May 2016 | #37 | |
coco77 | May 2016 | #35 |
Response to Joob (Original post)
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:59 PM
msongs (65,210 posts)
1. "when things arent democratic"? you really believe a 3 million vote lead is nothing but fraud? nt
Response to msongs (Reply #1)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:02 PM
Joob (1,065 posts)
2. What are you talking about? What does that have to do with anything when millions haven't voted yet?
And duh-doyy, this is about the NV Convention. Obviously.
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Response to msongs (Reply #1)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:05 PM
Ken Burch (50,254 posts)
3. There was no 3 million vote lead in Nevada.
Why DO you hate the progressive candidate and his supporters, btw? If he hadn't run, your candidate would still be 100% DLC/Third Way/Blue Dog on the issues...and we don't ever need to nominate someone who'd be that far to the right again.
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Response to Joob (Original post)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:08 PM
anotherproletariat (1,446 posts)
4. As a statistician, your argument makes no sense.
Even if we were to just look at these two incidences, and use total numbers of votes for Clinton and Sanders...then find the percentage of aggressive/violent people (one person on the Clinton side, and several hundred on the Sanders), you would see why more attention is being paid to the Nevada story. Just because a thrown chair didn't hurt anyone does not make it less of a violent act.
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Response to anotherproletariat (Reply #4)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:12 PM
Joob (1,065 posts)
5. ONE thrown chair, that no one saw up front, or HAS evidence of. Beats ONE punched woman. Great stats
You must be good.
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Response to anotherproletariat (Reply #4)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:16 PM
auntpurl (4,311 posts)
7. Also, the Bernie violence happened at a political meeting.
The actor punching the woman (which is a horrible act and he should have been arrested, which he was) was between two private citizens.
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Response to auntpurl (Reply #7)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:22 PM
Joob (1,065 posts)
8. What violence? A possible yet not verified thrown chair?
vi·o·lence
ˈv? ![]() ![]() noun behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something. synonyms: brutality, brute force, ferocity, savagery, cruelty, sadism, barbarity, brutishness More strength of emotion or an unpleasant or destructive natural force. "the violence of her own feelings" synonyms: intensity, severity, strength, force, vehemence, power, potency, fervency, ferocity, fury, fire "the violence of his passion" LAW the unlawful exercise of physical force or intimidation by the exhibition of such force. I only see a violent attack on our Democracy. A voice vote denied. And a Democratic process Dictated |
Response to Joob (Reply #8)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:26 PM
auntpurl (4,311 posts)
9. So, the NY Times, Rolling Stone, and AP are all lying.
Ok.
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Response to auntpurl (Reply #9)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:56 PM
Joob (1,065 posts)
17. It's sad when people focus on a possible thrown chair, when democracy was thrown out the window
in that convention. No, I'd say people DENY it. Yet, there's video evidence. I don't care if it was Hillary supporters that got denied I would still be outraged! I wouldn't stand for it! A voice vote shut down, Democracy used as a Dictatorship. If you guys had the voice vote but it was ignored, and you couldn't contest it. I don't care who the supporters were because that's an assault on what I and many others have fought for. An assault on our freedom and Democracy.
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Response to Joob (Reply #17)
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:54 PM
coco77 (1,327 posts)
36. Did the media cover this..
we are hearing Bernie supporters are violent I have heard nothing on this..
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Response to auntpurl (Reply #9)
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:02 PM
winter is coming (11,785 posts)
22. They are all repeating what Ralston said.
That makes them credulous, not liars.
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Response to auntpurl (Reply #9)
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:19 PM
Bradical79 (4,490 posts)
25. No, they're just lazy
Everyone just ran with what one guy wrote without verifying sources. Not the first time it has happened, and won't be the last. The whole thing was recorded and multiple eyewitnesses said no chair was thrown that they could tell.
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Response to Joob (Reply #8)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:48 PM
hellofromreddit (1,182 posts)
15. Here's the infamous "chair throw"
Response to anotherproletariat (Reply #4)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:29 PM
kiva (4,373 posts)
11. Show me proof that any chairs were thrown.
Can't? Then what are you left with? A bunch of people shouting bad words?
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Response to kiva (Reply #11)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:46 PM
anotherproletariat (1,446 posts)
14. Are you saying that all the people in the room, including media are lying?
Does everyone hate poor little old Bernie that much?
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Response to anotherproletariat (Reply #14)
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:21 PM
Bradical79 (4,490 posts)
26. What people?
Everything seems to goes back to one man, and looks like someone posted a video of the incident showing it didn't happen.
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Response to anotherproletariat (Reply #4)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:57 PM
NWCorona (8,541 posts)
18. Your argument makes no sense.
A better variable would be to use the rally attendance totals as that's when the likelihood of acts of violence would happen.
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Response to Joob (Original post)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:15 PM
Warren DeMontague (80,708 posts)
6. Thats different.
Because, reasons.
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Response to Joob (Original post)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:27 PM
JaneyVee (19,877 posts)
10. Have you checked every Bernie supporter in America?
No? Then WTF are you even talking about?
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Response to Joob (Original post)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:30 PM
ContinentalOp (5,356 posts)
12. Yeah but The Wire though
Response to ContinentalOp (Reply #12)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:58 PM
DookDook (166 posts)
19. And Treme. I loved Treme.
Response to Joob (Original post)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:45 PM
JCanete (5,272 posts)
13. Bernie supporter here, but has this been confirmed? Arrested for is not the same thing.
Yes, it's stooping pretty low of Hillary supporters to get behind any expected efforts by the Hillary campaign and the rest of the establishment to paint Bernie supporters as violent, and I think people should start taking a hard look at themselves and the lengths they are willing to go to vilify the other candidate with hearsay and anecdotal evidence to prop up theirs. But I'm going to reserve judgement on this one until Wendel Pierce is found guilty.
For that matter, once he has(assuming it goes that way), it may be fair to bring up in counter to broad brush claims about Bernie supporters, but unless to point out hypocrisy(as this op does) I for one won't be dredging it up to characterize Hillary supporters at large. It doesn't represent them any more than any single or curated sample group represents Bernie supporters. |
Response to Joob (Original post)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:52 PM
B Calm (28,762 posts)
16. You talking about this guy?
Response to B Calm (Reply #16)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:59 PM
NWCorona (8,541 posts)
20. At least nobody here is defending him.
Response to NWCorona (Reply #20)
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Response to Post removed (Reply #24)
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:23 PM
Bradical79 (4,490 posts)
27. Now you are just flat out lying -nt
Response to Bradical79 (Reply #27)
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:32 PM
NuclearDem (16,184 posts)
29. Hardly.
DU's Sanders supporters have made an absolutely shameful display the last few days. Justifying, defending, and excusing death threats against the NV party chair (hell, an OP with quite a few recs published her private fucking phone number), justifying and excusing the abuse thrown at Senator Boxer, and once again blaming the party for their own damned misbehavior.
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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #29)
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:42 PM
Bradical79 (4,490 posts)
31. I really don't know how to respond to someone as agressively dishonest as you
There were no riots or a bunch of people excusing death threats. You're just being intentionally dishonest to stir up shit.
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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #31)
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:44 PM
NuclearDem (16,184 posts)
32. Well, that's fitting, because I don't know how to respond to someone
as divorced from reality as you.
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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #32)
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:46 PM
Bradical79 (4,490 posts)
33. Just keep lying aparently
Seems to be your mo. It's pretty obvious you lack any kind of honesty or integrity. Have fun helping Trump get elected, I guess.
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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #33)
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:47 PM
NuclearDem (16,184 posts)
34. Coming from the campaign that wouldn't know honesty or integrity if it bit them
I'll take that as a compliment.
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Response to Post removed (Reply #24)
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:29 PM
k8conant (3,010 posts)
28. Yeah, sure, except they don't exist...
Response to kiva (Reply #30)
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:57 PM
NWCorona (8,541 posts)
37. Umm, well only a few are....
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Response to Joob (Original post)
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:49 PM
coco77 (1,327 posts)
35. Mayor Nutter says..
Bernie better shut this thing down. WTF does that mean.
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